The exact point I started off with. We still get great OpenCL and OpenGL performance, and if gaming is your priority, why are you buying a mac?
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The exact point I started off with. We still get great OpenCL and OpenGL performance, and if gaming is your priority, why are you buying a mac?
as i have mentioned, those numbers can be artificially jacked up to make it look better and realistic at the same time.
always take those reviews with a grain of salt.
i think you might be right, windows gaming laptop vendors actually went for the HD4600 quads rather than HD5200
i'm not a gamer, and i'm upset mainly because i use it for rendering tasks other than gaming.
Read those charts again.
OpenCL performance is up.
But OpenGL performance (read: gaming) is DOWN. Waaaaaayyyyyy down.
Reminds me when - back in the days - I bought a white Macbook right when they switched to the unibody white enclosure. I received a similar email before it was even announced. A couple days later it showed up online. I immediately thought I was gonna return it upon delivery but to my surprise, I had been upgraded to the unibody one. I think the timeline is quite interesting re: 7/23 and the speculation around a potential announcement the day of/right after the earnings report. Food for thoughts.
I guess that there are a lot of casual gamers that don't want to maintain a dedicated gaming machine in addition to a good mobile laptop. For those, loosing the dGPU would be a big loss, essentially forcing them to buy last years model.
In my case, I have a 2011 15'' model, so a better GPU might be an incentive to upgrade. On the other hand, if the dGPU goes away, I might consider a 13'' Air + an iMac instead. I'm not sure though if I want to miss out on the retina screen.
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Photoshop ? Illustrator ?
Yes, I want to know what this means for Photoshop and Illustrator as well. I mean with the potential loss of dGPU but with the varied performance gains of the iris pro.
I know. I try to ignore it myself. But that's exactly how it worked for me before. The anxiety level is high at this point. Ridiculous, we're fantasizing about a computer guys.
I know. I try to ignore it myself. But that's exactly how it worked for me before. The anxiety level is high at this point. Ridiculous, we're fantasizing about a computer guys.
Pretty much, but hey, boredom at work frees the mind
But (if we talk 3D renderers) 9/10 of all renderers use CPU and not GPU
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It would probably be faster than with 650.
Iris Pro uses much faster edram, so OpenCL would definitely benefit from that.
its not highest resolution laptop screen on the market
there is FUJITSU UH90 with 3200x1800 IGZO panel you can buy it now in japan
and its all iGPU
But (if we talk 3D renderers) 9/10 of all renderers use CPU and not GPU
huh? it depends i think ... if the software uses more parallel computing then its GPU , otherwise its CPU ( couldn't remember what is it called )
Hello guys !
This if my first post on MacRumors but i read all your messages since a year.
I am running a MBP Santa Rosa (2,2Ghz C2D, 2007) as my only machine so you might understand how eager I am to play around with an Haswell MBPr or MBA.
I am still undecided between MBA 13", MBPr 13" or MBPr15" but i think i am not the only one in this case.
About the debate "dGPU or not dGPU", I prefer having an homogeneous machine without a dGPU and losing a bit in the game side, because it optimize battery life, heat dissipation and noise. Moreover it facilitate the support of the machine, without needing some tweeks like Mavericks to improve battery life by switching between the dGpu and iGpu. That's my 2 cents thought.
Hope the new MBPr will be out soon.
This if my first post on MacRumors but i read all your messages since a year.
I am running a MBP Santa Rosa (2,2Ghz C2D, 2007) as my only machine so you might understand how eager I am to play around with an Haswell MBPr or MBA.
I am still undecided between MBA 13", MBPr 13" or MBPr15" but i think i am not the only one in this case.
About the debate "dGPU or not dGPU", I prefer having an homogeneous machine without a dGPU and losing a bit in the game side, because it optimize battery life, heat dissipation and noise. Moreover it facilitate the support of the machine, without needing some tweeks like Mavericks to improve battery life by switching between the dGpu and iGpu. That's my 2 cents thought.
Hope the new MBPr will be out soon.
Hello guys !
This if my first post on MacRumors but i read all your messages since a year.
I am running a MBP Santa Rosa (2,2Ghz C2D, 2007) as my only machine so you might understand how eager I am to play around with an Haswell MBPr or MBA.
I am still undecided between MBA 13", MBPr 13" or MBPr15" but i think i am not the only one in this case.
About the debate "dGPU or not dGPU", I prefer having an homogeneous machine without a dGPU and losing a bit in the game side, because it optimize battery life, heat dissipation and noise. Moreover it facilitate the support of the machine, without needing some tweeks like Mavericks to improve battery life by switching between the dGpu and iGpu. That's my 2 cents thought.
Hope the new MBPr will be out soon.
Based on that last part, it seems to me you need to ask yourself the following questions in this order:
1. Does the retina screen make a huge difference to you? (if you said no, then the 13" MBA should be just fine especially since it prioritizes battery life)
2. If yes to the above, then which size rMBP? 13" or 15"?
The best way to answer these questions would be to spend some time in an Apple store (if possible) and use each machine to decide which form factor you like best.
The plot thickens. This 15-inch retina I ordered at work on July 10th is also delayed. Just got this email...
Dear Apple Education Customer,
Thank you for your recent order.
Purchase Order#: *****
Sales Order#: **********
Ship-to Zip Code: **********
Due to an unexpected delay, we are unable to ship the following item(s)
by the date that you were originally quoted:
ME664LL/A, MBP 15.4/2.4/8GB/256GB FLASH-USA
will now ship on or before
Jul 25, 2013
MD506LL/A, 85W MAGSAFE 2 POWER ADAPTER-USA
will now ship on or before
Jul 25, 2013
MD463ZM/A, THUNDERBOLT GIGABIT ETHERNET ADAPTER-ZML
will now ship on or before
Jul 25, 2013
MD504ZM/A, MAGSAFE TO MAGSAFE 2 CONVERTER-ZML
will now ship on or before
Jul 25, 2013
Please note that product availability can change rapidly, and it is
possible that your order may ship much sooner than we anticipate. You
may even receive a shipment confirmation between the time we send this
email and the time that you read it.
You will receive an email notification once your order has been shipped.
We encourage you to visit: <http://www.apple.com/orderstatus>.
We appreciate your business and apologize for any inconvenience this
delay may have caused you.
The Apple Store For Education
Interesting none-the-less. Configure-to-order Mac minis I ordered on the 11th will arrive this Friday from China, according to the tracking info I received.
Dear Apple Education Customer,
Thank you for your recent order.
Purchase Order#: *****
Sales Order#: **********
Ship-to Zip Code: **********
Due to an unexpected delay, we are unable to ship the following item(s)
by the date that you were originally quoted:
ME664LL/A, MBP 15.4/2.4/8GB/256GB FLASH-USA
will now ship on or before
Jul 25, 2013
MD506LL/A, 85W MAGSAFE 2 POWER ADAPTER-USA
will now ship on or before
Jul 25, 2013
MD463ZM/A, THUNDERBOLT GIGABIT ETHERNET ADAPTER-ZML
will now ship on or before
Jul 25, 2013
MD504ZM/A, MAGSAFE TO MAGSAFE 2 CONVERTER-ZML
will now ship on or before
Jul 25, 2013
Please note that product availability can change rapidly, and it is
possible that your order may ship much sooner than we anticipate. You
may even receive a shipment confirmation between the time we send this
email and the time that you read it.
You will receive an email notification once your order has been shipped.
We encourage you to visit: <http://www.apple.com/orderstatus>.
We appreciate your business and apologize for any inconvenience this
delay may have caused you.
The Apple Store For Education
Interesting none-the-less. Configure-to-order Mac minis I ordered on the 11th will arrive this Friday from China, according to the tracking info I received.
That is very interesting, there might be a chance for a refresh next week. Fingers crossed that's for sure.
it happened on many occasions.
but the only shipping delays on a certain product that lead to refresh is the iMac, January 2011.
happens on September 2012, Mac Mini delay - iPhone refresh.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1434528/
happens on December 2010, MBA delay - Nothing released.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2672599?start=0&tstart=0
well theres a lot more out there in google.
It could be they are relocating resources, short of components and stuff.
as much as i wanted to believe, iphone rumors are really hot ATM...
lets hope that they are releasing macbooks, and not iphones...
but the only shipping delays on a certain product that lead to refresh is the iMac, January 2011.
happens on September 2012, Mac Mini delay - iPhone refresh.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1434528/
happens on December 2010, MBA delay - Nothing released.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2672599?start=0&tstart=0
well theres a lot more out there in google.
It could be they are relocating resources, short of components and stuff.
as much as i wanted to believe, iphone rumors are really hot ATM...
lets hope that they are releasing macbooks, and not iphones
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