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Apple's Exploration of Pressure Sensitive Touch Screens Continues
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a web app that relies on hover for operational functionality rather than appearance cues is doing it wrong.
Cool. I thought the Wacom tech only worked with a stylus. Does it work for finger pressure too? And even if so, what if there's a better method?
They're fantastic to use! Apple's party line is that you'll end up with "gorilla arm" syndrome or some BS like that, but I work with touchscreens at work, and the touchscreen isn't a primary input device. It's a secondary input device, and if you use it as a secondary input device, it's absolutely fantastic to use.
Doesn't Samsung just use Wacom techonlogy?
I have a Dell Venue 8 Pro which uses Synaptics digitizer. Not great, but honestly I didn't find that the Asus Vivotab Note 8 with Wacom technology much more impressive either, the digitizer is terrible thin and not comfortable to hold for long periods, but props to having it hide away in the tablet. My Dell Active Stylus may not tuck away into the unit but I can markup drawings all day with it.
But as soon as iPad comes with any active stylus support, I am ditching my Dell. I don't care about pressure sensitivity, I just want to markup construction drawings on site and write notes.
I have a Dell Venue 8 Pro which uses Synaptics digitizer. Not great, but honestly I didn't find that the Asus Vivotab Note 8 with Wacom technology much more impressive either, the digitizer is terrible thin and not comfortable to hold for long periods, but props to having it hide away in the tablet. My Dell Active Stylus may not tuck away into the unit but I can markup drawings all day with it.
But as soon as iPad comes with any active stylus support, I am ditching my Dell. I don't care about pressure sensitivity, I just want to markup construction drawings on site and write notes.
Nintendo DS and 3DS also had games/apps that used that mechanism, but I don't think they are pressure sensitive devices.
By portable, do you mean tablets?
Active digitizers make a world on difference on those for note taking, or any sort of drawing, really.
Only when that web app is used with touch devices.
Mouse & keyboards user interface design is vastly different from touch UI design.
Hover has been around since the 90's, while touch UI's didn't get popular until the 2007 with the iPhone.
I don't know what you're talking about. I never implied buying smaller companies was wrong; it just doesn't make the acquiring company innovative.
Not quite sure where you're going or what you're actually saying to be honest. The OP was clearly mocking Samsung with a "don't copy this because it's already patented" and the implication was it was patented by Apple. I pointed out that was false and Samsung already uses the tech so the copying would not be possible.
As to your statement about Samsung's license... yeah that's false too. You have no idea what freedoms or restrictions their license gives them. Or do you?
Isn't pressure based going backwards? iPhone broke through in 2007 as the first capacitive touch on glass while everything else was that crappy pressure- based resistive screens
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Pressure *sensitive*, not pressure "based" e.g. "resistive" screens.
Same touch experience as we have now, but the hardware will be able to detect how hard your fingers (or some other object) are pressing against the screen and optionally respond to that pressure (drawing apps or maybe ability to discern different intents from the user).
Actually this kind of tech should get a real boost from rainbow-catching waveguide stacks.
http://www.buffalo.edu/ubreporter/r...cles/stories/2014/April/waveguide.detail.html
http://www.nature.com/srep/2014/140328/srep04498/full/srep04498.html
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Now if only we could also see some form of haptic feedback as well. Combined you could almost instantly remake the whole Controller market.
There is also a second angle to consider for Apple, on Magic Mice, which is giving pressure sensing mouse buttons without mechanical parts.
http://www.buffalo.edu/ubreporter/r...cles/stories/2014/April/waveguide.detail.html
http://www.nature.com/srep/2014/140328/srep04498/full/srep04498.html
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Now if only we could also see some form of haptic feedback as well. Combined you could almost instantly remake the whole Controller market.
There is also a second angle to consider for Apple, on Magic Mice, which is giving pressure sensing mouse buttons without mechanical parts.
Samsung already have a wacom digitized screen on the Galaxy note 2014 edition and yes it already has pressure levels......
Why would Apple put ouch screens in their Mac ? They're devices out there already that add this.... Maybe finicky i dunno... But this is what sets Apple apart from everyone else...
Why would Apple need to play with everyone ? Just because Microsoft does something, dos this mean Apple has to ? Maybe not with THEIR own technology, but at all ?
Apple can go it's own way.....
(or not) .... True, this senor is kewl looking, but bloggers would bash Apple anyway..... why can't Apple just walk away and not implement this ? Give me one good reason ?
Why would Apple need to play with everyone ? Just because Microsoft does something, dos this mean Apple has to ? Maybe not with THEIR own technology, but at all ?
Apple can go it's own way.....
(or not) .... True, this senor is kewl looking, but bloggers would bash Apple anyway..... why can't Apple just walk away and not implement this ? Give me one good reason ?
That is the case, however GarageBand takes note of how much your iPad moves with each tap to work out how hard you're hitting the screen.
The original MS Surface table project (later renamed Pixelsense) started back around 2001.
Microsoft bought Jeff Han's Perceptive Pixel company in 2012.
Did Pixelsense get pressure sensitivity after that? Thanks!
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As for this patent, what it's mainly about is using capacitive sensing to tell when a finger begins to touch the screen.
That way, the software can better calculate the pressure represented by the amount of finger pad subsequently pressed against the FTIR optical layer.
Also, it can reject leftover marks and moisture that the FTIR layer sees, because there will be no large matching capacitive touch at the same spot.
Yes, and it's good technology. I believe this is based off of the work Jeff Han was involved with for many years.
I can see both sides of the argument. I'll side with Apple's "gorilla arm" characterization if a touch screen is used as a primary input device for general computing. I'm a mouse and keyboard guy (and before that a keyboard key, and before that a punch-card guy which show how ancient I am) but for certain applications (like CNN's big news wall) touch works well as a primary input device.
I tend to agree with Billy G. on this one - a modern computer system should be able to receive input from a myriad of sources - the keyboard, mouse, touch, pen, voice, etc with each new technology supplementing the other, rather than replacing. When it comes to primary input for general computing, the mouse and keyboard, IMO, are hard to beat.
You mean, Samsung and Microsoft has already been able to implement it and Apple hasn't. News flash, Apple is usually behind. For example, most of the features on iPhone have been around on Android for a long time now. The only thing Apple does right is, it comes out with beautiful hardware. On the software side, Apple is mediocre at best...
Hasn't been able to? You meant hasn't been able to implement something that's too limited? And for your information, main features of Android (touch screen phone) had come from iPhone. Without iPhone showing Google the way... Well, we all know the history, don't we?
this is a waste of time. just use a real digitizer for pressure. then you can use a real pen or touch. the pen would be 100% optional and would work with touch also. they are doing this to shove a square block through a round hole and get pressure for their existing touch. it still sucks without a real pen (point tip not nub) plain and simple.