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Old Feb 17, 2014, 10:54 AM   #1
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Samsung Reportedly Drops Out of Apple's A8 Chip Production Over Low Yields




Apple may rely on Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing (TSMC) for the entirety of its A8 processor production in 2014, claims a report from TechNews Taiwan [Google Translate] (via G 4 Games). Samsung allegedly was dropped as a manufacturer because of low yields in its 20 nm manufacturing process for the A-series processor, while TSMC was able to meet Apple's demands.

The Wall Street Journal reported back in June 2013 that TSMC may provide some A-series chips for the Apple's iOS devices in a manufacturing agreement starting in 2014. TSMC was expected to handle up to 70 percent of the manufacturing load, while Samsung would pick up the rest. Production problems may, however, have resulted in Samsung being removed completely from the A8 supply chain.

According to the report, this shift away from Samsung for the A8 processor is not expected to affect production of the A9 processor in 2015. An earlier report suggested Samsung and TSMC may share the production of the A9, with Samsung supplying approximately 40% of Apple's 14-nm A9 chip family in 2015. This latest report claims Apple may start A9 production with TSMC and its 16 nm process and then shift to Samsung and its 14 nm process when the Korean company can meet demand.

Apple's A8 chip is expected to make its public appearance later this year in new iPhone and iPad models.

Article Link: Samsung Reportedly Drops Out of Apple's A8 Chip Production Over Low Yields
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Old Feb 17, 2014, 10:57 AM   #2
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My brain tells me this is probably a bad thing, but my inner fanboy disagrees
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Old Feb 17, 2014, 10:58 AM   #3
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For some reason I think that Samesung will be able to meet demands for themselves at the 20nm process.
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Old Feb 17, 2014, 10:58 AM   #4
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Apple will move away from Samsung sooner or later.

When that happens, Samsung will no longer have the advantage over other Android makers on knowing what Apple is going to make.
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Old Feb 17, 2014, 10:58 AM   #5
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Sounds like Apple might be dumping Samsung for good. As long as Apple experiences no delays in chip supply, should be a good thing in the long run.
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Old Feb 17, 2014, 11:00 AM   #6
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Old Feb 17, 2014, 11:03 AM   #7
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They should sue eachother
Samsung and Apple sue each other? Meh, that will never happen. Dream on!
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Old Feb 17, 2014, 11:05 AM   #8
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Samsung provides better materials for the most part on Apple devices. A lot of other suppliers caused issues - making Apple replace or go back to Samsung on certain things.
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Am I the only one who thinks TSMC has a horrible logo?

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Old Feb 17, 2014, 11:08 AM   #10
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Am I the only one who thinks TSMC has a horrible logo?

Hahaha I agree. They are really keeping the 80's theme going.
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Am I the only one who thinks TSMC has a horrible logo?

No.
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Old Feb 17, 2014, 11:13 AM   #12
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Am I the only one who thinks TSMC has a horrible logo?
It's a logo that fits one hundred percent with what the company does. All their customers know that. Your opinion alone makes it clear that you are not their customer.
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Am I the only one who thinks TSMC has a horrible logo?

They have horrible quality control, that's for sure
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Am I the only one who thinks TSMC has a horrible logo?

They are focusing on a new logo instead of chip production
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Samsung provides better materials for the most part on Apple devices. A lot of other suppliers caused issues - making Apple replace or go back to Samsung on certain things.
With Samsung responsible for less than 9% of the components in any Apple device, I'm not sure where you're getting this from.
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Apple will move away from Samsung sooner or later.

When that happens, Samsung will no longer have the advantage over other Android makers on knowing what Apple is going to make.
There's "supposed" to be an NDA between Samsung Manufacturing and Samsung Electronics. But we now all know from Samsung's Senior Management that "everything leaks."
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Taiwan's logo industry trails their microchip industry by a sizable margin.
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Apple will move away from Samsung sooner or later.

When that happens, Samsung will no longer have the advantage over other Android makers on knowing what Apple is going to make.
What if I told you that, currently, Apple copies more than others?

It's Apple that should be afraid of not knowing what Samsung and Google are going to do.

Have you seen iOS 7? I'd count how many parts of that OS is a copy of Android, but it'd be a waste of my time.
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Hmm, and to think Intel also had low yields with a sub 22nm process.

You guys, is this technology maybe a little bit over our heads? Shouldn't we just develop the technology more until we've fully mastered the fabrication?
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Hmmmm but only a few apps are even using the A7 chips full potential. So why even talk about the A8 chip?
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Apple will move away from Samsung sooner or later.

When that happens, Samsung will no longer have the advantage over other Android makers on knowing what Apple is going to make.
Serious question. How does Samsung know what Apple is going to make? Are you implying that Apple, when sending over component requests, also include a file with their product roadmap? Or is Samsung able to figure out Apple's product information based on the specs of the components?

Genuinely curious.
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Hmmmm but only a few apps are even using the A7 chips full potential. So why even talk about the A8 chip?
Improve os speed, improve battery life, make smaller, there is more to a chip other than power.
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Hmmmm but only a few apps are even using the A7 chips full potential. So why even talk about the A8 chip?
To force developers to get the ball rolling so we can rid ourselves of "fart sound apps"
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"A8" is not a very good sounding name.
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Am I the only one who thinks TSMC has a horrible logo?

It is very 1985.
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