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Old Dec 27, 2013, 09:52 AM   #1
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Nokia Pulls 'HERE' Maps App for iOS, Citing iOS 7 Changes That 'Harm the User Experience'




In the wake of a rocky launch of Apple's mapping services as part of iOS 6 last year, Nokia debuted its own iOS app bringing its "HERE" maps to the platform in the form of a free app. Based on the NAVTEQ mapping data used in many vehicle navigation devices, the HERE iOS app included a number of features including offline mode and transit and walking directions.

Earlier this month, HERE quietly disappeared from the App Store, and The Indian Express reports (via Engadget) that Nokia has now issued a statement blaming unspecified changes in iOS 7 for driving the company's decision to remove the app.
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When approached for a comment, a Nokia spokesperson sent The Indian Express an official statement. It read, "We have made the decision to remove our HERE Maps app from the Apple App Store because recent changes to iOS 7 harm the user experience. iPhone users can continue to use the mobile web version of HERE Maps under m.here.com., offering them core location needs, such as search, routing, orientation, transit information and more, all completely free of charge."
As the report notes, the HERE iOS app was not particularly well received by users, having suffered from a number of bugs and received no updates during its year on the App Store. Consequently, it seems likely that poor adoption and an unwillingness by Nokia to invest significant effort in fixing the app's issues played significant roles in HERE's demise on iOS as well.

Without more information from Nokia, however, the exact set of circumstances leading to the removal of HERE remains unclear, and it is unknown exactly what changes in iOS 7 the company is referring to in its statement. Some users have criticized the look and feel of the redesigned operating system, with some usability issues also having been raised.

The dramatic design change in iOS 7 has also led many third-party developers to invest significant resources in redesigning their own apps to match the new aesthetic, and perhaps Nokia simply felt that it did not want to commit to make the necessary changes and improvements to its iOS app in order to attract and retain users.

Article Link: Nokia Pulls 'HERE' Maps App for iOS, Citing iOS 7 Changes That 'Harm the User Experience'
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Old Dec 27, 2013, 09:54 AM   #2
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Old Dec 27, 2013, 09:54 AM   #3
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All I read was "Unwillingness to change to consumers requests". Seems to be a pretty common thing in the Nokia brass
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Old Dec 27, 2013, 09:55 AM   #4
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I don't think anyone will miss this. The 'HERE' maps app was pretty bad.

It's ironic that Nokia are complaining about iOS 7's user experience when their own app was so awful.

The real reason they're pulling it is that hardly anyone was using it.
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I wonder if anyone on iOS even used this, I have a Windows Phone myself and really like the Here apps from Nokia. Here drive took a bit to get used to but overall I now like it almost as much as Google maps, don't have an iPhone so I can't speak for Apples maps.
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Old Dec 27, 2013, 09:56 AM   #7
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What a bunch of crap. It's not IOS 7 that's harming the experience, it's Nokia's lack of commitment to update their apps for iOS.

They simply want to focus on their own platforms rather than their competitors. That's understandable and they can easily say that, but there's no need to push the blame aside, it just makes you look childish.
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Old Dec 27, 2013, 09:56 AM   #8
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just look at that UI .... total 2005 vibe. Nokias failure in the phone business makes so much sense.
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Old Dec 27, 2013, 09:56 AM   #9
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...iPhone users can continue to use the mobile web version of HERE Maps under m.here.com.
Thank goodness for that :roll eyes:

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I wonder if anyone on iOS even used this, I have a Windows Phone myself and really like the Here apps from Nokia.
I doubt it.

It's not fruity enough for most of the people who come to these forums.
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Old Dec 27, 2013, 09:57 AM   #11
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Lmao, yeah okay. Probably Microsofts decision more than it was Nokias decision. They wanted it exclusive to the WP experience even though the app is terrible.
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If only there was a way for developers to test their apps in upcoming iOS updates before they came out so this didn't happen.....

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"Our ****ty app with a ****ty user experience was so ****ty that we decided to discontinue it in order to offer an even ****tier user experience that takes less time from our developers. But hey, let's blame iOS 7 harming the user experience, even though we could have never used iOS 7 APIs like Google is doing."

Way to gain credibility, Nokia.

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All I read was "Unwillingness to change to consumers requests". Seems to be a pretty common thing in the Nokia brass
And apple change their mind every week? :P
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Sure, when all your efforts to make a popular app fail, blame iOS7 and quit.

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I doubt it.

It's not fruity enough for most of the people who come to these forums.
If by "fruity" you mean "useful", I totally agree. If not, please go back to your bridge.
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This is the first time I've even heard of the app.
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"Our ****ty app with a ****ty user experience was so ****ty that we decided to discontinue it in order to offer an even ****tier user experience. But hey, let's blame iOS and its user experience."
Ecactly, they have the dev kit for the new ios, they just have to adapt like every other developer. Regardless of whether or not people like iOS 7 in general, all third party apps have adjusted very well all things considered.
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I just wish Apple would get rid of the terrible apps that haven't been updated for years/don't work....
EG just automatically get rid of apps that haven't been updated for 2 years or longer etc.
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This is the first time I've even heard of the app.
I think their is at least 2 levels of irony in that fact.
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Sure, when all your efforts to make a popular app fail, blame iOS7 and quit.



If by "fruity" you mean "useful", I totally agree. If not, please go back to your bridge.
Go to any thread on here that isn't about Apple and you'll get crowds of people spewing massive hate. I don't know if you knew this, but this site has a massive amount of fanboys.
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The only thing harming the user experience is their poor UX design.
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I just wish Apple would get rid of the terrible apps that haven't been updated for years/don't work....
EG just automatically get rid of apps that haven't been updated for 2 years or longer etc.
Well some apps from the days of yore are still functional, and people with older ios devices still need them. I'd say apple could be stricter with dev's on scheduled updates in relation new ios revisions. Perhaps they should at least offer incentives for those that do keep their software updated.
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Does there really need to be another map app though, honestly?
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This is the first time I've even heard of the app.
I downloaded it just after the iOS 6/Maps 'debacle' just out of curiosity. Tried it once.... Hold/Squiggle/Delete.
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Go to any thread on here that isn't about Apple and you'll get crowds of people spewing massive hate. I don't know if you knew this, but this site has a massive amount of fanboys.
This site has sickening degrees of one sidedness on the apple side alright, I'm here two years and belive me I've noticed!
But virtually anywhere else even mentioning you use an apple product results in getting berated with abuse. I try to keep an open mind but I think apple make some very cool stuff, and I especially love really old Apple ii's and vintage 80's macintoshs. I use an iphone and mac today, but I use a pc for gaming and I think windows 7 is a pretty darn stable OS. I virtually never have issue with it like, just like my mac. No system is flawless. On the mobile side, android is more customisable and has far more features across the board. Oddly enough the iphone 5s actually beats all other android phone right now in raw processing power, but this is not usually the case. iOS is restricted and simpler, but I use it for daily calling, texting, light gaming, web browsing etc. my iphone excels in these areas. If I want to do server management or music production I'll sit at my mac. Any messing around with software I'll do on my pc as well. Also my iphone works fluidly with iTunes for music management, even over wifi. I have yet to see such a reliable and effortless music organisation system from any other company.

I think most people that hate on other systems haven't really used them much. Almost evey OS has its advantages.
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