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What is interesting that I have noticed is when talking to quite a few people who are not using ANY Apple products, that they all say that hate Apple products. How can they hate something that they have never tried? That amazes me. It seems that they just hate the company for whatever reason.
 
What is interesting that I have noticed is when talking to quite a few people who are not using ANY Apple products, that they all say that hate Apple products. How can they hate something that they have never tried? That amazes me. It seems that they just hate the company for whatever reason.

Being someone that plays both sides of the fence (with phones/tablets), I'll say that it definitely goes both ways. I've had some true Apple fanboys tell me that my Android is awful because I get viruses all the time and that it will break down after a year, both of which are false.

I like trying both products because they both offer great things. This is one area where competition is good. :)
 
What is interesting that I have noticed is when talking to quite a few people who are not using ANY Apple products, that they all say that hate Apple products. How can they hate something that they have never tried? That amazes me. It seems that they just hate the company for whatever reason.

they only look at the price and say, hey my phone can do the same thing and its only $200, im not paying $700 I hate apple. They dont understand their phones interface is annoying, ugly and confusing and requires extra steps for everything. its like internet explorer vs safari/chrome. they are just blinded by how much better browsers there are because "oh why use that, ie does same thing", but then are clueless when a million toolbars are added or viruses loaded.
 
I have both now, just got a cheap note 3 for a private phone and use my 5s for business. My first android after 4 iPhones and BB before that. Won't be giving up my 5s as it goes with my MBPr and iPad, the note is a great after hours/weekend device.
 
I just did the same thing. About a week ago I sold my AT&T Note 3 and went back to the iPhone 5s. I've had the iPhone 5s before but being stupid I sold it and went to the Note 3. Like the original poster said, at first I was amazed about everything with the Note 3. Then it became a burden. It always annoyed me when it was in my pocket and it was a true two-handed phone. Anyways, I'm very happy to be back to the world of IOS/iPhone's. I can't wait for the iPhone 6 to come out!
 
they only look at the price and say, hey my phone can do the same thing and its only $200, im not paying $700 I hate apple. They dont understand their phones interface is annoying, ugly and confusing and requires extra steps for everything. its like internet explorer vs safari/chrome. they are just blinded by how much better browsers there are because "oh why use that, ie does same thing", but then are clueless when a million toolbars are added or viruses loaded.

I've been using Android for years and have never had viruses or random toolbars installed.

I have no problem if someone prefers one over the other but let's not spread misinformation. Lol
 
I've been using Android for years and have never had viruses or random toolbars installed.

I have no problem if someone prefers one over the other but let's not spread misinformation. Lol

yes, that was for the internet explorer example. please read correctly.
 
they only look at the price and say, hey my phone can do the same thing and its only $200, im not paying $700 I hate apple. They dont understand their phones interface is annoying, ugly and confusing and requires extra steps for everything. its like internet explorer vs safari/chrome. they are just blinded by how much better browsers there are because "oh why use that, ie does same thing", but then are clueless when a million toolbars are added or viruses loaded.

Yes god forbid anyone should prefer the look/function of a different OS to iOS, the extra steps point is total rubbish as well if anything it's the other way around and it's iOS that you have to go rooting though the settings to do the simplest thing.
 
Yes ladies and gentlemen, I switched from the Note 3 to the Iphone 5S! Took me awhile to go back to apple and I plan on sticking for awhile! I had the iPhone from 3G to 3GS to 4! Then I switched carriers, not by choice, and had to get a droid. An HTC hero which was so horrible compared to my 4. I dreaded each day of use. I then was lucky enough to get a Samsung S3 which was not too bad.

I switched to verizon and my first choice was the iPhone 5S and from being on a droid for so long, I was blinded by it and switched to a S4 after 24 hours of having my new iPhone. I figured if I was going droid, go big or go home and the note 3 was my finally choice! After a couple months, I started to miss my iPhone and the size of the note 3 was becoming more of a problem than a benefit. The big screen at first seem so awesome but after day to day use it became a big lug! I could fit in my pockets but sometimes in sport shorts it would fall out of my pocket when i sat in the car. I wasn't able to hold a drink and use my phone properly even with the one handed mode the phone had because holding it was just dreadful!

Well long story short, I got my Gold 16GB Iphone and loving his small compact size! I couldn't be happier and think I made the right choice finally! I hope to stay with apple for a long time and don't think I will go droid. The Apps have such a better layout and are catered for apple users. There wasn't much "lag" on droid but you can definitely tell it wasn't as smooth as the iPhone! People like to compare the specs of the note 3 vs 5s, saying quad core, 3gb of ram BLAH BLAH BLAH! All bull cocky, they add so much extra apps and extra stuff that run in the background that it just bogs down the phone. Without all those specs and running apple hardware it would be SO SLOW!!

I like that apple doesn't force Apps on you like samsung did. When I had my S4 it was a 16gb but I only had about 7-8GB FREE because of all the apps they forced me to have that I never wanted. Iphone is like a clean computer that was just formated that just has the OS and that is what I want. In the end the OS of the iphone is magnificent and so much better than DROID. I am suprised too because I thought it would be the other way around.

GO TEAM APPLE! I LOVE MY IPHONE!


(P.S. coming from a power gaming user who is a pro windows guy, so I think I am well verse on electronic equipment. I build my own computers and know hardware in an out and even repair computers in my spare time. I have yet to venture to APPLE PC's but maybe one day. For now I love my custom made windows box but for phones I am PRO-APPLE)

Welcome back ..... I would stick your post in my signature, if I could ....

But I'm sure I'll read about "the bigger screen ... Blah blah ... Multitasking ... Blah blah ... Eight core ... Blah blah ... 16 Gb of ram ... Blah blah ... 4 Ghz ... " And so on ...

What count is user experience ... And I retuned my company's Note 3 after a week of usage.

I really really hope iPhone 6 wouldn't follow that path

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I don't mind sticking with non-jailbreak for now or even a couple months or so. But in general is it better, battery life and software wise? What do you guys use?

iOS 7.1 is a very welcomed upgrade

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thats what happens to almost everybody wanting a bigger screen.
same here but with the original note. first wanted it, loved it, then began to hate the size. nothing new. move on. welcome back.

ps: funny thing is tho, if apple makes a 5 inch phone. i'll get it because its ios and build quality will be the best. if apple does it, the trade off will be justifiable.

I want a bigger screen also, but not at the cost of unusability ....

I'd like iPhone 6 to be under 5" , thin with a small bezel .... in an Apple fashion.
 
Android is all right if you want to play around with something different for a while, nothing beats Apple. More you use Android, more you appreciate Apple iOS. If you need the bigger screen get an iPad Air. It was not so long ago that you paid a premium for a smaller phone, nothing should really change now, still the phone which fits easily in your pocket is the best option as a phone. Top that with Apple iOS, match made in heaven.
 
Being someone that plays both sides of the fence (with phones/tablets), I'll say that it definitely goes both ways. I've had some true Apple fanboys tell me that my Android is awful because I get viruses all the time and that it will break down after a year, both of which are false.

I like trying both products because they both offer great things. This is one area where competition is good. :)

The simple fact you used the term fanboys let me understand about your attitude ....
 
My household has it all, Ipads, Iphones , Nexus phones and nexus tablets. Both Os's have come a long way and i'd say as an owner of both platforms they are both equally smooth and dependable. Now if you're going the Root/jailbreak route there's always the chance of instability which is why i see users of of jailbroken phones and rooted android phones complaining about freezes/screen of deaths etc. Anyway you guys get the idea, to each his own ;)
 
The simple fact you used the term fanboys let me understand about your attitude ....

That he can be subjective and not have some blind devotion to a brand and OS like maybe you do Max ;)

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My household has it all, Ipads, Iphones , Nexus phones and nexus tablets. Both Os's have come a long way and i'd say as an owner of both platforms they are both equally smooth and dependable. Now if you're going the Root/jailbreak route there's always the chance of instability which is why i see users of of jailbroken phones and rooted android phones complaining about freezes/screen of deaths etc. Anyway you guys get the idea, to each his own ;)

Amen to that.
 
I have just realised if you have a iPad a iPhone is a waste of money, there is other options for a phone. Bought a Moto G on the weekend thinking it would be a second phone for private use. Was so impressed by it wacked both my buss and private sims in, stuck my 5 month old 5S 64GB on Gumtree (Aussie version of craiglist) and 6 hours later had $800 in my hand. New surfboard on the way. I also bought a note 3 last week sold it after 3 days :)

And this is coming from someone with a house full of Apple products, 3 macs, iPads,iPods,iPhones,ATV and now 1 Android lol.
 
I have just realised if you have a iPad a iPhone is a waste of money, there is other options for a phone. Bought a Moto G on the weekend thinking it would be a second phone for private use. Was so impressed by it wacked both my buss and private sims in, stuck my 5 month old 5S 64GB on Gumtree (Aussie version of craiglist) and 6 hours later had $800 in my hand. New surfboard on the way. I also bought a note 3 last week sold it after 3 days :)

And this is coming from someone with a house full of Apple products, 3 macs, iPads,iPods,iPhones,ATV and now 1 Android lol.

I do not think lots of folks owning an Ipad and Iphone would consider the latter a waste of money. Most certainly a Moto G isn't an iphone. :)
 
I have just realised if you have a iPad a iPhone is a waste of money, there is other options for a phone. Bought a Moto G on the weekend thinking it would be a second phone for private use. Was so impressed by it wacked both my buss and private sims in, stuck my 5 month old 5S 64GB on Gumtree (Aussie version of craiglist) and 6 hours later had $800 in my hand. New surfboard on the way. I also bought a note 3 last week sold it after 3 days :)

And this is coming from someone with a house full of Apple products, 3 macs, iPads,iPods,iPhones,ATV and now 1 Android lol.

A cheap android phone to replace an iPhone ? Never in my life .... That would really be a waste of money
 
The simple fact you used the term fanboys let me understand about your attitude ....

There are both Apple and Android fanboys, lol! I prefer to play it down the middle. I actually just traded my Note 3 for an iPhone 5s and I love it so far.
 
A bigger screen can have it's advantages but I still prefer iOS devices over Android after using a Nexus 4 & 7 after a year.

I have not used my Nexus 7 in months now since buying the Retina Mini in December and an Air last week.

I do stil use the Nexus 4 and keep it activated with the $30 T-Mobile plan mostly just for the data that I can tether with. The bigger screen can be nice when using certain apps but usually when I want a bigger screen, I get one of the iPads.

My 5S is my main phone though and has the number I give out to people.

In my opinion, nothing beats an iOS device with the quality apps. They still are #1 in quality when compared to the same Android versions.

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I've been using Android for years and have never had viruses or random toolbars installed.

I have no problem if someone prefers one over the other but let's not spread misinformation. Lol

I worked with someone who had his phone wiped several times in one week by a virus. He had no idea where it was coming from or how he got it. This was about two years ago.
 
Does the same job or better for 1/5 of the price :)

I got the Moto G for $99 on Verizon, no contract.

I have not used it very much owning both the Note 3 and iPhone 5S. You do not have either of those any longer. We are not on the same page.
 
I got the Moto G for $99 on Verizon, no contract.

I have not used it very much owning both the Note 3 and iPhone 5S. You do not have either of those any longer. We are not on the same page.

I had 5S as my business phone and got the note 3 for private but decided it was overkill plus too big for what i needed. Sold the note and i got the Moto G outright, i had no intention of selling the 5s but when i put the 2 sims in the Moto G and saw how good it was i sold the 5S. My phone is mostly for calls/sms which the Moto G has better call quality/reception than the 5S and note 3 was weak. I have a iPad air with 4gb a month for everything IOS.
Will run this way till October and see what happens.
 
Welcome back.

I saw a sale on a red Galaxy Tab 3 7 for $179, and decided to give it a try. It's just the wifi version. It looked really good... I'm bias to anything metallic red color; and even came with a free case.

I gave it a full charge, and then power it up the first time. Oh my goodness... the initial experience was dreadful. It feels so SLOW. Going from page to page, sometimes the animation get jagged. I went on and try to configure it to shut down all the fancy things, and some things just feels like drag.

Imagine running Windows 8 on a Pentium 4 with only 4GB RAM at most. Yea... It felt like that. Hitting some apps took a few seconds to even start. Checking email (from gmail) was also a dreadful and horrible experience. I swore the Gmail app for ios was much better.

I still have it, as I have 30 days to evaluate and return it, but at this rate, I'm thinking on just returning it. I thought it would be nice to keep it around a s universal remote since it has IR. But so far I cant seem to find an app that works really well with it.

A lot of the apps that came with it felt disconnected... disconnected experience, and performance was also studdery.

Somone told me that the Tab 3 7 hardware was about the same as the Galaxy S2, or about the ipad2. I still have an ipad and I use it every day, it was never this studdery. Typing anything on it seems to take forever and gets unforgiving if you accidentally press the 'back' touchbutton... and you have to seemingly start over.

The parts that works was neat tho. Google music seem to stream music nicely through built in speakers. the widgets were interesting. Doing more than that just seem to bring the unit to its knees. The screen is really nice though. Pictures are vibrant and really crisp.

Will be looking at options at rooting it or putting a bare vanilla Andriod 4.2 on it (if possible) to see if the performance improves or not, but right now, it just sucks.

On the same day I bought an ipad mini retina... OMG, that is such a joy to use. Everything I am used to doing is just better... smoother and so forth. I tested the battery life on it, and didn't have to charge it until almost 48 hours later. It came still with 7.0.4 (luckily) and was able to jailbreak right away.

What a difference.
 
If you want to try Android, the only way to go is Nexus.
I bought a nexus 7 for 229€ (32 GB version), so I can play with vanilla KitKat ....

Not so bad, but the iOS ecosystem is on another league in my opinion.
 
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