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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:16 PM   #26
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SO, you're not liking the Office subscription price, thank your lucky stars you don't use Adobe CS.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:20 PM   #27
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LOL, Balmer probably paid that guy $3.7 million dollars to make that comment. When you're that rich, can you put a number on ensuring history looks upon you kindly? That number is probably at least $3.7 million dollars. Maybe even $3.8 million dollars.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:20 PM   #28
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Charging almost $10,000 to use Office for 100 years is insane pricing. Sorry but I'm out of the Office ecosystem forever!
You could save money by not living that long.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:21 PM   #29
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The app is free.....great way to pull people in, and then BAM, hit 'em with that $10/month or $100/year to actually use the app.
Props for the douchebaggery Microsoft.
Say what? Do you expect businesses to provide product without having some sort of revenue produced by it? Really? Would you offer your boss your time and effort for free? Like, you drive to work for free, then BAM, you expect to get paid for the time you put in.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:21 PM   #30
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SO, you're not liking the Office subscription price, thank your lucky stars you don't use Adobe CS.
CC is expensive but it is a powerful suite of creativity apps that its customers use to make a living. There is nothing else that comes close to what Adobe can offer its customers and they are priced accordingly.

Office on the other hand is competing against a bunch of free/low cost alternatives that can largely meet the needs of the vast majority of people. There are some people who need the power features of Excel and Word, but most people just use it because they don't know any differently (or their company doesn't know any differently).

It's amazing how much money Microsoft has been able to milk customers for over the years with Office.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:23 PM   #31
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Say what? Do you expect businesses to provide product without having some sort of revenue produced by it? Really? Would you offer your boss your time and effort for free? Like, you drive to work for free, then BAM, you expect to get paid for the time you put in.
People now seem to think .99 is what you should pay for an app which then has a lifetime of free updates as the developers expense.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:24 PM   #32
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SO, you're not liking the Office subscription price, thank your lucky stars you don't use Adobe CS.
I actually really love my CC subscription. But I'm the kind of person who uses tons of different software for my work, and love learning new software. Having everything they make at my disposal is awesome, and extra benefits like using Typekit on my sites make it worthwhile. Then bonuses come along like today getting Lightroom for iPad. I'm currently syncing 23,629 photos from my Lightroom Library to my Retina iPad Mini. It's incredible!
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:24 PM   #33
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"Details matter?" Indeed they do!

Details like shipping a new OS with 65,000 known bugs apparently don't affect MS very much; I'm glad to know they take a more focused approach to iOS.
I'm assuming you're referring to Vista? Anyways, I'm sure this team who created the office iPad app isn't related to the OS team.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:24 PM   #34
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Since we were designing Office for iPad from a "blank slate" so to speak, we wanted to take the time to deliver the highest possible quality Office experience that is fully optimized for the iPad. A wise man once said, "Details matter, it's worth waiting to get it right." That rings true for how we thought about it.Han-yi Shaw, Group Program Manager & Design Manager for Office for iPad

Wasn't that wise man Steve?
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:26 PM   #35
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Since we were designing Office for iPad from a "blank slate" so to speak, we wanted to take the time to deliver the highest possible quality Office experience that is fully optimized for the iPad. A wise man once said, "Details matter, it's worth waiting to get it right." That rings true for how we thought about it.Han-yi Shaw, Group Program Manager & Design Manager for Office for iPad

Wasn't that wise man Steve?
Yes. That's the point.
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Charging almost $10,000 to use Office for 100 years is insane pricing. Sorry but I'm out of the Office ecosystem forever!
That's cheaper than paying $400 every 3 years to upgrade Office as in the past.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:27 PM   #37
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Charging almost $10,000 to use Office for 100 years is insane pricing. Sorry but I'm out of the Office ecosystem forever!
Then don't use it for 100 years.

I just solved your problem.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:31 PM   #38
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That's an oversimplified way of looking at the issue.
Wha?

The make a product. You need the product. They offer a reasonable price. You pay for the product.

How is that oversimplified? That's how most companies+consumers work.

If I were an Office user, I'd consider this a bonus to my existing setup, or a incentive to bring Office to my mobile devices. For the price, you get 20 gigs of One Drive, Microsoft Office (Word, Excel, Onenote, PowerPoint) to all your devices including desktop, laptop, tablet, and phone. You get to use it on 5 computers! You get Skype minutes on top if you use that.

Office costs more on the old model and you got less. What was it, $350 for upgrade pricing every 3 years when I new version came out? 3 years on the subscription model is $297. A little cheaper, and they give you a lot more PLUS you'll always have the latest version.

The ability to maintain formatting from desktop to iPad is the damn best feature IMO.

What's with all the crying and whining?
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:31 PM   #39
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That's cheaper than paying $400 every 3 years to upgrade Office as in the past.
The problem is people were not upgrading every 3 years. So Microsoft decided it was time to effectively force everyone to upgrade every year with the subscription model. For some people it will work out cheaper if they were buying all the Office upgrades in the past (not many people did, and certainly not many businesses did either). For the majority of people it will cost them more money and make Microsoft more money - which is of course why Microsoft they have adopted the subscription model.

Now do I have any a problem with a company trying to milk customers for every penny they can get? Nope. If people think they need to pay for this, and do so, then congratulations to Microsoft for continuing to milk the Office cow for loads more money.

I'm just pointing out reasons why I'm not buying into it.

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Then don't use it for 100 years.

I just solved your problem.
I solved my own problem by not using Office at all. I hope many other people reach a similar decision.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:31 PM   #40
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You could save money by not living that long.
Just fell out of my chair laughing. Now my boss wants to speak to you.

Sorry Sam, I completely rolled you under the bus.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:33 PM   #41
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Just fell out of my chair laughing. Now my boss wants to speak to you.

Sorry Sam, I completely rolled you under the bus.
Worth it.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:33 PM   #42
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Am I the only one quaking in his boots to hear about all the shared code between Office for iPad and Office for Mac? Sounds like Microsoft might go the way of Apple in dumbing down the desktop interface.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:33 PM   #43
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The point is the vast majority of people don't need it anymore.
The market doesn't seem to agree with your assessment.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:43 PM   #44
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The app is free.....great way to pull people in, and then BAM, hit 'em with that $10/month or $100/year to actually use the app.
Props for the douchebaggery Microsoft.
Bitter much? They are a company over all, how else do you expect them to make money? You don't really think iCloud or Google (Gmail, google doc etc...) is really "free" do you? There is nothing that is "free", if you don't like it you can use something else, if not write your own program.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:49 PM   #45
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What's the point? I have iWorks already.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:53 PM   #46
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Wise man

That Wise Man was Steve Jobs. MS is following the Steve mantra too.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 01:55 PM   #47
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Its kind of ironic in a way. People are always associating Apple with a walled garden you can't escape. Now with software subscriptions like Microsoft and Adobe its kind of doing it too.

In fact talking with a friend who's a Microsoft partner some of the packages offered make it hard to downgrade. You have to delete and make a new account. Something that a Microsoft representative admitted it was a way to deter people from going to a cheaper package.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 02:04 PM   #48
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Yeah that's a fair comparison. Me refusing to pay an excessive amount of money every year for a product that is already grossly overpriced in the marketplace is akin to me asking the poor Microsoft employees to work for free.

Now you could have told my boss I decided to download the fully baked iWorks apps for free and deleted all Office entirely.
Let's see how 'free' that iWork suite looks the next time Apple drop a non-backwards compatible, non-optional update that won't run on half your hardware.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 02:08 PM   #49
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That's cheaper than paying $400 every 3 years to upgrade Office as in the past.
Did people seriously do that ?!

The last time I paid for Office was ~ 7 years ago, and it only cost me ~$100
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Did people seriously do that ?!

The last time I paid for Office was ~ 7 years ago, and it only cost me ~$100
Yeah, I did that once. The hologram on the disk didn't look nearly so good though.
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