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Tablets Predicted to Make Up Half of Total PC Shipments in 2014, iPad to Fall Further Behind Android
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And Apple doesn't care. Apple recognized from the beginning that there is a market for cheap tablets. That's not rocket science. What you won't see is Apple trying to infiltrate that market.
This again... Search these forums and/or look at Apple's financial filing.
Apple reports shipped as sold when selling to retailers and carriers.
Also, look up the term "write down" in regards to your "Like nearly a billion dollars worth, each." statement.
Couldn't agreed more. They are also using worldwide numbers. There will always be budget buyer in India, China etc that's looking to buy cheaper stuffs.
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The important thing to consider isn't that apple will inevitably lose market share to low cost competitors but rather that apple is likely going to make more money next year on iPads than they did this year. I am willing to bet they do and that's all that really matters.
The "analytics" companies are far from transparent and have their own agendas. They also have corporate clients to please.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...ategy-analytics-pc-phone-tablet-data-on-apple
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...ategy-analytics-pc-phone-tablet-data-on-apple
This is pretty standard fair for Apple. Even back way way way in the day.And people called Apple crazy for saying they'd dominate the market
Steve envisioned this a few years ago.
Apple, due to their closed nature, and "premium" pricing has always been niche player in any mature ecosystem.
What People forgot in the last decade was they led in 3 major platforms not because of "being the best". but because they were "first" (thats in quotes cause they were never actually first to market, just leaders in new market segments)
The iPod market? They led the mp3 player market for the first little while because they were one of the first and best devices in a brand new emerging market. Nobody had done mp3 players quite like apple till then. But once the Mp3 player market became mature, Apple no longer was the dominante #1 player.
Similar for Smartphone. Apple was one of the leaders in full screen touch devices. one of the first, and one of the first to really push and market them well. They also took advantage of their history in the ipod market to gain traction. While the Smartphone market was emerging, and therefore seeing the greatest % growth, Apple was at the forefront because they were early to the game and making a fantastic product. Again. now that Smartphones are a mature market. Apples Closed system and premium pricing isn't the #1 choice for devices anymore.
This is going to carry on to Tablets. same concept. Emerging Market that nobody really did right before, they are all over and able to leap ahead. Now that the Tablet market is mature, we're seeing the shift to other manufacturers again.
Why does this keep happening?
Choice. Apple maintains closed ecosystems with premium pricing. Technology isn't a "one size fits all" and so far, each mature marketplace that Apple helped Pioneer, have moved overall towards one of the competitors providing more substancial choices, resulting in overall more sales going elsewhere.
Please dont read this as me attacking apple in any way. this is their business. it's always been their business. And now as Tablets are a mature product segment with hundreds, if not thousands of manufacturers making tablets ranging in size from 5" cheap single core 512mb ram device, to the highest end windows tablets with haswell CPU's
Not sure if I'm missing the boat here on the iPad. It's a nice device, but just can't see owning one as my only computer.
I say that because buying one to sit between my expensive Retina MacBook Pro and iPhone 5s would be big time Apple overkill and would surely render one of those devices as a very pricey dust collector.
I could "get by" with just an iPad, but I guess I'd rather have the do-everything Mac and get my iOS experience from my iPhone which is the same thing only smaller.
I say that because buying one to sit between my expensive Retina MacBook Pro and iPhone 5s would be big time Apple overkill and would surely render one of those devices as a very pricey dust collector.
I could "get by" with just an iPad, but I guess I'd rather have the do-everything Mac and get my iOS experience from my iPhone which is the same thing only smaller.
The next generation won't be about hardware it is going to be about software. Any old Chinese manufacturer can give you a tablet that means you can surf the web and watch movies.
The reason you will get an iPad is the seamless integration of your files and intuitive nature of how it is presented to you will be the USP. Trouble is, this is very difficult to sell unless you lock someone into your ecosystem. Apps that interact with devices outside the phone that are essential to your life like your car, household appliances locks etc. This is the future.
The reason you will get an iPad is the seamless integration of your files and intuitive nature of how it is presented to you will be the USP. Trouble is, this is very difficult to sell unless you lock someone into your ecosystem. Apps that interact with devices outside the phone that are essential to your life like your car, household appliances locks etc. This is the future.
I don't know about that, at least not if we're including all tablets. We're looking at these at work. i5 processor (sure not a quad-core or anything, but it's not any of that Atom BS at least), up to 8GB RAM, regular size hard drive, 64-bit OS support...the dock accessory even supports dual monitors.
Drawback...Windows 8
As an owner of an iPad 3 and a Nexus 10, I can resoundingly tell you that the apps I run on the Nexus 10 are more than capable, designed well and look beautiful.
So true. Isn't quite there yet. The macbook provides portability and nearly the same battery life of an iPad plus the full awesome power of the mac. Not saying I wouldn't find lots of use for an iPad, but it just isn't yet a necessity for me when I already have an iPhone 5S.
Maybe there will be an iPad under Christmas tree next year
Glad you enjoy them. To each their own.
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Looking to get into the same boat here. The iPad is powerful, but not quite so much for my needs.
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basically correct analysis. Not the whole story but essentially right at first read.
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In fairness, the Android market does put up some good tablets (not that you would want to own one), but for others who are less particular they do meet the basic needs of a tablet user. Personally, I'm in for the whole experience with Apple and would rather put up with any iOS/OS X issues than start over with another platform. And I will NOT go back to Windows!
Exactly. The Mac never had a market share advantage over all the cheap PC clones back in the day.
And the Mac is still around 20 years later.
But how many of the cheap PC companies either went out of business or were merged into bigger cheap PC companies? Is that the definition of success? Surely not.
You're right... it is like the early days of PCs all over again. There are a bunch of companies all selling the same type of product... and then there's Apple doing their own thing. Quite successfully, actually.
There are over 100 manufacturers of Android devices, including cheap white-box Android devices, all pooled together to make some huge market share number. And then there's the iPad with a much smaller number.
On paper it looks terrible... but I haven't seen the iPad suffer as a result.
Absolutely right. In the store I work in, our stock room is still full of original MS Surfaces and stacks of old android tablets that never sold. If only I was in charge of ordering stock.
I am really worried about iOS. Everyone I talk to loathes the new interface, it looks boring and dull. And there is still no real customization. Not talking about totally changing out your UI and such. I mean widgets and intents for example. Every time I use my Android devices I am baffled at why widgets don't exist on iOS. Why does OS X still support them even though they haven't been touched in years.
Intents is so damn powerful it drives me crazy Apple won't add it. What if I don't want to use Safari reading list ? I want to use Pocket ? So what, now I have to email the links to a special address ? Same thing with Evernote.
Apple is really falling behind. Sure, the hardware is still above all the rest. TouchID and 120fps camera. Amazing awesome things to have. But the software needs a kick in the ass.
Intents is so damn powerful it drives me crazy Apple won't add it. What if I don't want to use Safari reading list ? I want to use Pocket ? So what, now I have to email the links to a special address ? Same thing with Evernote.
Apple is really falling behind. Sure, the hardware is still above all the rest. TouchID and 120fps camera. Amazing awesome things to have. But the software needs a kick in the ass.
It's funny, I was cruising through the channels over the weekend and landed on one of the home shopping channels where they were selling a "Google Certified" Android tablet for something like $129 or $149. There was a big Google logo behind the presenters on camera but it wasn't a Nexus device they were selling. Since when is Google "certifying" non-Nexus devices and what the heck does "Google certified" even mean?
I stayed on the presentation long enough to hear the guy say "Google certified" at least three times. Then I watched him turn the tablet from portrait to landscape and it took the tablet at least three seconds to re-orient. A minute or so later when he turned the tablet to switch back from landscape to portrait, the camera conveniently cut away. I turned the channel while mumbling "Google certified" under my breath.
I stayed on the presentation long enough to hear the guy say "Google certified" at least three times. Then I watched him turn the tablet from portrait to landscape and it took the tablet at least three seconds to re-orient. A minute or so later when he turned the tablet to switch back from landscape to portrait, the camera conveniently cut away. I turned the channel while mumbling "Google certified" under my breath.
iPads are selling well, there's no reason Apple should make a cheaper tablet just to fulfill the poverty market.
Apple is not falling behind where they even care. If they did, they'd start selling a cheapo crap tablet today.
Fall "further" behind? By what metric that has any importance to anyone?
Apple's ahead in the metrics that matter to profits, to developers, and best of all: to users.
Fudging the numbers in Android's favor is easy:
- Take "analyst" fictions and treat them as facts.
- Count "shipped" instead of sold.
- Count Asian media players designed to use pirated content on SD cards and don't even connect to the Internet, much less run apps. (Apparently these are HUGELY popular in unit numbers, yet of no interest to developers or "tabler users" per se.)
- Count embedded, non-user devices that happen to run Android internally.
- Equate high-end, well-supported quality tablets with low-end, throwaway junk. Pretend those junk sales are actually high-end Samsung/Nexus sales when they're not. Pretend those sales are in the US when they're limited to Asia.
- Ignore actual usage stats, be they from app developers or web traffic.
- Combine the installed base of ancient versions of Android all together, and equate them with the latest iOS.
- Add up all Android makers (including dozens of tiny low-end no-name ones we've never heard of) into one master total and compare that entire total with one company's numbers alone.
- Ignore ease of use, quality and breadth of app selection, and basically anything to do with real-world use.
Apple's ahead in the metrics that matter to profits, to developers, and best of all: to users.
Fudging the numbers in Android's favor is easy:
- Take "analyst" fictions and treat them as facts.
- Count "shipped" instead of sold.
- Count Asian media players designed to use pirated content on SD cards and don't even connect to the Internet, much less run apps. (Apparently these are HUGELY popular in unit numbers, yet of no interest to developers or "tabler users" per se.)
- Count embedded, non-user devices that happen to run Android internally.
- Equate high-end, well-supported quality tablets with low-end, throwaway junk. Pretend those junk sales are actually high-end Samsung/Nexus sales when they're not. Pretend those sales are in the US when they're limited to Asia.
- Ignore actual usage stats, be they from app developers or web traffic.
- Combine the installed base of ancient versions of Android all together, and equate them with the latest iOS.
- Add up all Android makers (including dozens of tiny low-end no-name ones we've never heard of) into one master total and compare that entire total with one company's numbers alone.
- Ignore ease of use, quality and breadth of app selection, and basically anything to do with real-world use.
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This tired old argument of iPad losing share to Android... this is very obviously going to happen - lots of manufacturers vs Apple.
What is important is the ecosystem, customer and developer interest. Apple have a clear lead in all of these.
Actually the ability to share files between applications would be very nice....
iCloud is just too limited. How do I load a file in Pages from someone else iCloud on my device - and I don't mean using the Web versions.
What is important is the ecosystem, customer and developer interest. Apple have a clear lead in all of these.
Actually the ability to share files between applications would be very nice....
iCloud is just too limited. How do I load a file in Pages from someone else iCloud on my device - and I don't mean using the Web versions.