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Old Dec 10, 2013, 10:39 AM   #26
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Siri, the least used 'feature' on my iPhone. Maybe someday I'll take the time to really understand how to make it work for me, but in the meantime, I'd rather type something into Google, or Yelp, or Maps, or....
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 10:40 AM   #27
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Never defend a technology! Technology is meant to develop to serve the requirements/limitations of existing human behaviour; human behaviour shouldn't be expected to adapt to meet the requirements/limitations of technology.
You're being ridiculous. So you're saying a person should be able to mumble, speak in a lazy manner, speak unusually fast or mispronounce words and a "computer" is suppose to fully understand a human??? GTFOH.
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 10:41 AM   #28
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I also noticed this!
Probably a rounding artifact no one on the publisher's end caught.
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 10:46 AM   #29
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There is no way these charts are accurate. Even when I speak as clearly as possible and enunciate every syllable, Siri understands me about 40% of the time.
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I get 90% accuracy, I don't know what's going on with you.
I agree. I get close to 90% and I'm from overseas
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 10:46 AM   #30
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Half the time she just says she can't help me at this time since upgrading. Way worse then IOS6 for me.
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 10:48 AM   #31
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When I got iOS 7 I did notice a pronunciation correction. There's a town nearby called Braselton, pronounced "Brah-zel-ton." Siri had been pronouncing it "Bray-zel-ton." It's correct on TBT directions now. But she still can't pronounce "sugar" like there's an h after the s.
This last line really points out the true difficulty of what Apple and Google and anyone in voice recognition have to deal with. In my local dialect of Midwestern English sugar is pronounced as if there is an h after the s. Is there a pronunciation difference between aunt and ant? How about pin and pen? Is drag a regular or irregular verb? And I could go on and on for days, and this is all just within the umbrella of US English. Try adding in the various dialects of British English, Canadian English, Australian English, etc.

How about the Spanglish spoken in places like Gibraltar or Southern California where the speaker will switch mid-sentence between English and Spanish? Heck, as one poster pointed out, even humans have a hard time understanding each other a lot of the time. So, why do we expect a machine as stupid as a computer to be perfect?

Could it improve? Yeah. Will it improve? Yeah. Will it ever be perfect? Heck no.

That being said, I have to really question just how much this is really an article concerning Apple doing well. Doesn't Apple still use Nuance for the voice to text conversion which is then fed into Siri's knolwedge base search engine? If that is true then isn't an improvement in understanding what is asked an improvement for Nuance? While the drop in returning a correct response when the question is understood (nuance did its job) actually a bad thing for Apple?
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 10:48 AM   #32
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It's truly amazing that Apple and Google are able to create these apps. The variation in voice, pronunciation, tone, pitch, amplitude, dialects, languages, and so on is amazing. Having a machine be able to sort this all out with such speed and accuracy is even more amazing.

I finally was able to upgrade to a 5s, and am starting to use Siri more and more every day.
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 10:50 AM   #33
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Until Apple adds on-device voice parsing (like Google does) and rely less on server based transcription, Siri will never be as good and fast as Google Now.

Apple created a separate Motion coprocessor, maybe it's time for Siri to have its own chip.
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 10:52 AM   #34
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There is no way these charts are accurate. Even when I speak as clearly as possible and enunciate every syllable, Siri understands me about 40% of the time.
Siri amazes me whenever I speak to her. She understands and displays every word I say well over 95% of the time, even with the TV blasting away in the background.
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 10:53 AM   #35
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 10:53 AM   #36
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There is no way these charts are accurate. Even when I speak as clearly as possible and enunciate every syllable, Siri understands me about 40% of the time.
Do you work at a Laundromat or 7Eleven store?
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 10:54 AM   #37
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Until Apple adds on-device voice parsing (like Google does) and rely less on server based transcription, Siri will never be as good and fast as Google Now.
Offline parsing is rarely done on Android. It is there as a backup. What makes Google fast is it is able to translate it in real time and not have to wait for you to finish. You can see this happening live as it tends to guess what you say but when you are done it will go back and correct some words based on the totality of what you said.
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 10:55 AM   #38
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You're being ridiculous. So you're saying a person should be able to mumble, speak in a lazy manner, speak unusually fast or mispronounce words and a "computer" is suppose to fully understand a human??? GTFOH.
No, I'm saying when you've got that situation, the response should be to continue to improve the technology until it can understand the way real people speak in the real world, rather than tell people they now have to speak differently. Yes, in this instance it may be beyond the bounds of what can be achieved now, but look at how limited voice recognition was 10 years ago and imagine what it could be capable of in another 10 years if driven to improve rather than just adopt the attitude that it's people who are the problem.
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 11:00 AM   #39
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Half the time she just says she can't help me at this time since upgrading. Way worse then IOS6 for me.
This has never, ever happened to me. Do you only use Siri at 2:00 a.m. when they run their updates?
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 11:00 AM   #40
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It's fun watching Geordies (myself included) trying to talk all posh to get a decent response from Well Spoken British Man Siri
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 11:07 AM   #41
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Haven't you ever heard of the "new math"? It was all the rage back in the 70's and 80's. The kids from that era now work for the media, spewing forth whatever numbers they get without analysis or question.
LOL, do you mean from the 90's and 00's? In the 80's Math was math, no calculator or Computer allowed in class, got to learn to do calculations by hand, and do it right or else...
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 11:07 AM   #42
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I'll wager there's some overlap leeway. Or the rounding up/down just created a slight anomaly on the percentages.
This is what I was thinking.
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 11:09 AM   #43
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This is what I was thinking.
what happened to quality control??? or fractions?
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 11:15 AM   #44
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This has never, ever happened to me. Do you only use Siri at 2:00 a.m. when they run their updates?
Around 8 am and then my second most Likely time would be in the late afternoon.
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 11:15 AM   #45
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Hopefully Apple is improving their services faster than they used to.

Siri has seemed better over time for me.
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 11:16 AM   #46
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My experience of Siri is one of total frustration. Even simple questions like 'Give me directions to from ____ to ____' yields a totally incorrect answer about something completely unrelated. The conversational stuff shown in the adverts is just impossible and must be carefully scripted when its demonstrated. It understands the words I speak but cannot comprehend anything other than syntactically extremely basic questions. After all this time I thought it would have improved more than it has.
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this topic should have had (unless your scottish) in brackets
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 11:22 AM   #48
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I never had a Problem with siri. Nonetheless it is a feature that, if Apple decided to remove it from iOS, I'd need about a month to realize it was gone.
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 11:23 AM   #49
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It's truly amazing that Apple and Google are able to create these apps. The variation in voice, pronunciation, tone, pitch, amplitude, dialects, languages, and so on is amazing. Having a machine be able to sort this all out with such speed and accuracy is even more amazing.

I finally was able to upgrade to a 5s, and am starting to use Siri more and more every day.
I like your attitude. It truly is amazing that this can be done and I also am using Siri much more since upgrading from my 4S (also switched carriers and got LTE which helped a lot).
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 11:26 AM   #50
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When iOS 7 first was released, I got a bunch of "Unable to process your request" errors, but lately she has been great. My latest surprise has been asking "what's a turducken" and in < 2 seconds getting a picture and description. A recent dissapointment was being able to ask about my next appointment, but not being able to figure out how to get directions to my next appointment.

Getting a Kinivo BTC450 bluetooth adapter for my car has significantly increased my use of and dependence on SIRI

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