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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:34 PM   #26
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Though Apple's FaceTime camera is designed to always illuminate the adjacent green light at the top of the screen, software has been written to separate the camera and light hardware, allowing both illegal -- and legal, the FBI has used similar software in criminal investigations -- ways.
Sorry to be *that* guy, but the last part of that sentence is grammatically bizarre to me. Interesting placement of the hyphens and the comma.
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:34 PM   #27
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*puts on tin foil hat*
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:34 PM   #28
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:34 PM   #29
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This is like hacking Windows 95 and saying the flaw is most likely existent in Win 8.1, despite the multitude of kernel rewrites and hardware changes through the years. (The is still probably legacy code in 8.1, but seriously? This is very tenuous)

I'm waiting until the NSA comes out and shows is how it's done before I worry.
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:34 PM   #30
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Years ago, when the (external) iSight was dropped in favour of the built in camera, I found a gadget manufacturer that offered an iPatch.
A small pieces of rubber that covered the lens.
That company may see sales moving forward.

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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:35 PM   #31
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And what about the mic? Would tape silence that, also?
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:35 PM   #32
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:36 PM   #33
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Steve never would have allowed this...

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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:36 PM   #34
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Virus is a virus is a virus. Who cares if the person who downloads and installs this form of a trojan gets infected.

If this was an exploit than we have a whole different story.
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:36 PM   #35
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I can remember the keynote where Steve Jobs claimed that this hack couldn't be done as a justification for why they had removed physical iris when they moved from the old firewire iSight camera to the integrated models.

Never say never.
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:37 PM   #36
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There is an app for that, it's called iTape.
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:37 PM   #37
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Got a link?
It's available on Amazon.
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:37 PM   #38
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*puts on tin foil hat*
Where?
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:38 PM   #39
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No one cares about my old @ss.
yep, and a hacker would probably send me some tape to put over the camera .
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:38 PM   #40
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I wish I knew how to do that stuff. I've known a ton of girls who I'd like to see naked.
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:40 PM   #41
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yep, and a hacker would probably send me some tape to put over the camera .
Or permanently disable the camera.

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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:41 PM   #42
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Hah!

They can spy on this!! Zziiippp!!
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:41 PM   #43
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If someone wants to see what the majority of people do in front of a camera-ON THE INTERNET-good luck to them. #cannotbeunseen
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:42 PM   #44
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Miss Teen USA Cassidy Wolf Webcam Today Show Interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=SLtdV9yIho8

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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:43 PM   #45
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I wish I knew how to do that stuff. I've known a ton of girls who I'd like to see naked.
Come on man! Go get your game on and try attracting said girls rather than creeping.
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:46 PM   #46
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Awesome...nothing like a low tech solution for a high tech problem. It's getting to the point where one can't have a "private moment" without SOMEONE spying on you. I mean sure, I probably SHOULD have lowered the curtains that one time while walking around my house nude but dammit!, my neighbors should keep their eyes on their OWN damn house
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:46 PM   #47
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I've already developed a patch to fix this.

....well more like cut a patch out of a cloth than developed
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:48 PM   #48
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What is going to be most interesting is whether Cook changes future Macs so that the green light IS wired into the camera so that no software hack can defeat it.

Considering all of his public statements, memos and White House visits claiming that Apple is against all this surveillance, he could easily modify all future Macs to prevent at least this kind of governmental intrusion (well, not prevent it, but at least warn the user that the camera is on via the light)
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:49 PM   #49
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I wonder if they've changed the design since 2008. I was under the impression that the LED is on the path to power the camera. In other words, they're wired together in a way that you can't send power to the camera without powering on the LED first.
This has often been claimed but never demonstrated. I'd like to see an executable of the exploit they used, to test on various machines.
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 04:49 PM   #50
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*covers camera*
Software allows NSA hackers to activate x-ray to penetrate any cover on the camera.
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