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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:24 AM   #26
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I really hope not. I might have to buy one if they make them :S
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:24 AM   #27
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He wants the bezel to be used as a functional part of the display. In other words, an edge to edge screen.

Didn't think of that, thank you

Now I know I need more coffee.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:26 AM   #28
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Will it have DDR4 ram?
No that's Skylake since Broadwell is just a shrunk down Haswell design. However, I wouldn't expect this Air until October due to Intel delay and hopefully supplies on the screen won't be tight due to new manufacturing process.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:29 AM   #29
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Battery life, that's the question. I'd hate to it see being worse than what we have now.
I'd trade some battery for a better screen. The 11 inch air is unusable with that screen.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:29 AM   #30
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What's the point in matching the more powerful graphics needed to drive a retina display with a sub 2Ghz dual core CPU, a pitiful amount of soldered RAM and a tiny SSD?
Because that's all we need. Open up Activity Monitor and tell us how much of your CPU is idling. I bet it's over 95%.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:29 AM   #31
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Battery life, that's the question. I'd hate to it see being worse than what we have now.
Not if the screen is IGZO like they put in the iPad Air and the Broadwell reduction in energy.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:30 AM   #32
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And, please, a 17" rMBP too!
Seriously... you gotta stop saying that every time there's a article on the 12" macbook. We get it!
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:31 AM   #33
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Later in the year is when Apple launches every product now!
I agree. I can't stand their new release cycle with cramming everything into the late fall. The past few years have been awful for that.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:34 AM   #34
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I'd trade some battery for a better screen. The 11 inch air is unusable with that screen.
But it was usable a couple years ago?
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:38 AM   #35
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Bezel being the piece of aluminum around the display/screen correct ?

You have a bezel around the 15" rMBP just that its the non functioning part of the display or screen itself.

Not arguing but what difference does it make if it's the aluminum or dark glass?

As for battery life the MBA I have is doing awesome on battery life, just my opinion
The bezel on the air is almost twice as big compared to the mbpr. Plus the glossy black kinda helps it disappear for the eye, the silver bezel on the air tho is to me personally a factor not to buy that thing. In addition to that, apple bought a company (forgot the name) which specializes in edge to edge screen, which i really hope apple will adopt in their future products (at least with a minimal bezel like in the latest iphone mockups).

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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:38 AM   #36
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Makes sence that they would but I think it will hurt MacBook Pro sales a lot
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:41 AM   #37
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Note that the rumored display resolution of 2304x1440 is 4x of 1152x720. That's significantly below both the 1366x768 native resolution of the 11" MacBook Air and the 1440x900 native resolution of the 13" MacBook Air. It's even below the 1280x800 native resolution of the original MacBook Air.
Except that it is 4x of that. With 1440p it's a 27-inch iMac to go. The rest is scaling.

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Makes sence that they would but I think it will hurt MacBook Pro sales a lot.
Only if it's cheaper.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:44 AM   #38
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Am I the only one concerned with this thing potentially having no fan? I know that computing has come a long way, and the iPads don't have one, but then, they aren't performing processed-heavy functions like rendering video from mkv to mp4 for hours. I worry the thing will overheat in a big way.

Although I have to admit, if this happens, it would be the writing machine of my dreams. I might just skip out on upgrading the iMac for this machine and use it for everything but workhorse tasks and photo processing.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:44 AM   #39
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I just want them to come out with a Retina Thunderbolt Display. I want a monitor that is like for like in quality to my rMBP.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:45 AM   #40
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I dont know about you guys, but I've been using my mom's new iMac a couple times lately which is obviously not retina. And being used to retina on my MPBR and iPhone and iPad Air, my eyes start to hurt when working with non-retina after about 5min.

When I bought the updated high-end MBPR 13inch earlier this year I was comparing it to the Air but ultimately decided for the retina display because of this.

Non-Retina products should be history, and I really really hope that the standard will be 300+ PPI and not 224 or something...
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:46 AM   #41
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End of the year? Okay, so the new iphone is EOY. The rumored iWatch & possibly Apple Television it at EOY.

Um...does Apple plan to release anything in the first half of the year??

That's an awfully long gap for any new products or updates. If they aren't gonna update the MacBook airs or pros, Hopefully they'll update the iMacs & Mac mini this spring at least. Something.
Considering that Apple has the advantage that its user base accepts also incremental changes, I really wonder why they cram in everything at the end of the year; the different product launches get overshadowed, the products less media exposure, cash-flow takes it chances, logistics are tougher to handle... dunno... what's going on??

perhaps I'm just ranting because I'm in business for a new MBA or MBP.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:50 AM   #42
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Pixel density.

For those of you who are wondering about pixel density, it comes out to about the same as the current rMBP: around 220 ppi.

This is less than than the retina iPhones at 326 ppi, but presumably those live closer to your face.
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Mac Mini could do with an update....!
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 06:55 AM   #44
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Seriously... you gotta stop saying that every time there's a article on the 12" macbook. We get it!


Just want to show Apple there's a sizable amount of people asking for the re-introduction of the 17" model.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 07:04 AM   #45
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Although I think this will be nice, I am really finding that I can live without a laptop at this point. If they can improve the ipad to provide multi tasking (multiple windows) and an integrated keyboard cover, I would have no need for a laptop.

My wife loves her Mac air and I have yet to convert her to an ipad, but I truly believe we are either 1 or 2 generations away from the ipad being a true laptop killer. I still keep my iMac to do the heavy lifting and as a storage device, but I find myself using the ipad 90 percent of the time.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 07:06 AM   #46
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because that's all we need. Open up activity monitor and tell us how much of your cpu is idling. I bet it's over 95%.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 07:06 AM   #47
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I wonder what will happen to the 13" MBA and rMBP. At this point there's almost no difference between the two, and if the MBA goes retina then they will be virtually identical.
Seriously?

13" Air vs. 13" rPro
1.3GHz i5 vs. 2.4GHz i5
Intel HD Graphics 5000 vs. Intel Iris Graphics
Thunderbolt x1 vs. Thunderbolt 2 x2
No HDMI vs. Has HDMI
12hr Battery vs. 9hr Battery
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 07:06 AM   #48
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You can bet it will immediately make the old one look dated.

The obnoxious bezel will undoubtably go down. The reason for the bezel on the current one, I believe, is to make the whole computer wider, so that it can be thinner.

I wonder if it will keep the plastic screen, which I like. I'm kind of guessing no if it likely uses that special screen process like the Pro which has two layers versus three or something. I don't know!


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Seriously?

13" Air vs. 13" rPro
1.3GHz i5 vs. 2.4GHz i5
Intel HD Graphics 5000 vs. Intel Iris Graphics
Thunderbolt x1 vs. Thunderbolt 2 x2
No HDMI vs. Has HDMI
12hr Battery vs. 9hr Battery

Don't forget, even basic-ass Wintels have HDMI out. It is a differentiator here. And the clock speed is not so different. And 5000 and Iris aren't so different. And won't it have thunderbolt 2 too?
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 07:11 AM   #49
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End of the year? Okay, so the new iphone is EOY. The rumored iWatch & possibly Apple Television it at EOY.

Um...does Apple plan to release anything in the first half of the year??

That's an awfully long gap for any new products or updates. If they aren't gonna update the MacBook airs or pros, Hopefully they'll update the iMacs & Mac mini this spring at least. Something.
Don't they usually do their basic hardware upgrades mid-year as you say? I'm sure the Mac Mini and iMac will both get some love this summer with minimal fanfare as per usual.

But I don't get why people expect a steady stream of new from Apple all year long. Honestly, it just makes a lot of sense to drop big bombs of NEW right before the holiday season. That's when folks are itching to spend their cash and feel justified doing so. The people who impulse buy all year-long don't need something new to justify, they're already going to splurge.

Apple continues to actively align themselves with the Christmas season and I think it's brilliant.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 07:12 AM   #50
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Retina screen means big battery means a retina 13" MacBook Air would be hardly distinguishable from a Retina 13" MacBook Pro. I'd be more inclined to believe that the rumored 12" MacBook is the supposed "Retina MacBook Air."

Note that the rumored display resolution of 2304x1440 is 4x of 1152x720. That's significantly below both the 1366x768 native resolution of the 11" MacBook Air and the 1440x900 native resolution of the 13" MacBook Air. It's even below the 1280x800 native resolution of the original MacBook Air.

It would make sense for Apple to drop the total number of (4x) pixels in this way so that it can still get by with a relatively smaller battery compared to the Retina 13" MacBook Pro, keeping it slim and light to justify the "Air" moniker.
Pretty much what I was going to point out. The x1440 would really make it a no-go for me as this is essentially just x720, so even less than in the current 11" Air (768). And even that's too small these days. For any kind of non-movie-watching purposes, I'm in general not convinced that 16:10 or even 16:9 screens are a good idea...
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