Funny, Ellison steps down from the board in 2002, right around the time that Apple's second coming started in earnest.
Denial! Shark bait
Funny, Ellison steps down from the board in 2002, right around the time that Apple's second coming started in earnest.
Reminds me of when Michael Dell started pontificating a similar rhetoric back in the day.
That was then and this is now.
He could be right, he could be wrong. But the fact is Apple haven't brought anything interesting to the table in a few years, just incremental updates to existing product lines.
Google/Android and the rest of the world are catching up or surpassing in some areas so I wouldn't say the future is as rosy as it appeared 2 or 3 years ago.
everyone did universally love the green felt of Game Center and the yellow lined paper of note pad. on the other hand...what the hell are you talking about?!
what icons are you having problems identifying in the ios7 beta? with some changes comes some adjustment and that's it. i think you have a bigger problem than ios 7 does.
Whether you like his opinion or not, you do kinda have to respect it. Even though it was so late in the 90s and early in the 2000s when he was on Apple's board, he did see a lot more than the public does of what goes on in the company.
I'm tired of the "Steve would've never let this happen" thing. But on the other hand, if the board is worried there hasn't been enough innovation since Steve has been gone, you have to wonder what's going on in the product pipeline, especially since Steve set Apple up for a few years.
Was the Retina display MacBook Pro the last thing in Steve's pipeline? Did the company change course? Is Tim Cook not acting as Steve had wished?
But needless to say, not a single person in the public knows what's going on behind closed doors and can't answer any of these questions I just stated. We'll just have to wait and see.
Yea, especially that air graph he drew with his finger. Brilliant!
Its not worth arguing over because time will tell.
Larry Ellison is a clueless arrogant prick. That is the number 1 reason i left Oracle - i was sick of making him rich while our bonuses were cut every year. Take his prediction with a grain of salt. He is clueless. I don't know what Steve saw in him. I think he just liked competing with him.
Agreed. He is a supply guy but no visionary. Kinda sad. I still love my Mac products but reading an article recently which said the board of apple is putting pressure on Tim cook to turn around products faster dt the ongoing threat of android. I think that's the wrong way of running apple. Apple was always about fine tuning a product and making it close to perfection to satisfy Steve Jobs drive for perfection. In that drive, products became great and caught on. Releasing products for the sake of the bottom sounds like apple of the mid to late 80s after jobs was ousted and apple launching crappy products.
"we already know"
ok, but back in the 90's when Apple tried to survive without Jobs, Jobs was still alive
even if the company was struggling, he could have come back anytime
ever since Jobs passed away, i could sense the difference as an employee
never before, apple has ever been focused on metrics and obsessed with making money
i joined the company almost a year before he was gone and the company was worried about how to service people well at the genius bar, how to provide the best training during One-to-One and making sure customers would leave the store with proper training through setup sessions
Apple was obsessed with Net Promoter Score, because it was more worried about people being happy and being promoters for the brand they like rather than making more money, selling more and selling with the highest attachment rate (managers harassing specialists to sell O2O, APP and JV)
i finally left because Apple lost its Apple spirit
Evaluate Tim Cook's performance based on the facts that we have.
1) Does put anti-glare dispalys in the iMac, but then goes for that new technique in fusing the glass to the housing (or whatever) and the result is production problems causing delays in getting the product to market, and then the displays are too color vibrant for me, too hard to look at for extended periods. And the 21.5" RAM can't be user upgraded? Poor design!!
2) 2012 Mac Mini uses Intel HD graphics 4000 which in that generation are unsatisfactory (not against Intel HD graphics, especially the 5000 in the new Air looks good, but just saying that the 2011 Mac Mini had a better graphics subsystem even if limited to 256 MB of very fast discrete VRAM)
3) No real Mac Pro update since 2010 (all they had to do was release one with Thunderbolt please with $170 billion can't they afford this?) and when they finally announce one, it is this redesign and we are still waiting for it! And it only has 4 RAM slots so apparently is limited to 64 GB of RAM for the next year or two at least.
4) >4" screen iPhone is probably NOT coming out this year, which is NOT SATISFACTORY.
5) No 7" tablet.
Conclusion: Tim Cook has done some good things such as the iPad mini but he appears to be a perfectionist who is letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, and he is not filling the product niches. As for really innovative entirely new product lines, well I'm willing to give him another two to three years for that. Real innovation happens when a variety of factors converge. It was 6 years between the iPod and the iPhone, then 3 before the iPad. But he might be gone before then if he doesn't stop taking too long to get new products out and then they are disappointing.
Made me smile - but very true. Thanks!...Steve Is STILL getting patents granted and he's dead.
Ummm, the first generation aluminum iPhone to the plastic iPhone 3G maybe?
I.e investing in plastic crap iPhone 5C alongside with yet another boring, the same looking 5S instead of releasing bigger, wider screen one, will definitely not go very well with investors and potential iPhone buyers.
Just watch those shares tumbling down after 9/10...
Yup it's happening. Just look at the state of iOS 7 and the cheap plastic rumoured iPhones. Steve Jobs would have never allowed this.
Completely different situation. Back then the people who fired Jobs hated his guts.
This time, Jobs trusted most (if not all) the people on the exec team.
They fired Forstall…..
Steve would need to come back and go a few more times before I could see the pattern.
You're right, it can run, they just haven't figured it out yet.