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Old Mar 31, 2014, 12:42 PM   #1
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Samsung Launches 28-inch 4K UD590 Monitor for $700




Samsung today announced the UD590, a new 28-inch 4K monitor that will go on sale this April in the US market for $700 (Via Engadget). The UD590 model includes a 28-inch display with 3840 x 2160 resolution, 1 billion (10-bit) colors and 1 millisecond response time, making it suitable for gaming or watching high-action sports or movies.

The UD590 ships with a picture-in-picture feature that allows users to connect two computers to a single monitor and view both desktops side-by-side. This same option provides a single user with the ability to view different content in two separate windows without a drop in resolution.

Samsung's UD590 monitor has a minimalist design with a simple T-stand and color options of silver or black. It features two HDMI ports, one DisplayPort connector and no DVI ports. The UD590 can be pre-ordered now for $699 and will start shipping April 18th.

This is the year of affordable 4K monitors with other manufacturers also selling 28-inch displays with sub-$1000 price tags. Lenovo will start selling the ThinkVision Pro2840m in April for $800, while Asus plans to launch its own $800 28-inch offering in Q2 2014. Announced earlier this year, Dell already is selling the 28-inch 4K P2815Q for under $700 on its website.

For those interested in 1080P monitors, Samsung also announced the SD390 and SD590 models. Both monitors will be available in 23.6 and 27-inch sizes and will feature a combination of HDMI and VGA ports. Pricing will start at $250 for the D390 and $310 for the SD590 when the monitors go on sale later in April.

Article Link: Samsung Launches 28-inch 4K UD590 Monitor for $700
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Old Mar 31, 2014, 12:43 PM   #2
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TN panel = no buy.

They basically did the same thing as Dell, ASUS and Lenovo. I'd rather pay significantly more to get an IPS panel.

Don't they think there's a market for ~$1,500 IPS 4k 27-28" monitors? I'd rather move up in size from my current 8-year-old 24" monitor, and 32" is too big for my desk and too expensive for my wallet.
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Old Mar 31, 2014, 12:43 PM   #3
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IPS or crappy TN?
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Old Mar 31, 2014, 12:44 PM   #4
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What is TN?
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I'm guessing a TN panel with that 1ms response time.
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Old Mar 31, 2014, 12:46 PM   #6
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Nice to see more 4k options hit the market and this one actually has 60hz (through DP 1.2 only). Though I myself won't be a 4k display buyer until we see an IPS 60hz model for around this price, and I imagine we are at least a year if not 2 out from that.
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Old Mar 31, 2014, 12:46 PM   #7
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What is TN?
Don't know exact details, but broadly:

TN = fast response times, crap colour reproduction, poor viewing angles
IPS = slower response times, excellent colour reproduction, good viewing angles.
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Old Mar 31, 2014, 12:52 PM   #8
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TN on a panel this large? No thanks.
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Old Mar 31, 2014, 12:56 PM   #9
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Nice to see more 4k options hit the market and this one actually has 60hz (through DP 1.2 only). Though I myself won't be a 4k display buyer until we see an IPS 60hz model for around this price, and I imagine we are at least a year if not 2 out from that.
Is DP 1.2 the only way to get 4k 60hz on a Mac? If so, I'm guessing the original 2012 MacBook Pro w/ Retina will never be able to output 4k at 60hz to an external monitor due to the lack of DP 1.2? Thanks.
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Don't know exact details, but broadly:

TN = fast response times, crap colour reproduction, poor viewing angles
IPS = slower response times, excellent colour reproduction, good viewing angles.
I'm by no means an expert either, and granted the IPS display in the iMac is pretty fantastic, but I have a display that would be fairly similar in a lot ways but is TN next to it. It's a night and day difference for me. I find the IPS is far superior and likely wouldn't buy another monitor if it weren't IPS.
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TN on a panel this large? No thanks.
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With TN on a panel this big, the same color on the top, bottom, or sides is going to look very different from the middle. Really horrible tech and shouldn't even be used on these cutting edge 4K resolution monitors.
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I had a 20" iMac with a TN panel. When I sold it and got a 20" Dell IPS, I didn't notice much difference. Granted, it's one of those cheaper e-IPS displays so maybe I don't know what I'm missing. I'm not a graphics designer and I play games, so a good refresh rate is more important to me than accurate color reproduction.

A 1080p retina for $250 is damn tempting. What bothers me more than the TN is the anemic ports. VGA and no display port? Seriously, who uses VGA anymore? Then again I almost never connect my MBP to my monitor so maybe it doesn't matter.

Edit: never mind, I totally misread this. The smaller monitors are not retina. Guess I'll be waiting a few more years...

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TN and no Thunderbolt? Fail.
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With TN on a panel this big, the same color on the top, bottom, or sides is going to look very different from the middle. Really horrible tech and shouldn't even be used on these cutting edge 4K resolution monitors.
"This is the year of affordable 4K monitors"

Whatever it takes in the race to the bottom...
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TN and no Thunderbolt? Fail.
Just another mediocre Samsung product that falls all kinds of short.
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Old Mar 31, 2014, 01:24 PM   #16
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TN panel = no buy.

They basically did the same thing as Dell, ASUS and Lenovo. I'd rather pay significantly more to get an IPS panel.

Don't they think there's a market for ~$1,500 IPS 4k 27-28" monitors? I'd rather move up in size from my current 8-year-old 24" monitor, and 32" is too big for my desk and too expensive for my wallet.
Yeah, you get what you pay for as usual.
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When do you guys think a retina iMac is coming? I want a 21.5 inch iMac soon but it would really suck having a non-retina machine for 5 years or so and a retina version coming out a soon after I buy it.
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Apple display or what?

I am waiiiitiiiing for APPLE to release their new monitors... wonder if I am waiting in vain?!
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TN and no Thunderbolt? Fail.
You mean double-fail

4K should be about the best possible image... but that's just me.
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TN and no Thunderbolt? Fail.
Fail for you perhaps.

There are tons of gamers out there who crave faster-than-IPS response times and who want to play at high resolutions. The fairly affordable price is a bonus. For them this monitor is ideal. I doubt many of them care much about Thunderbolt since most of them probably aren't playing games on Macs.

For programmers this monitor also fits the bill because having lots of crisp text onscreen is important to programmers, but color fidelity usually isn't.

For photographers, UX designers, graphic artists or other creative professionals I wouldn't recommend this monitor. For them, yes, this is a fail.
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Fail for you perhaps.

There are tons of gamers out there who crave faster-than-IPS response times and who want to play at high resolutions. The fairly affordable price is a bonus. For them this monitor is ideal. I doubt many of them care much about Thunderbolt since most of them probably aren't playing games on Macs.

For programmers this monitor also fits the bill because having lots of crisp text onscreen is important to programmers, but color fidelity usually isn't.

For photographers, UX designers, graphic artists or other creative professionals I wouldn't recommend this monitor. For them, yes, this is a fail.
"Programmers" aren't nearly as common as you think anymore. I'm a "software developer" and you have to be ready to do a lot more than just stare a lines of code all day. IPS is a big difference maker for me.
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TN panel = no buy.

They basically did the same thing as Dell, ASUS and Lenovo. I'd rather pay significantly more to get an IPS panel.

Don't they think there's a market for ~$1,500 IPS 4k 27-28" monitors? I'd rather move up in size from my current 8-year-old 24" monitor, and 32" is too big for my desk and too expensive for my wallet.
Obviously they think there is a larger market at this price point. The very unanswered question is just what the benefit to most people will be for using a 4k monitor?

I can see advantages for photographers with high resolution images to process (and the same for the video crowd) and probably some graphic artists, but just how large is the potential market?
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Fail for you perhaps.

There are tons of gamers out there who crave faster-than-IPS response times and who want to play at high resolutions. The fairly affordable price is a bonus. For them this monitor is ideal. I doubt many of them care much about Thunderbolt since most of them probably aren't playing games on Macs.
Those gamers also crave super-high framerates. Good luck getting those at 4k resolution unless you have that new $3,000 Titan Z GPU Nvidia just announced. And if your budget allows you to buy such expensive GPUs, why would it be so limited when buying a display? After all, a high-end display is a lot more future-proof than a high-end GPU.

I fail to see exactly who is targeted with this kind of display. So far, I'm thinking "those attracted by buzzwords like 4k and low price tags that otherwise don't know a lot about displays".
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Obviously they think there is a larger market at this price point. The very unanswered question is just what the benefit to most people will be for using a 4k monitor?

I can see advantages for photographers with high resolution images to process (and the same for the video crowd) and probably some graphic artists, but just how large is the potential market?
Photographers and graphics artists will be turned off by the poor color accuracy and will rather use a lower-res display with accurate colors.

As I said above, it's also not ideal for gamers on a budget either since running modern games at 4k resolution is so intensive that it requires thousands of dollars worth of GPU which implies you're well, not a gamer on a budget.

The potential market probably just uninformed consumers attracted by buzzwords. I suspect a bunch of kids will buy this for gaming just to realize it's unusable, and will end up setting it at 1080p resolution...
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I'd consider this, but I'd rather pay more for better quality. IPS Thunderbolt 4k display, please, Apple! I'm one of the ones holding off on a Mac Pro until I get an idea whether that's coming or not.

(I also like that Apple's has speakers and camera/mic built in. My aging but low-clutter iMac has spoiled me!)

If IPS turns out to just be out of my price range, then I'd consider the Dell if reviews are good. But for around the same price I'd also consider that 28" Lenovo.
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