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Old Apr 15, 2013, 08:29 PM   #1
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No major caveats for basic Keynote presentations with iPad + VGA adapter?

So it seems I'll be making weekly presentations for class for the rest of April and May, and since I've been making presentations with Keynote on OS X, I figure I'd give it a shot with the iPad and its version of Keynote along with the VGA adapter.

Now, after looking around, I realize that Keynote for iOS isn't as full-fledged compared to OS X, but that doesn't bother me very much as I am not one for fancy templates or animations. Even so, are there any caveats I should be aware of before splurging for a VGA adapter and Keynote for iOS?
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Old Apr 15, 2013, 08:37 PM   #2
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no caveats....works well...training is my profession and my trusty Epson powerlite and both my ipad mini, and Ipad 2, 3 and now a 4 make 400 Keynote presentations a year...but no real clicker remote avail...

actually I would rather use Keynote IOS than mac keynote anytime....
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Old Apr 15, 2013, 08:39 PM   #3
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no caveats....works well...training is my profession and my trusty Epson powerlite and both my ipad mini, and Ipad 2, 3 and now a 4 make 400 Keynote presentations a year...but no real clicker remote avail...
Right, I noticed that as well, but it doesn't seem to be a huge dealbreaker.

Though it means I can't wander too much anymore

EDIT: That makes me wonder, since you do so many presentations a year, how have the VGA adapters stood? Good build quality?
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Old Apr 17, 2013, 10:01 PM   #4
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Right, I noticed that as well, but it doesn't seem to be a huge dealbreaker.

Though it means I can't wander too much anymore

EDIT: That makes me wonder, since you do so many presentations a year, how have the VGA adapters stood? Good build quality?
fine.......but an apple TV hooked to your projector will make the ipad wireless for walking around....
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Old May 14, 2013, 03:39 AM   #5
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fine.......but an apple TV hooked to your projector will make the ipad wireless for walking around....
Just don't forget AirPlay can have a truly detrimental effect on your image quality (compression artefacts, lag, low framerate when playing animations etc).
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Old May 15, 2013, 07:15 PM   #6
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Just don't forget AirPlay can have a truly detrimental effect on your image quality (compression artefacts, lag, low framerate when playing animations etc).
it plays all my animations and 720p business videos fine thru airplay - no stutter or any other defects - most of us are using keynote for business presentations, and for this it works perfectly.
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it plays all my animations and 720p business videos fine thru airplay - no stutter or any other defects - most of us are using keynote for business presentations, and for this it works perfectly.
Sorry, I should have been more specific. What I meant was embedded videos, not plain PP / Keynote animations.

Unfortunately, it's very hard to make Keynote play embedded videos natively on an ATV, which does result in framedrops (but, at least, reduced framerate), compression artifacts etc. By default, they're played back embedded only, which also results in sub-par quality.

(For more info: I've explained this in length at http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=17300068 , my just-published article on everything Keynote + TV output.)
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Old May 22, 2013, 08:06 AM   #8
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Sorry, I should have been more specific. What I meant was embedded videos, not plain PP / Keynote animations.

Unfortunately, it's very hard to make Keynote play embedded videos natively on an ATV, which does result in framedrops (but, at least, reduced framerate), compression artifacts etc. By default, they're played back embedded only, which also results in sub-par quality.

(For more info: I've explained this in length at http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=17300068 , my just-published article on everything Keynote + TV output.)
I'm not up on the technicalities, I'm just a business user...but if you mean I have a slide that has a movie in it, it plays that fine...
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...but no real clicker remote avail...
http://www.satechi.net/index.php/new...-smart-pointer
my review of it: http://www.pocketables.com/2013/02/a...d-windows.html
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I'm not up on the technicalities, I'm just a business user...but if you mean I have a slide that has a movie in it, it plays that fine...
With several kinds of videos (hi-res, normal/high-framerate) decoding done by the ATV results in a far superior quality.

With low(er)-resolution / -framerate videos the difference isn't this visible.
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Old May 22, 2013, 03:41 PM   #11
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Thank you! You have solved a problem I have been waiting for since the iPad1....literally...
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Old May 28, 2013, 03:45 AM   #12
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So it seems I'll be making weekly presentations for class for the rest of April and May, and since I've been making presentations with Keynote on OS X, I figure I'd give it a shot with the iPad and its version of Keynote along with the VGA adapter.

Now, after looking around, I realize that Keynote for iOS isn't as full-fledged compared to OS X, but that doesn't bother me very much as I am not one for fancy templates or animations. Even so, are there any caveats I should be aware of before splurging for a VGA adapter and Keynote for iOS?
The main caveat is the MS PP bug I've described in Chapter "2. Problems With Microsoft Office Files" at http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=17321186

It only applies to any kind of (even desktop-converted) Microsoft PowerPoint input. If you create all your presentations in Keynote (on either OS X or the iDevice itself), you won't be faced this problem at all. If, however, you in any way use Microsoft PowerPoint, the effective output resolution will be absolutely awful.
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Old May 30, 2013, 06:20 AM   #13
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it plays all my animations and 720p business videos fine thru airplay - no stutter or any other defects - most of us are using keynote for business presentations, and for this it works perfectly.
Would you tell me about this setup.
Does this need wireless router and both Apple TV and iPad connecting to same network or is it just two device ( Apple TV and iPad ) doing the show.
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Would you tell me about this setup.
Does this need wireless router and both Apple TV and iPad connecting to same network or is it just two device ( Apple TV and iPad ) doing the show.
You need the airplay router....plus Apple TV...
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