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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:15 PM   #51
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Will we ever see OS 11? Or is it gonna go as far as OS X 10.99?
Honestly why does it matter what they call it / name it?
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:15 PM   #52
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At least call it "10.9.5".

I'd expect this from maybe Tupperware, or Victoria's Secret (the next generation of our best bra ever!), but not an engineering/tech company.

Basic math, Apple. You're not gonna keep the education market like this...

OTOH, there's no such thing as bad publicity, right?
Educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:15 PM   #53
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I doubt that's a consideration for Apple. iPad 2 and iPad mini without retina still run iOS 7.
True, but I think it's hard to argue that iOS 7 was designed with retina in mind. Excluding iOS 7 for the iPad mini and 2 would have been worse than having them look not quite as good. Similarly, Apple won't make an iOS 7-ized OS X only for retina macs.

That said, iCloud.com already looks like iOS 7 so I'm probably wrong.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:15 PM   #54
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I hope they make it exactly like iOS 7 for continuity's sake. Why go in these incremental steps when it's obvious that they will eventually shift to iOS' look entirely?
that isnt obvious at all. as theyve stated before, desktop and mobile are two different use cases, each w/ its own design solution.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:16 PM   #55
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Disappointing. I want a full on iOS 7 look for 10.10.
This. It only makes sense.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:16 PM   #56
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We can already see some direction to this in XCode 5.


XCode 4 looks better IMO.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:17 PM   #57
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At least call it "10.9.5".

I'd expect this from maybe Tupperware, or Victoria's Secret (the next generation of our best bra ever!), but not an engineering/tech company.

Basic math, Apple. You're not gonna keep the education market like this...

OTOH, there's no such thing as bad publicity, right?
Software version numbers are NOT decimal numbers.
Because if they were, 10.9.1 would not work. Also, if that applied, wouldn't 10.10.1 be different than 10.1.1? Of course.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:17 PM   #58
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Howzabout fixing 10.9 before we get too caught up in 10.10

10.9, for many of us, has considerable issues. The 10.9.1 release was a 'Mem' moment for those of us in this camp. So, come on Apple, fix 10.9!
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:17 PM   #59
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:17 PM   #60
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I love the look of OS X. I remember Jony Ive once saying something like "When you see a very well-designed object, you think 'of course it's that way, why would it be any other way?". That's how I feel about OS X. And that's definitely not how I feel about iOS 7...
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:17 PM   #61
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Whenever I see 10.10 I cringe, 10.10=10.1
Sorry but 10.10 is not the same as 10.1

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11

I don't see 1 being the same as 10 in that sequence so please leave it )
or you think that we will have 10.9; 10.1 and then 10.11? Please!
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:17 PM   #62
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I would like them to focus on reliability and making the OS more efficient. I can't stand how much of a resource hog OSX has become.
On what machines? Newer all-Flash Macs are slick. Nothing slows 'em down. Could that be the problem, you need a newer machine?

One of the biggest factors in speed is network communications. Today's computers, and especially Mavericks, are practically 100% reliant on the Internet to get stuff done, at least that's how it's designed. I can't imagine what a Mac is like without iCloud integration. That seems so foreign to me.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:17 PM   #63
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At least call it "10.9.5".

I'd expect this from maybe Tupperware, or Victoria's Secret (the next generation of our best bra ever!), but not an engineering/tech company.

Basic math, Apple. You're not gonna keep the education market like this...

OTOH, there's no such thing as bad publicity, right?

Again, that goes for actual numbers, but not software releases. As an earlier commentator pointed out, you have software updates like 4.3.1 which make no sense on a number line.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:18 PM   #64
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Same ol' incremental update if this is accurate. I know a company can't release groundbreaking in ovation every year but I'm getting a little bored as of late with the standard product updates. iOS 7s interface was a much needed overhaul but not much else has changed lately. I'll still stick with Apple for the foreseeable future but I am definitely bored.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:19 PM   #65
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Macrumors should bother to state that this isn't a report by 9to5Mac but rather a rare opinion piece by the ever-reliable Mark Gurman. It should also be said that iCloud.com's redesign somewhat contradicts his opinion.
Exactly. How this makes the front page I’ll never know.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:19 PM   #66
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I'm okay with this. Why am I always in the minority with UI changes and Apple. I'm kinda sick of the round bubbly icons. The age of the Aqua interface is dead people, get over it.

If anything, be more upset that they're releasing the OS with the 10.10 stepping. Ugh.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:20 PM   #67
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I'd really welcome a design change on OS X, but not identical to iOS
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:20 PM   #68
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UGH!!!


Enough of this "Flat" ugliness already!!!!

I hope they make HUGE changes to OSX. I want a cleaner UI.

You people with your desperate clinging to hideous skeumorphic principles. Maybe the save icon should still be a floppy disk, and the iTunes icon a CD. So that way senior citizens will know what the icons are for.

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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:20 PM   #69
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I have no problems with a flatter look. Besides it will probably be a free upgrade. You can't complain with FREE
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:20 PM   #70
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Software version numbers is NOT the same as decimal numbers.
MacOS X 10.4.11 caused problems for some devs who expected for example 10.4.6 or newer and used code that decided that 10.4.11 was obviously slightly older than 10.4.2 Hope that won't happen with 10.10.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:20 PM   #71
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No, it isn't. iOS had a congruent design language with OSX until iOS 7. They will make both iOS and OSX congruent in design once again in the near future. Come back to me in a year and a half or so and we can chat about who's right.
There has never been complete congruity with Apple UI across iOS, iCloud.com, and OS X. The best you can say is that they used the same icons/textures but that's about it.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:21 PM   #72
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as a user, how is that so? how is the file system letting me down and how would my experience be better w/ a new one?
Continuous integrity checking and automatic repair.

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iOS had a congruent design language with OSX
He didn't say "congruent design language", he said "shift to iOS' look entirely" which I wouldn't consider the same thing. Looks that are complimentary to each other, sure but not the same look.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:21 PM   #73
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Why not OS XI? 10.10 just seems bizarre.

Also, while the "flat" craze looks nice, there will come a time sooner or later that designers say "Wow, that shape would look even better with a drop shadow and lighting gradient." Design is cyclical.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:22 PM   #74
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Hmm this seems more like an opinion piece from Gurman, not that he has inside information from someone at Apple. MR should update the title to reflect that.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:22 PM   #75
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how 'bout "OS X X.X"
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