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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:19 PM   #26
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I guess it's asking too much to expect people to comment on what this means from an iTunes, AAPL or technology standpoint instead of an "I don't like this kind of music" rant.
Music has little to do with it. This is about marketing deals, MBAs, exclusive agreements, some weird narrative about "anti-marketing" because it's a "quiet release", commercial licensing, and all the rest of it. This is the music equivalent of The Hobbit. The question of whether it's a good album is almost irrelevant next to the need to recoup investment.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:20 PM   #27
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If Apple keeps 30% she has made about $9.8 Million already.
I wish I had that kind of iTunes store revenue.
Yep she eliminated the middle man.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:21 PM   #28
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I think that holding back the physical release was smart since it didn't allow the album to be saturated within the pirate community before release (though I'm sure it is by now). I suspect we'll see a lot more of this digital release-window exclusivity in the future.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:21 PM   #29
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Yep she eliminated the middle man.
There's still a middle man...he just got delayed.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:23 PM   #30
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"All music on the iTunes Store comes in iTunes Plus®, Apple’s DRM-free format with high-quality 256 kbps AAC encoding for audio virtually indistinguishable from the original recordings."

Virtually?

No thanks. If you can't even match CD quality (44.1 16 bit PCM) then I'll keep my money.
You must be fun at parties.

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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:23 PM   #31
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Man oh man, exclusively available in a lossy format.
The so called audiophiles with this allegedly amazing hearing which requires lossless music quality or they die are a minority.

Depending on what kind of music all I hear is noise, that might as well get lost.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:24 PM   #32
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What do you expect considering there's no other way to get her music?

This is a meaningless milestone.
Come on give her some credit, it was a very bold move just dropping the album like that at mignight without a single hint. Again, I am not a fan of her, but she -or her team- did something very different, very risky, and got rewarded handsomely for it.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:25 PM   #33
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Yeah. I'm sure everyone has at least $2999 lying around to buy this thing.
No, but reading about it is probably more interesting.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:26 PM   #34
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talentless hack just like lady gaga....
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:26 PM   #35
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You must be fun at parties.

...who am I kidding, I hate parties.
I bring the good tunes.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:27 PM   #36
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talentless hack just like lady gaga....
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:27 PM   #37
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December 31, 23:59?
More like December 21, 2012 amirite?

No? Okay...
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:28 PM   #38
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This is proof that quality and popularity are two very different things.
As in mutually exclusive.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:35 PM   #39
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The first three days of sales is $13,252,080. If Apple gets 30%, that's $3,975,624. Not bad for three ad slots dedicated to an album for a few days.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:38 PM   #40
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What do you expect considering there's no other way to get her music?

This is a meaningless milestone.
Actually that should work against the sales as not all people want to use iTunes or are even aware that it's out (not seeing it in physical stores, other retailers etc.)

Do you know how many albums nowadays go platinum in the first week? Maybe two or three in a year. And she almost did it in three days.

This is great news for Apple.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:39 PM   #41
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Another reason why I want to be able to customize my itunes experience instead of being spammed every-time I open the store with music I hate thats made by "artists" who suck.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:47 PM   #42
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"All music on the iTunes Store comes in iTunes Plus®, Apple’s DRM-free format with high-quality 256 kbps AAC encoding for audio virtually indistinguishable from the original recordings."

Virtually?

No thanks. If you can't even match CD quality (44.1 16 bit PCM) then I'll keep my money.
You can keep it... Apple and Beyonce don't need it... they sold enough without your contribution.

I'm not a fan of her music (so I'm not defending her or her album that I didn't buy), but to be honest I'd say about 95-99% of the people out there don't care about the specs of their mp3/aac being whatever bit as long as it doesn't sound like it's coming out of an AM radio. There are only a select niche within of niche of people who would give a damn that it's not 44.1 16bit PCM

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The so called audiophiles with this allegedly amazing hearing which requires lossless music quality or they die are a minority.

Depending on what kind of music all I hear is noise, that might as well get lost.
They're a minority amongst minorities even... I doubt I'll ever see an audiophile that LOVES pop music... unless of course they're in that industry already.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:48 PM   #43
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"All music on the iTunes Store comes in iTunes Plus®, Apple’s DRM-free format with high-quality 256 kbps AAC encoding for audio virtually indistinguishable from the original recordings."

Virtually?

No thanks. If you can't even match CD quality (44.1 16 bit PCM) then I'll keep my money.
This. I can't believe that it's 2013 and they don't sell lossless. I'd definitely pay a few bucks more.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:50 PM   #44
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Music has little to do with it. This is about marketing deals, MBAs, exclusive agreements, some weird narrative about "anti-marketing" because it's a "quiet release", commercial licensing, and all the rest of it. This is the music equivalent of The Hobbit. The question of whether it's a good album is almost irrelevant next to the need to recoup investment.
LOL, preach it some more bro!
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:52 PM   #45
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I guess it's asking too much to expect people to comment on what this means from an iTunes, AAPL or technology standpoint instead of an "I don't like this kind of music" rant.

Agreed.

This was a great move for both the artist and iTunes. I like the fact that videos were released were also released and hopefully more artist do something like this.
Just wondering how she kept it under wraps.... there were no leaks.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:54 PM   #46
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I can't wait for the CD to come out!
Cassete tape!
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 01:01 PM   #47
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Just came here to post that while I don't usually listen to her music, I purchased this album on a whim and it is pretty great.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 01:04 PM   #48
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talentless hack just like lady gaga....
I don't care for her music, I never liked all that r'n'b-pop stuff, but I definitely wouldn't consider her talentless, she's doing well at what she is doing and the execution of her music is flawless (something that many bands in the stale (and by now embarrasing) "future pop" scene could use)...

Anyway, it's hard to tell if this is a one time success stunt which can be repeated by others equally successful, especially as she's a major act which has been established for years now. Reminds me of the NIN "free music" phase before Reznor went crawling back to the majors admitting that he relied on them.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 01:06 PM   #49
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 01:08 PM   #50
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Man oh man, exclusively available in a lossy format.
show me a double blind test that consistently shows people can tell a difference between .WAV rip and 256kbps VBR AAC

whats with the hate? when was the last time any of you got 800,000 of anything in less than a week.

in my opinion she's pulled off one of the most incredible feats in the last 5 years of the music industry.

Possibly only beat by the Beatles going to iTunes.

You try having a name recognition like 'Beyonce' and yet still pull off a full-length album, with numerous guest acts, with a music video for EVERY song....and still have it release without any leaks or even any pre-announcement leaks. Keep in mind that prior to this fans were complaining she's not releasing a new album before her next tour - no idea.
And still sell 800k in the first week to boot.
With 1 distribution channel. No hype-marketing.

"Talent-less"??
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