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doubledee

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Besides Skype etc, you can set up an actual VoIP service that mimics a landline in every way by tracking the tips at http://unvexed.blogspot.com/2011/06/how-to-roll-your-own-with-voip-for.html

Why would I choose your suggestion over Skype?



Basically:

  1. Set up an account at http://voip.ms or a similar wholesaler. Cost, $0.50-$0.99 plus funds to pay for subsequent calls (which are super-cheap, literally pennies).
  2. Download Whistle Phone from the App Store or Zoiper from http://www.zoiper.com/en ...or both...
  3. Set up Whistle and/or Zoiper to talk toyour VoIP.ms account (via the SIP standard).

Now you can make and receive calls. NO other hardware is needed. (The example at the link above is aimed at people who want to keep their "landline" phones in their homes, but cut costs and improve quality by disconnecting from the phone company. To connect legacy house phones to a VoIP service requires an analog telephone adaptor, about $35-40 now. You won't need one of those.)

Of course, you'll need an Internet connection, such as a hotel or coffee-shop hotspot access. And the connection must be of good quality. Bandwidth isn't so much an issue, but dropouts and hangs in the connection will be problematic. Basically, if your browsing experience isn't responsive and smooth on a given Internet connection, don't expect much from VoIP on that connection.


...And, keep in mind that many hotels and other hotspots (and even some national firewalls) block VoIP, forcing you to use expensive in-room phones to make your calls.

As mentioned before, I have a MBP and an AT&T Hotspot - which I believe is considered "broadband" since it uses the 4G network nearly all of the time.

Will Skype work with my AT&T Hotspot?

Will your VoIP thingy work with my AT&T Hotspot?



You can get around this by tunneling through to a VPN where you have an account. Or, set up your own VPN at home on a Raspberry Pi or something of the sort (see http://unvexed.blogspot.com/2012/08/how-to-set-up-real-encrypted-vpn.html for details). This happened to me in my high-end hotel in Europe just last week. I needed to call my rental car company, and cell phone roaming and in-room calls are so damned expensive... so I booted up my preferred VoIP client (3CXPhone, available for iPhone, iPod Touch and Android). Alas, couldn't get a connection to voip.ms, so I connected to my home VPN and everything worked great. That saved me $25!

(VPNs can also allow you to use a VoIP app on a smartphone using cell data... often much cheaper than actual cell calls, and also often blocked.)

I use WiTopia.

That is a VPN, right?

Is that the same thing you are talking about?


Incidentally, if you hate cell phones but don't mind having a nice music player, you can do all the above with an iPod Touch and any number of VoIP applications, including Whistle's iOS app or the aforementioned 3CXphone. Instructions for setting up the latter are at http://unvexed.blogspot.com/2011/07/voip-as-alternative-to-cell-phones.html.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I think that would be "cheating"! :p

Sincerely,


Debbie
 

sjinsjca

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Why would I choose your suggestion over Skype?

I really don't know all that much about Skype. But "my way" lets you call and be-called from normal land-lines. Not sure if that's the case with Skype, especially for cheap.



As mentioned before, I have a MBP and an AT&T Hotspot - which I believe is considered "broadband" since it uses the 4G network nearly all of the time.

Will Skype work with my AT&T Hotspot?

Will your VoIP thingy work with my AT&T Hotspot?

I'd expect yes to both. But one or the other may be blocked; in that case, run your VPN and that should tunnel through.





I use WiTopia.

That is a VPN, right?

Is that the same thing you are talking about?


Yes and yes.
 

doubledee

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I have a 2012 MBP with Mountain Lion 10.8.5.

In my free time, I record a lot of radio shows online, so I already have SoundFlower and AU Lab set up on my Mac.

Could someone help me figure out what hardware and software I would need to use something like Skype or http://voip.ms?

And is it correct that I would need a USB Headset?

Sincerely,


Debbie
 

Cubytus

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In my free time, I record a lot of radio shows online, so I already have SoundFlower and AU Lab set up on my Mac.
If you know how to use both of these programs, I may be interested in recontacting you in the future, if I may?

Could someone help me figure out what hardware and software I would need to use something like Skype or http://voip.ms?

And is it correct that I would need a USB Headset?
I guess you could use a USB headset, or any headphones/microphone combo, the same ones marketed for cell phone use (with the notable exception of Nokia, which doesn't use the same 4-ring pinout as others)
 

Solomani

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FaceTime Audio is great. I just recently tried it, very clear hi-def audio calling. Crisp and clear. And it's free, as it's built into the iPhone or Mac. The only thing is the person you are calling also has to have an Apple Mac or iPhone (that is up to date with the latest version).
 

grahamperrin

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VoIP

… VOIP has been around for nearly 15 years now …

My first memorable use was Gizmo, in 2005. It was reasonably user-friendly.

It appears that 2004 was a milestone year.

VoIP Rant | Hacking for Christ (2006-05-09) reminds me that getting one's head around services could be challenging. Gizmo made that challenge less daunting.

Prior to that I was vaguely aware of Asterisk but when Mac OS X was in its infancy, my interest in VoIP was minimal.

Later there was OpenWengo. The openness was welcome, but I vaguely recall that some releases of WengoPhone bugged my Mac in a way that required a restart of the OS. I continued to prefer Gizmo.

Also ohphoneX, which was pleasingly Mac-like in appearance, and had been in development since around 2003. Its successor: XMeeting. I liked their potential, but never found an excuse to recommend their use in my group environment.

doubledee, I'm curious: in the past, did you use any of those applications?

For a variety of reasons, I rarely recommended Skype; I cautioned against its use.

More broadly (not limited to VoIP):

Mac OS X for phone/voice calls: progress in the decade since Panther
 
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