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Old Jan 2, 2014, 09:22 AM   #1
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Early 'iWatch' Production Seeing Poor Yields Due to Issues with Body Finish Treatments?




While Apple's long-rumored "iWatch" may be one of the products to look for in 2014, several rumors have suggested that the device is unlikely to launch until the latter half of the year as the company works to address technical challenges.

A new report from DigiTimes claims that one of those issues involves surface finish treatments for the body of the device, with both Apple and Qualcomm searching for ways to improve the look of chassis parts made using metal injection molding (MIM) methods.
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Several wearable devices such as Apple's iWatch and Qualcomm's Toq are reportedly seeing less than 50% yield rates due to difficulties applying surface treatments on their metal injection molded (MIM) chassis, according to sources from the upstream supply chain. [...]

MIM-made components used to be used inside products, but as the components are now becoming part of the external design, surface treatments have become an important process for the look of products.
Qualcomm's Toq smart watch
Metal injection molding may sound very similar to what Apple is trying to achieve with Liquidmetal alloys, but there are distinct differences between the technologies, with MIM involving powdered metals that are combined with binder materials and placed into molds before being heated to very high temperatures to solidify while Liquidmetal alloys are heated to a molten state before being formed using molds and allowed to cool.

Liquidmetal Technologies argues that its alloys and processes offer significant advantages over MIM, including greater precision in molding shapes while offering higher strength, hardness, elasticity, and corrosion resistance than with typical metals. But while MIM is an established production process, Liquidmetal technology remains under development and its inventors have indicated that it will still be several years before it it can be used to produce major parts for Apple's products.

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Edit it's qualcomms
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While Apple's long-rumored "iWatch" may be one of the products to look for in 2014 …
I second that. It's hour favourite product to watch for.

(Okay, groan. It must be late.)
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Old Jan 2, 2014, 09:28 AM   #4
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I rather see the launch of a proper looking and working iWatch in 2015 then a half working product with lot's of issues in 2014.

My advice to apple, bring it on the market only when it's truly remarkable and ready for use with a solid battery life among with great functionalities.
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That sounds like it could be a huge problem for production.

How many here can't wait for the iWatch?
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Yay more hearsay with no credible source!
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Old Jan 2, 2014, 09:29 AM   #8
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Not really an aesthetically pleasing mockup.
Probably because it's not a mockup and it is a real product from Qualcomm, as mentioned in the image's caption. Here's the product link: http://toq.qualcomm.com
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I rather see the launch of a proper looking and working iWatch in 2015 then a half working product with lot's of issues in 2014.

My advice to apple, bring it on the market only when it's truly remarkable and ready for use with a solid battery life among with great functionalities.
Pretty sure your advise for Apple is what they've almost always done.

They weren't the first MP3 player. They took their time to make it better. They weren't the first smartphone on the market. Again they took their time. They weren't the first tablet on the market....
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Don't worry Apple, take your time. Get it right. Don't pull a Samsung. They will be watching.
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Probably because it's not a mockup and it is a real product from Qualcomm, as mentioned in the image's caption. Here's the product link: http://toq.qualcomm.com
l just realized that, at first I just glanced at the photo on my phone and went blah.
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Apple's purchase of Liquidmetal's production rights is looking like a waste of funds. The only use, and that was very limited, was for the SIMM ejection tool (yawn).

Thus far, the use of the stuff is always several years away according to the "experts".
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I second that. It's hour favourite product to watch for.

(Okay, groan. It must be late.)
I can't believe you took the time to write that...


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Yay more hearsay with no credible source!
But they need something for the front page. Mac Pro is probably getting boring at this point.
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I rather see the launch of a proper looking and working iWatch in 2015 then a half working product with lot's of issues in 2014.

My advice to apple, bring it on the market only when it's truly remarkable and ready for use with a solid battery life among with great functionalities.
It's not going to take Apple a year to fix a minor production problem.
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It's not going to take Apple a year to fix a minor production problem.
You're right.... Foxconn will fix it.

ZING!!!
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It's the white iPhone all over again!
Don't forget the black iPhone 5.
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It's not going to take Apple a year to fix a minor production problem.
This is just a rumor, the real issue is probably battery life! Buy the way does anyone know what the battery like of this Qualcom Toq watch is? Is it more than a couple of days? A week? Two weeks? A year?
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Would the iWatch or any smart watch going to be useful at all?
I mean you already have your smart phone with you at all times.. why would you flip your wrist to look at your watch when you can just dig into your pocket and look at your phone with a bigger screen?
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I cant believe this iWatch **** is still flying around. It seems useless as hell.
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Would the iWatch or any smart watch going to be useful at all?
I mean you already have your smart phone with you at all times.. why would you flip your wrist to look at your watch when you can just dig into your pocket and look at your phone with a bigger screen?
It will most likely have other uses as well.
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You're right.... Foxconn will fix it.

ZING!!!
Or not, given how the white iPhone was delayed for what, half a year?
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I haven't exactly seen the Smart Watch devices take off for any other company. Samsung has had to get its provider company partners to push the SWatches hard alongside their phones.

Really is about functionality, battery life, and connivance.

Personally I can't stand wrist watches. They always made my wrist chafe, so I can't really follow the appeal of a "smart" one. It would just end up in my pocket anyways.
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Would the iWatch or any smart watch going to be useful at all? I mean you already have your smart phone with you at all times.. why would you flip your wrist to look at your watch when you can just dig into your pocket and look at your phone with a bigger screen?
Because it's easier to just flip your wrist instead of digging into your pocket.

Oh sure it's not too difficult to dig your phone out of your pocket... I do it 1000 times a day.

But with a smartwatch... I might only dig my phone out 500 times a day.

Personally... I dig my phone out of my pocket quite often to check the time. Whoa!
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