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Apple's Redesigned Mac Pro Now Available for Online Orders
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I am a little puzzled why Apple cannot even give a keyboard away with itas it's much like buying a high spec vehicle and not getting the wheels.
Because most of us already have one? I don't really like their current keyboards anyway.
I don't tend to use the wheels from my last car on my new car btw
...but they do have a 4K display available, I guess that's not an improvement?
I do agree about the keyboard, I like it except for the da** white plastic keys. I would like one with the dark metal like the Mac Pro and black BACKLIT keys, like on their laptops. It needs to be the full keyboard like the wired one, need the 10-key and extra F-keys. I'd pay extra for one of these (over a Moshi Luna, or ugly Logitech illuminated windows keyboard, wireless but takes up USB slot b.s.), don't care if it's wired or wireless, would prefer bluetooth, but they must get rid of that f/n white plastic. It doesn't go with anything they make anymore, except the stupid white cables.
huh?!
a display with more price than the main device ??
This is exactly why we haven't seen a retina iMac or a retina 17" MBP(Both of which would have to be 4K sized resolutions) and why we have seen no real price drops on the rMBPs but the Airs have.(Apple cut the specs to reach the current price points)
Normally I would say the fact they didn't upgrade the Thunderbolt display was to push people to buy the 4K display, but there is such a huge difference in price I don't think it would even matter. If you are going to buy a TBD, you aren't even looking at dropping 3 and a half grand on a screen. The joke is that they advertise support for 3 4K displays. That's over 10k.
Just a question : what are you guys going to use it for ?
I'm an architect and switched from Mac Pro to (maxed out) Retina Macbook Pro last year, and it's "good enough" (but could be better of course). I especially wonder what the extra graphics capacity could be used for ? Is there any software that actually can use this kind of graphics capabilities (other than custom written software for research for example) ?
I'm an architect and switched from Mac Pro to (maxed out) Retina Macbook Pro last year, and it's "good enough" (but could be better of course). I especially wonder what the extra graphics capacity could be used for ? Is there any software that actually can use this kind of graphics capabilities (other than custom written software for research for example) ?
I don't think the GPU can be upgraded later on. It doesn't say "user accessible" like for memory and the storage.
I wouldn't max out the RAM unless you need it right now. The prices will go down and is one of the items you can self-upgrade later on.
A maxed out Mac Pro for 9,600€???
Apple is insane. No thank you. Especially not with the 1:1 exchange rate they are using for prices. The dollar is so weak right now, that after subtraction of the tax from the German prices, the machine would still cost around 11,000$, compared to 9,600$ in the US store. That makes a price difference of 1,400$!!!! That is a small Macbook Pro!
I am so sick of paying a premium all the time just because I am in Europe. Apple should be ashamed of milking their customers like that.
No Mac Pro for me any time in the near future. My old one will still serve me well for a long time to come.... Especially when I see the relatively disappointing benchmarks of the Mac Pros.
Apple is insane. No thank you. Especially not with the 1:1 exchange rate they are using for prices. The dollar is so weak right now, that after subtraction of the tax from the German prices, the machine would still cost around 11,000$, compared to 9,600$ in the US store. That makes a price difference of 1,400$!!!! That is a small Macbook Pro!
I am so sick of paying a premium all the time just because I am in Europe. Apple should be ashamed of milking their customers like that.
No Mac Pro for me any time in the near future. My old one will still serve me well for a long time to come.... Especially when I see the relatively disappointing benchmarks of the Mac Pros.
I am a little puzzled why Apple cannot even give a keyboard away with it
Because it wouldn't fit in the box without making it much bigger.
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A maxed out Mac Pro for 9,600€???
Apple is insane. No thank you. Especially not with the 1:1 exchange rate they are using for prices. The dollar is so weak right now, that after subtraction of the tax from the German prices, the machine would still cost around 11,000$, compared to 9,600$ in the US store. That makes a price difference of 1,400$!!!! That is a small Macbook Pro!
I am so sick of paying a premium all the time just because I am in Europe. Apple should be ashamed of milking their customers like that.
No Mac Pro for me any time in the near future. My old one will still serve me well for a long time to come.... Especially when I see the relatively disappointing benchmarks of the Mac Pros.
Apple always builds in a buffer of around 10%. There's no point even whining about it anymore, especially if you're a consumer where you get far better returns policies. It's really not that much extra compared with the fleecing you get from Adobe and Autodesk.
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A maxed out Mac Pro for 9,600???
Apple is insane. No thank you. Especially not with the 1:1 exchange rate they are using for prices. The dollar is so weak right now, that after subtraction of the tax from the German prices, the machine would still cost around 11,000$, compared to 9,600$ in the US store. That makes a price difference of 1,400$!!!! That is a small Macbook Pro!
I am so sick of paying a premium all the time just because I am in Europe. Apple should be ashamed of milking their customers like that.
No Mac Pro for me any time in the near future. My old one will still serve me well for a long time to come.... Especially when I see the relatively disappointing benchmarks of the Mac Pros.
I think your anger should be directed to the European Union and your own government. I'm sure Apple would be very happy to sell you their products at US prices.
Got Mine!
Mac Pro
With the following configuration:
3.5GHz 6-core with 12MB of L3 cache
32GB (4x8GB) of 1866MHz DDR3 ECC
1TB PCIe-based flash storage
Dual AMD FirePro D500 GPUs with 3GB of GDDR5 VRAM eac
Mac Pro
With the following configuration:
3.5GHz 6-core with 12MB of L3 cache
32GB (4x8GB) of 1866MHz DDR3 ECC
1TB PCIe-based flash storage
Dual AMD FirePro D500 GPUs with 3GB of GDDR5 VRAM eac
Ordered
8 Core
1TB SSD
Dual D300
12GB (will upgrade ram myself.)
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No, But you can use it as a blender !
8 Core
1TB SSD
Dual D300
12GB (will upgrade ram myself.)
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No, But you can use it as a blender !
Apple obviously see the UK as a place the can rip the you know what out of. That will never change, unless global trade laws change.
A disappointingly long wait for something that, despite being nice looking, is no great leap in performance unless you spend a shed load.
I'd be interested to see the performance of the single 6-core against the previous 6-core.
i am a little puzzled why apple cannot even give a keyboard away with it
Stop. The. Car. Analogies.
Can't wait to get the Starwars R2D2 costume for my new macpro
6 core
64 gb ram
Dual d700 gfx cards
1tb flash ram
Promise Pegasus r8 32tb raid storage
6 core
64 gb ram
Dual d700 gfx cards
1tb flash ram
Promise Pegasus r8 32tb raid storage
Please elaborate...
P.S.: The tariff for importing computers to Germany is 19%, which equals exactly the sales tax in Germany. As I already explained I had subtracted the tax already from the price and it would be still 1,400€ (15%) more expensive than in the US. This has NOTHING to do with the EU. This money goes directly into Apple's pocket.
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You answered your own question. People are using this where "good enough" isn't good enough. But more specifically, this will be the machine for editing 4K video. That' sway they mention it so much.
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I don't think processor upgrades were ever described as "user accessible" even though they were possible in the older Mac Pro. The video card is more in line with that now since there are no PCI slots. I'm sure it's going to be possible (but not easy). Can't imagine it being soldered in.
I am a little puzzled why Apple cannot even give a keyboard away with it
So you'd buy a top spec vehicle and leave it with the stock wheels?
Ever bought a new top spec car? You always choose better wheels. Most designers I know have their favourite keyboards and especially a fav mouse.
This just underlies the fact that this is professional kit. The other moan used to be about the pathetic amount of RAM in 'pro' machines. Personally I'd have preferred them to come with NO RAM and then get what I want from Crucial (or similar). In the past, I've bought a Mac Pro and literally thrown away the stock RAM and replaced it with higher capacity Crucial RAM. Saved a lot of money.
TL;DR: Apple know pro equipment always gets customized.
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People...please go look at OWC ram prices that came out yesterday. It is way cheaper than using Apple especially if you are going for 64GB. OWC for 64GB is $859 and they will give you $75 for 12GB or $100 for your 16GB that came in the stock config. That means the upgrade will only be $795 or $820 at most. 32GB is $479 and that will be $404 or $379 after the trade-in.
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