Apple Seeds OS X 10.9.1 Build 13B40 to Developers

There are always a lot of bugs to fix. Not just for OSX and not just for Apple.

zone23 said:

What surprises me is how long it takes for them to release an update that by the sounds of it doesn't do anything. I didn't switch to Apple so I could use Gmail, if I wanted to use Gmail I will switch back to android and windows.

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I have exactly the same feeling. How about something that's actually useful.

External Hard Drives ejecting when wake Mac from Sleep

Hopefully, there will be a fix for the external hard drives ejecting when waking the Mac from a sleep cycle. This was a problem with ML until the release of the 10.8.5 supplemental update. It took about a year to correct this problem......

Anyone else experiencing this problem?

Bug report:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/

pickaxe said:

You are quite uninformed. No 10.9.1 DP had Feedback Assistant installed on my devices.

Also, you don't seem to know what cracking is. OS X has no protection.

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What, Apple doesn't protect its free OS?

mcarling said:

Going all the way back to 10.0.0 and 10.0.1, this is the longest time ever between a 10.x.0 release and the 10.x.1 release.

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I think Mavericks is about to beat Puma as the longest release of a 10.x.1.

If they don't release 10.9.1 in the next 2 hours this will indeed be the longest release time for a 10.x.1.

tywebb13 said:

I think Mavericks is about to beat Puma as the longest release of a 10.x.1.

If they don't release 10.9.1 in the next 2 hours this will indeed be the longest release time for a 10.x.1.

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Does it matter...? What matters now is for Apple to get the problems fixed... I'm tired of filing the same set of bug reports over and over again only to find they are still there...

Well it doesn't matter to appleseeders and developers who already have 10.9.1 and have for a while now.

But it DOES matter to everyone else who have had to wait a long time for it (longer now than any other release of a 10.x.1).

tywebb13 said:

Well it doesn't matter to appleseeders and developers who already have 10.9.1 and have for a while now.

But it DOES matter to everyone else who have had to wait a long time for it (longer now than any other release of a 10.x.1).

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Wait...? I'd rather wait until 10.9.5...

In the meantime, I'd go back to ML...

Eithanius said:

Wait...? I'd rather wait until 10.9.5...

In the meantime, I'd go back to ML...

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Oh remember those times when we used to say "...i'd go back to SL"

Eithanius said:

Does it matter...? What matters now is for Apple to get the problems fixed... I'm tired of filing the same set of bug reports over and over again only to find they are still there...

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Agreed. Though some of us philosophically won't install a 10.x.0 release. Let's just hope that a lot is fixed in 10.9.1 and that it comes before Christmas

Of course another thing which is released soon after the public version of the 10.9.1 update is the full installer for 10.9.1. And soon after that a 10.9.2 update for appleseed and developers.

So even though I've already got the 10.9.1 update, I'm still interested in when the public version is released.

Apple should of course take as long as it takes to get it right before releasing it to the public.

I'm still waiting for 10.9.1 ！

tywebb13 said:

Well it doesn't matter to appleseeders and developers who already have 10.9.1 and have for a while now.

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Nobody has 10.9.1 yet. Seeders and devs have had various beta builds of 10.9.1, which is not the same thing.

Of course I was only referring to the betas.

But the betas don't necessarily have fixes. Testers have newer software but some things may be fixed, some may not, and some new things may be broken. It's not like the testers are all sitting around using software that has everything fixed.

milo said:

some things may be fixed, some may not, and some new things may be broken.

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Yeah but the same can be said of the public release too. It might be a bit better than the developer previews, but not much better.

Classic example would be builds 13A598 (first GM for developers) and 13A603 (public release). Was 13A598 buggy? Yes. So was 13A603. Are they much different? No.

tywebb13 said:

Classic example would be builds 13A598 (first GM for developers) and 13A603 (public release). Was 13A598 buggy? Yes. So was 13A603. Are they much different? No.

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Those were just a couple days apart. There's a huge range in the various betas, some change a lot, some just a little. And at this point we don't know if the current beta will be the one released or if they will do a lot more before it goes out.

milo said:

Nobody has 10.9.1 yet.

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The build which was released to Apple retail employees last week is likely to be identical to the final 10.9.1 release. All successful work since that build will go into 10.9.2 not 10.9.1 -- unless a showstopper bug has been found in last week's build.

FYI gmail is still broken in the latest 10.9.1 beta for those wondering. It's still not updating read mail consistently on my iMac when it's read on my phone etc etc.

I may have to go back to ML at this point. Mavericks + gmail just don't go together.

WilliamG said:

FYI gmail is still broken in the latest 10.9.1 beta for those wondering. It's still not updating read mail consistently on my iMac when it's read on my phone etc etc.

I may have to go back to ML at this point. Mavericks + gmail just don't go together.

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I had a lot of problems with Mail on Mavericks until I deleted all my old accounts (most importantly, so nothing showed up in Connection Doctor) and re-adding my Gmail back in. For whatever reason, an old, now nonexistent Exchange account that I had previously removed, but still had some old configuration settings still floating around, was causing my Gmail to perform terribly.

Mr. Wonderful said:

I had a lot of problems with Mail on Mavericks until I deleted all my old accounts (most importantly, so nothing showed up in Connection Doctor) and re-adding my Gmail back in. For whatever reason, an old, now nonexistent Exchange account that I had previously removed, but still had some old configuration settings still floating around, was causing my Gmail to perform terribly.

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I don't have an exchange account, and deleting/re-adding gmail hasn't solved anything historically. I guess I could try it again...

mcarling said:

The build which was released to Apple retail employees last week is likely to be identical to the final 10.9.1 release.

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Who knows, it could go either way.

mcarling said:

The build which was released to Apple retail employees last week is likely to be identical to the final 10.9.1 release.

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milo said:

Who knows, it could go either way.

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It could have gone either way, but what was likely to happen did happen. I will be upgrading to Mavericks today.

mcarling said:

It could have gone either way

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Even a stopped clock is right once a day.

yojo056 said:

Thank the Lord! Gmail fixes. *KILLING ME!*

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HA! Gmail fixes.. Where are they? They released to the general, I downloaded and installed, and I can still sit there for hours with no emails. Quit mail, reopen and it works...

No wonder Mavericks was a free update.