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Old Apr 15, 2014, 05:45 PM   #1
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Apple and Other Smartphone Makers Back Global Anti-Theft Measures




Apple, Google, HTC, Huawei, Motorola, Microsoft, Nokia and Samsung have announced a voluntary agreement to include anti-theft technology on all smartphones beginning next year, according to a report by Re/code.

The pledge has device makers agreeing that all devices going on sale after July of 2015 will have capabilities to remotely wipe data and to prevent the device from being reactivated without the owner's permission.

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A number of state and local lawmakers praised the agreement, though it was panned as inadequate by California state Sen. Mark Leno, who has proposed a mandatory kill-switch law.

"The wireless industry today has taken an incremental yet inadequate step to address the epidemic of smartphone theft," Leno said in a statement. "Only weeks ago, they claimed that the approach they are taking today was infeasible and counterproductive. While I am encouraged they are moving off of that position so quickly, today's 'opt-in' proposal misses the mark if the ultimate goal is to combat street crime and violent thefts involving smartphones and tablets."
The senator pointed out that all smartphones must have similar kill switch features, or violent street crime and thefts will continue to occur as at least some of the device thefts will still be profitable.

A federal bill introduced earlier this year would mandate the inclusion of such a smartphone "kill switch" after California introduced a similar bill.

It is likely that Apple's Activation Lock, introduced alongside iOS 7, satisfies the requirements of the agreement already. Activation Lock effectively disables a stolen smartphone by preventing it from being wiped and reactivated without an Apple ID and password. Apple's Find My iPhone also allows for devices to be remotely wiped and locked.

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Old Apr 15, 2014, 05:46 PM   #2
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It's remarkable to see how cheap "icloud locked" iphone's are on eBay. It doesn't seem to stop thieves, just puts a dent in their profits.

I like that they're collaborating to put fourth an effort though!
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 05:47 PM   #4
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Google's "Anti-theft" measures will be easily disabled by side-loading an APK - as always. Wait and see - if they can't stop piracy, how are these blithering dunderheads going to "fix" security of this importance?

I trust Google for security, like a bicycle made of jelly

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Old Apr 15, 2014, 05:48 PM   #5
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So I can sell my iPhone and then screw over whom I sold it to?

You know this will happen.
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 05:48 PM   #6
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It's also a way to pad the pockets of the manufactures.
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 05:48 PM   #7
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I'm actually surprised hackers haven't found a bypass around it. iOS 7 has been out for a while now and there hasn't been any sign of the activation lock being cracked.

Note: I'm not supporting the hackers, I think the anti-theft lock is fantastic
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 05:50 PM   #8
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I'm actually surprised hackers haven't found a bypass around it. iOS 7 has been out for a while now and there hasn't been any sign of the activation lock being cracked.

Note: I'm not supporting the hackers, I think the anti-theft lock is fantastic
it's tied to apple's sever so unless you hack apple it isn't happening.
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 05:50 PM   #9
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It's remarkable to see how cheap "icloud locked" iphone's are on eBay. It doesn't seem to stop thieves, just puts a dent in their profits.
True. They can still sell them for parts. Not quite as lucrative as a fully functioning phone but parts are still a big market.
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 05:52 PM   #10
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Google's "Anti-theft" measures will be easily disabled by side-loading an APK - as always. Wait and see - if they can't stop piracy, how are these blithering dunderheads going to "fix" security of this importance?

I trust Google for security, like a bicycle made of jelly

they will probably just have locked bootloaders on all new phones so no more CM and other unofficial releases
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 05:54 PM   #11
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it's tied to apple's sever so unless you hack apple it isn't happening.
Explains why it can't be cracked then, thank you!
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 05:56 PM   #12
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it's tied to apple's sever so unless you hack apple it isn't happening.
But you could hack the firmware on the phone and prevent it from doing the check. Of course, this hasn't been done, but you don't necessarily need to hack into Apple's servers.
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Explains why it can't be cracked then, thank you!
The whitelisted phones were also on the Apple servers. Some people found a way around the carrier lock.
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 06:05 PM   #14
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So I can sell my iPhone and then screw over whom I sold it to?

You know this will happen.
Not as long as the buyer is wise. Bottom line is a buyer of a used cell phone would simply need to make sure that the iTunes/Google/etc. account is changed to their account prior to the seller leaving.
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 06:08 PM   #15
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This is great as other phones which are stolen can't be mine for data like my old phone I lost! :/
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 06:11 PM   #16
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Good for them.

How much did the 5S stop theft with Touch ID? Or was that just for convenience?
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Good for them.

How much did the 5S stop theft with Touch ID? Or was that just for convenience?
locking your phone with your fingerprint doesn't prevent someone from taking it.
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 06:16 PM   #18
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Voluntary my ass! I remember not too long ago reading or hearing how the UK and EU governments were requesting handset makers buck up their security because too many phones are getting stolen.
This is their response, they'll sell it as voluntary, but in reality they were most likely told to sort it out or else.

Still, it is a very good thing for the consumer.
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 06:22 PM   #19
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they will probably just have locked bootloaders on all new phones so no more CM and other unofficial releases
Do you even know anything about the boot loader?
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 06:32 PM   #20
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Good for them.

How much did the 5S stop theft with Touch ID? Or was that just for convenience?
It wasn't Touch ID in the 5s that was meant to deter theft. It was iOS7 and its Activation Lock feature that is enabled when you enable Find My iPhone on the device.
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 06:33 PM   #21
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Waiting for some politician to “request” the medical body part replacement industry to voluntary install a kill switch.

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Old Apr 15, 2014, 06:41 PM   #22
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What about Find my Mac?

These are good news for me too (I have an iPhone, and these features may be useful someday, I hope not)... BUT I think laptop Anti-Theft mesures are as important as phones.

My 13'' Mid-2012 MacBook Pro was stolen a few days ago... and iCloud (Find My Mac) has been useless so far. Somehow the thief managed to not get my MB locked or wiped as of today (it was stolen on April 11th).

The Location Services (GPS) should not depend on the state of the device, wether it is powered on or off, it should always be able to be tracked. Also, the Find My Mac feature should not be able to be turned off... if you do a clean OS install, and never connect the mac to internet, you just need to be careful to turn off Find My Mac before connecting it, and it will never get locked or found by iCloud.

There should be a way to make the device a brick, not only wipe it or lock it.

Many people are working on a way to violate all the Anti-Theft security implemented by Apple, and be sure someone will accomplish it soon, if they have not done it already.
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Good for them.

How much did the 5S stop theft with Touch ID? Or was that just for convenience?
More of a gimmick
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 06:57 PM   #24
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People still believe electronic devices are secure....laughable
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 07:12 PM   #25
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The lawsuit comes next....

Next we'll see a lawsuit from Apple against Google, HTC, Huawei, Motorola, Microsoft, Nokia and Samsung for violating their Activation Lock patents....



(And yes, I am joking: I actually have no idea if Activation Lock is patented/patentable.)
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