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I keep asking... if you're not one then what are you doing here? I don't hang out on Samsung/Android forums...
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Apple and Samsung CEOs Agree to Mediation Meeting in U.S. Patent Fight
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*shock* applerumors.com has Apple fanboys?
I keep asking... if you're not one then what are you doing here? I don't hang out on Samsung/Android forums...
Its not all open and shut as you may think:
http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/samsung-pre-iphone-designs.png
Samsung did have full screen phone designs before the iPhone.
Should Braun start suing Apple, due to very similar designs?
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/apple-design-doesnt-fall-far-from-brauns-tree-176668
http://www.cultofmac.com/188753/the-braun-products-that-inspired-apples-iconic-designs-gallery/
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On balance, I'm thinking Samsung did overly copy Apple, i.e., the side by side comparison of Air vs Samsung device.
Regardless... this case has dragged itself long enough. The Court process is too slow, so mediation is a good alternative to find a faster resolution.
http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/samsung-pre-iphone-designs.png
Samsung did have full screen phone designs before the iPhone.
Should Braun start suing Apple, due to very similar designs?
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/apple-design-doesnt-fall-far-from-brauns-tree-176668
http://www.cultofmac.com/188753/the-braun-products-that-inspired-apples-iconic-designs-gallery/
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On balance, I'm thinking Samsung did overly copy Apple, i.e., the side by side comparison of Air vs Samsung device.
Regardless... this case has dragged itself long enough. The Court process is too slow, so mediation is a good alternative to find a faster resolution.
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100000000000000% untrue. I guess u never owned one. You get way more bang for your buck with a Hyundai that any other cars on the planet. This is coming from a BMW enthusiast.
There's nothing bad about this - they should be trying to mediate instead of going to court whenever possible.
On the point of some of those pictures posted earlier - specifically the iPad vs Samsung's previous tablets.
Are people really that ignorant to not realize that technology changes. It's now much more economical and feasible to have thinner screens, chips, etc - so of course devices are going to take advantage and be thinner and adapt to user trends.
All companies take advantage of newest technologies. You can't compare a device from 1987 to 2014 (just an example) and claim that they are equiv.
On the point of some of those pictures posted earlier - specifically the iPad vs Samsung's previous tablets.
Are people really that ignorant to not realize that technology changes. It's now much more economical and feasible to have thinner screens, chips, etc - so of course devices are going to take advantage and be thinner and adapt to user trends.
All companies take advantage of newest technologies. You can't compare a device from 1987 to 2014 (just an example) and claim that they are equiv.
While some of the comparisons definitely show influences in basic shapes and materials - and more, in the case of the calculator - I'll always ask myself how drunk someone has to be to compare the Braun speaker to the iMac. It's pretty bizarre...
Its back to the basic fact that every company gets inspiration from others. Apple did not come up with its designs by living in a silo, they are influenced
That applies to Samsung, and any other company.
The links you offer as apple copying Samsung or Braun(laughable) really fall apart when you actually look at the pictures/timelines and fucntions of the so-called copied designs.
There is no doubt that Samsung copied the iPhone/iPad and even the mbp due to the popularity of the Apple products.
But this is nothing new since samsung did this same with BB, and even early windows phones, nokia etc. Long before Apple became a player in the smart phone arena.
Um, "the public" doesn't care about this trial nor are they even in the loop about it. If you go around and ask people who have iPhones on the bus to tell them about this trial, most would not know or care to know what it's about. It's only on Apple sites that it seems like "everyone knows" and this huge big thing.
It depends on how it's worded. If there was any disagreement, it would be because Apple believe Samsung to be violating that clause (and cloning their products) while Samsung does not. There would have to be some kind of definition in there, but since it's confidential we don't know the exact terms.
Also, what remedies would be available to Apple, even if they prove breach of contract in such an event? They wouldn't be able to stop the infringement without firing up the patent lawsuits again (and starting from scratch). Fines don't mean anything when you're talking about massive, massively profitable companies such as Apple and Samsung.
Really? Is this the new key card for this year? No 'fanboy', no admission? Wow! Keep on asking dude
Uh... wow, I think. That's a lot of heck of a lot of hyperbole contained in one post. I think consensus says the Galaxy S was a pretty blatant copy. But I would say more of their success came from that crap ton of cash they threw into marketing. Now their products are more differentiated, with a noticeable exception of the Ultrabooks. Samsung, along with every other vendor seems to use the MBA as a reference for the look and feel of their products - ultrabooks. Google "Laptops that look like the MacBook Air". But this is phones and tablets. No one's products look like Apple's anymore.
As usual with us on MacRumors, your car analogy fails spectacularly. But that's okay. We know what we know, the rest is just window dressing.
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Pretty much every Ultrabook looks like an MBA. Google "Laptops that look like a MacBook Air". For better or worse, the MBA is the reference.
Samsung HAS changed, they are now copying Windows 8
Windows 8, sure but what about the hardware?
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Samsung is very innovative (at copying off Apple)
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Hey, look at me, I'm an Apple fan boy!
Save the name-calling.. Can't a person agree that Apple is being ripped-off without being called names?
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1. How does one decide that the case has dragged itself long enough?
2. What would make one think that mediation will work this time?
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There is inspiration, then there is blatant copying.
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Let's just say, in the world of patents, inspiration is not a virtue..
Actually, Hyundai has risen way up the reliability and performance ladder with most of their models. I guess they copied that part, too. The magic reliability changeover occurred around 2003, it was really quite dramatic, considering how entirely crappy their cars were before then.
Korean gear has definitely improved... but it has gone from being dangerously poor quality to slightly below average quality. I remember renting a Hyundai Excel while on holidays in 1996... the car had done less than 10,000km and was already falling apart. Recently I test-drove an i30... it's no Toyota (felt flimsy/handled poorly), but at least it wasn't falling apart in the showroom.
Really? Is this the new key card for this year? No 'fanboy', no admission? Wow! Keep on asking dude
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As has always been the case with Apple... it's such a polarizing company that not only the fans care about it, but everybody else does too.
Example... the forums for my footy team aren't strictly for fans (anybody can join) but who else cares about the team's rumours/performance? We won the premiership in 2013 so a lot of people from other teams get jelly and post BS (just like fandroids do when Apple is making the best phones/laptops).
You can't ban these guys from either forum, but just saying... if you go to an Apple rumours site, you can probably expect there to be a lot of Apple fanboys lurking around. Other examples:
- Go to a heavy metal club... there will probably be a lot of guys hanging around in black shirts who love heavy metal. You can go there and tell them you love Hanson + metal heads s*ck. Good luck!
- You can wear your favourite footy team's gear in the opposition's stands and stand around cheering for them, nobody will stop you! BUT... why?
- You're welcome to attend a republican meeting in Texas wearing a t-shirt with Che Guevara's face on it and a few pro-marxism flags... great place to discuss marxism.
Get my point? It's a free world... nobody's stopping Fandroids from going to applerumors.com BUT I would suggest that there are better forums if you don't like Apple gear and would prefer to discuss Fandroid OS/Chromebooks.
I'm proudly an Apple fanboy, not sure why you were so surprised that there's a lot of us here at applerumors.com.
You assume a lot but know little about me. And with that you make my point perfectly. Do you really think I joined 7 years ago so now I can pose as an Apple fan (less 'boy') but in reality I'm a 'fandroid'? Did you bother to read the remark I was responding to? It's remarks like that, that make people who really care about Apple products look bad. Blindly firing off silly statements about who is currently the flavour of the day in 'fanboy' land. Just to gain brownie points. That sir, just puts a lot of salt in my coffee. You can sigh all you want but you couldn't be more wrong about me in a thousand years. Peace out.
I never said people didn't get a bang for their buck with Hyundais. You'll get a car with similar styling/specs (and more gimmicks/gadgets) than a Toyota for $10,000 less EASILY. BUT like Samsung... I don't think the quality/engineering is there.
Korean goods have come a long way, but they're nothing like Japanese brands and the good American brands.
My analogy stands. Hyundai... an i40 will sell for $10,000 less than a Camry. You'll get a V6, leather seats, alloy rims, electric everything, android/iPhone connectivity...etc great bang for your buck! Samsung... you'll pay $200 less than an iPhone but get a quad-core CPU, more RAM, a bigger HD...etc again a decent bang for your buck.
Difference? In both situations the Korean brand is less reliable, less refined and of a much poorer build quality BUT in terms of features/gimmicks you'll probably get a better bang for your buck.
I have a Samsung fridge that I got for $300... it's the same size as $1000 competitors and has similar features. Decent bang for my buck (good balance of price/features), but that doesn't make it the best fridge in its range. There are better fridges out there that cost more and if I could afford one, I'd get it.
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What is your point then? Chronology...
1) You complained that somebody was a fanboy.
2) I told you there's probably going to be a bunch of fanboys around an Apple rumors site... live with it.
3) You complained that you didn't need to be a fan to enter this forum and reserved the right to not be a fan.
4) I told you that I'm cool with that, but if you're not a big fan of Apple then there's possibly better places to be.
5) You had a big whinge that I'm 'blindly firing off silly statements' in order to 'gain brownie points'.
You conclude that I 'couldn't be more wrong about me in a thousand years'. Again I'm sorry for assuming that there's a lot of Apple fanboys floating around an Apple rumours site. I guess it will take me 1000 years to figure out why that assumption is wrong, until then peace and love my brother
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What is your point then? Chronology...
1) You complained that somebody was a fanboy.
2) I told you there's probably going to be a bunch of fanboys around an Apple rumors site... live with it.
3) You complained that you didn't need to be a fan to enter this forum and reserved the right to not be a fan.
4) I told you that I'm cool with that, but if you're not a big fan of Apple then there's possibly better places to be.
5) You had a big whinge that I'm 'blindly firing off silly statements' in order to 'gain brownie points'.
You conclude that I 'couldn't be more wrong about me in a thousand years'. Again I'm sorry for assuming that there's a lot of Apple fanboys floating around an Apple rumours site. I guess it will take me 1000 years to figure out why that assumption is wrong, until then peace and love my brother
You really don't get it, do you? And you really need a lot of words to show that. Don't bother to reply, I'm just a dumb guy using Apple products since 1982.
As for Hyundai I can speak from experience can you? They are built just as well as Toyota if not better. And what gimmicks are you talking about?