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Old Dec 26, 2013, 09:35 AM   #1
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Evad3rs Again Speak Out on 'Evasi0n' iOS 7 Jailbreak Controversy, Claim No Money Exchanged




Ahead of Christmas, the evad3rs released the evasi0n jailbreak for iOS 7, allowing Apple users with newer devices like the iPhone 5s, 5c, and Retina iPad mini to jailbreak their devices for the first time to access tweaks and apps outside of the App Store.

Shortly after the jailbreak was released to the public, controversy surfaced with Cydia administrator Jay Freeman noting that evasi0n did not include an official version of Cydia, an iOS application that allows users to install software on jailbroken devices. Freeman also revealed that the jailbreak inexplicably included a third party app store called "Taig" for Chinese users.

The Taig app store was quickly found to include pirated apps, prompting the evad3rs to explain their position via an open letter claiming no knowledge of the piracy and pledging to further investigate the issue.

Now the evad3rs have published a second open letter to the jailbreak community, announcing the removal of the Taig app store from the evasi0n jailbreak.
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However, after investigation and after notification from the community, we found examples, including pirated tweaks, Apple App Store apps, and even pod2g's PodDJ app. We dropped the ball on this. While we at first did not believe Taig purposefully violated our agreement, the depth of the transgression against the software developers and the jailbreak community cannot be overlooked and we could not move forward after that even if it were fixed.

We terminated our relationship with them. We are very disappointed that they have decided to put up a cracked version of the jailbreak on their site that installs Taig. We did not give them any permission or source code.
Following the controversy, there were rumors that the evad3rs had accepted money from Taig for the deal, which the evad3rs now deny. "We have received no money from any group, including Taig," reads the letter. "Our donations are being given to Public Knowledge, Electronic Frontier Foundation and Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure to help protect jailbreaking as your legal right."

The evad3rs team also clarifies that no user data was obtained by Taig, and that exposure was limited to users who had their computer's language set to Chinese.

The evasi0n jailbreak, which no longer includes Taig, can be downloaded directly from the evasi0n website. Evasi0n does not include an official version of Cydia, and according to the evad3rs, they are "working hard to fix the problems with the jailbreak."

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Old Dec 26, 2013, 09:38 AM   #2
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No doubt the usual lot will be here to defend them shortly - but this is what happens when greed gets in the way of things.

What happened to the old jailbreak community I was a part of a few years back? We used to trust each other back then.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 09:41 AM   #3
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I would never jailbreak my phone....but if I were....I would think that "Trust" would be one of the most important qualities in performing this...seems to me that was broken...
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 09:41 AM   #4
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No doubt the usual lot will be here to defend them shortly - but this is what happens when greed gets in the way of things.

What happened to the old jailbreak community I was a part of a few years back? We used to trust each other back then.
You used to develop tools to jailbreak iDevices?
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 09:42 AM   #5
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Thanks for the jailbreak guys but why the hell didn't you wait for 7.1? Could you explain that in your open letter.....?
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 09:46 AM   #6
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Thanks for the jailbreak guys but why the hell didn't you wait for 7.1? Could you explain that in your open letter.....?
Agreed.

Above all, this whole situation damages the jailbreaking communities image by the public.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 09:48 AM   #7
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With every big jailbreak, there is always so much drama.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 09:50 AM   #8
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With every big jailbreak, there is always so much drama.
Has it ever been this bad though?
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 09:51 AM   #9
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I jailbroke my phone last time around, but I am passing on this and probably won't jailbreak again.

The bugginess, instability and security risks just aren't worth it to me.

I like iOS7 just fine as is.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 09:53 AM   #10
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I'm looking forward to jailbreaking again - but not through these guys.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 09:54 AM   #11
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I'm looking forward to jailbreaking again - but not through these guys.
Good luck with that. Who else is working on an iOS 7 jailbreak?
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 09:58 AM   #12
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It's been displayed on reddit that without Taig even being installed, the jailbreak still regularly made contact with the Chinese site. No thanks, I'll keep my iPad unmolested. Not to mention these guys probably ruined any chance of having jailbreak for final 7.1. They used up valuable exploits on a beta. AND they didn't include saurik in its development, so now a lot of vital tools are broken or unsupported. But hay at least we did it first yay. Slow claps.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 10:01 AM   #13
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Please make iOS 6 UI for iOS7
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 10:03 AM   #14
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Thanks for the jailbreak guys but why the hell didn't you wait for 7.1? Could you explain that in your open letter.....?
Because they got a million dollar payday to release it NOW.

So now we're screwed since Apple knows the exploits and will patch them before 7.1.

Ridiculous.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 10:05 AM   #15
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Wow. Backtrack much?
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 10:09 AM   #16
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I'm looking forward to jailbreaking again - but not through these guys.
There is no one else. Pretty much all jailbreakers have focused on evasi0n for this time around.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 10:09 AM   #17
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But . . .

But you have a contract with Taig that says they won't do pirating on their site. How is it possible that they are in fact doing whatever they want? Oh yeah, you have absolutely no means of effectively enforcing that contract on a Chinese located company. Sorry.

And they stole your code? I'm shocked, schocked I say.

Seriously, if you left any of your devices unattended during any face to face meetings, I'd just get them wiped right now.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 10:09 AM   #18
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I thought jailbreaks offered skins/themes?
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 10:13 AM   #20
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While the original release was handled badly and was a real problem, this is a nonissue now. I say this as someone who bashed Evaders previously (see my post history). Ultimately, yes they failed to do their research on the company but the company went back on their contractual obligations.

They've addressed the issues openly and publicly, and it's been verified there's nothing hidden in there.

As to what they didn't wait until 7.1? Geohot was ready to come back and sell the (stolen) exploits himself so they beat him to the punch. A jailbreak was going to come out before 7.1 one way or another.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 10:13 AM   #21
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It was a deal gone bad, these guys are a bunch of lieng hypocrites, they keep contradicting themselves over and over again it's just pathetic now. If no money was involved why would they even bundle TaiG? If the community didn't react they would have kept it, got paid and made a fortune.

According to one of the JB heavyweights each jailbreak nets around 100$K from donations, they just got greedy and wanted much more which is outrageous given that their entire revenue is based on exploiting a mobile operating system and imo the only money they deserve to earn is the money they need to cover hosting fees and everything related, nothing else.

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It's been displayed on reddit that without Taig even being installed, the jailbreak still regularly made contact with the Chinese site. No thanks, I'll keep my iPad unmolested. Not to mention these guys probably ruined any chance of having jailbreak for final 7.1. They used up valuable exploits on a beta. AND they didn't include saurik in its development, so now a lot of vital tools are broken or unsupported. But hay at least we did it first yay. Slow claps.

iOS 7.1 is months away. And there was competition with having a jailbreak as soon as possible with Geohot being in the mix. If it wasn't evad3rs it would certainly had been Geohot.

I honestly, believe this was blown out of proportion. It was miscommunication among evad3rs and the public. If they announced the details beforehand it wouldn't not had led to this much drama. I've been jailbreaking for years.. And having programming experience, I can only imagine how much hours has been put into it. And Saurik will eventually get a working Mobile Substrate, which he is currently working on. My iPad Air is jailbroken... Did it hours before the initial release.. I feel liberated :-) Haha..
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 10:18 AM   #23
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Why would anybody want that?
Cause iOS7 looks like a 2 year old crayoned it??
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 10:30 AM   #24
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Cause iOS7 looks like a 2 year old crayoned it??
This doesn't even come close to answering his question.
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What did they expect when they got into bed with a Chinese company??
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