I have a feeling new updates are right around the corner. I personally do not have any issues with Safari 7.0.3, but my usage most likely differs.
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What grinds your gears in Mavericks?
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I have a feeling new updates are right around the corner. I personally do not have any issues with Safari 7.0.3, but my usage most likely differs.
Many gripes:
1) it makes my new MBP run as sluggish as the 2008 MBP it replaced - even on a fresh install
2) you can only get the latest iLife / iWork if you upgrade to Mavericks (otherwise I'd stick with Mountain Lion)
3) the login screen/ calendar/ reminders/ notes etc are plain and ugly
4) you can't terminal a 2D dock
There are quite a few new features which I like, but they don't outweigh the disadvantages. IMO this is the sloppiest OSX yet.
1) it makes my new MBP run as sluggish as the 2008 MBP it replaced - even on a fresh install
2) you can only get the latest iLife / iWork if you upgrade to Mavericks (otherwise I'd stick with Mountain Lion)
3) the login screen/ calendar/ reminders/ notes etc are plain and ugly
4) you can't terminal a 2D dock
There are quite a few new features which I like, but they don't outweigh the disadvantages. IMO this is the sloppiest OSX yet.
Network reinitialization after wakeup from sleep under 10.9.2 seems very time consuming. I often get Safari displaying the "You are not connected to the Internet" page after wakeup - takes a few Cmd-R reloads of the page before it seems to reconnect.
Then again, I am on a MacPro1,1 so I guess I can't be too picky.
Then again, I am on a MacPro1,1 so I guess I can't be too picky.
When I have a window open in an app (let's say, Preview) and I minimize that window to the dock, I was accustomed being able to click on the dock icon to bring that window back up onto the screen.
It seems like I can sometimes, maybe most of the time, still get this behavior.
But when I first installed Mavericks, one of the first things I noticed was that sometimes clicking on a running app would not bring its windows springing back onto the screen. I chalked it up to an early version bug.
But I still encounter it, sporadically. Just often enough that I sort of feel like I don't have good control over my window management. I think it's actually changed the way I use OS X. I now find myself spending time trying to figuring out the identities of the windows, based on their tiny minimized icons, because of the spotty response of the app-click method.
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You can be picky. We get the same behaviors on our MBA, MBP retina and iMac.
It seems like I can sometimes, maybe most of the time, still get this behavior.
But when I first installed Mavericks, one of the first things I noticed was that sometimes clicking on a running app would not bring its windows springing back onto the screen. I chalked it up to an early version bug.
But I still encounter it, sporadically. Just often enough that I sort of feel like I don't have good control over my window management. I think it's actually changed the way I use OS X. I now find myself spending time trying to figuring out the identities of the windows, based on their tiny minimized icons, because of the spotty response of the app-click method.
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Network reinitialization after wakeup from sleep under 10.9.2 seems very time consuming. I often get Safari displaying the "You are not connected to the Internet" page after wakeup - takes a few Cmd-R reloads of the page before it seems to reconnect.
Then again, I am on a MacPro1,1 so I guess I can't be too picky.
You can be picky. We get the same behaviors on our MBA, MBP retina and iMac.
Copy to mounted volume SLOW!
Copy to a mounted volume with GB Ethernet CAT5e is maxed at 60Mbps. Download from volume has not issue. I would get almost 800Mbps. This never used to be the case. 60Mbps write/upload speed is ridiculously embarrassing with AFP or even SMB on Mavericks.
Copy to a mounted volume with GB Ethernet CAT5e is maxed at 60Mbps. Download from volume has not issue. I would get almost 800Mbps. This never used to be the case. 60Mbps write/upload speed is ridiculously embarrassing with AFP or even SMB on Mavericks.
Can't help with #1-3, but you get a 2D dock here: Post number 136 for the download link to ver. 3.3 of cDock.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1657691/
Works great, and has many different docks to choose from (I love the transparent version).
Many thanks to wOlf, the developer for making this software and keeping it freeware.
Can't help with #1-3, but you get a 2D dock here: Post number 136 for the download link to ver. 3.3 of cDock.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1657691/
Works great, and has many different docks to choose from (I love the transparent version).
Many thanks to wOlf, the developer for making this software and keeping it freeware.
I've looked at some of the dock mods - too cynical to install that stuff. I keep thinking Apple is going to release and update and things will go awry.
I am always afraid to do any tinkering and then have the next update come along and all the tinkering I did raised issues with the update.
If I had to bitch about OS X, it would be changes they've made starting in Lion and progressing to Mavericks.
One would be the Save option in files. I know it's brought back to some extent using Alt-S, but who the Hell thought that little change up? I've seen more people totally trash perfectly good files using the strange and bizarre export option in Lion. They should have never changed this.
Another thing is that Time Machine no longer indicates it's doing a backup by looking at the icon. If I want to shut my system down, it might be in mid backup, and who knows how good a backup that will be? It's like they're trying to inferiorize the OS. Take something that makes sense and eliminate it.
The menu bar display preferences icon is now gone. Why? Was it dazing and confusing people?
I also miss scroll bar controls, the lack of color icons in stuff like mail and the sidebar of preferences windows, and to be honest, the lack of color and 3D effects in the scroll bar.
As a side note, I really don't like iOS 7 at all. The next time I look at phones/PDAs I'm certainly going to look Androids. I saw Jon Ivey's video about his new "clean" design and all I can say is it looks retarded to me. Glaring white everywhere, icons that look like they were done by high school students, and functionality that seems archaic and confusing. Ivey might be a great hardware designer, but he ain't no OS interface designer.
Making radical changes to stuff just to change it, especially when users like it is probably a bad idea. Look how many people are still clinging to Windows XP.
One would be the Save option in files. I know it's brought back to some extent using Alt-S, but who the Hell thought that little change up? I've seen more people totally trash perfectly good files using the strange and bizarre export option in Lion. They should have never changed this.
Another thing is that Time Machine no longer indicates it's doing a backup by looking at the icon. If I want to shut my system down, it might be in mid backup, and who knows how good a backup that will be? It's like they're trying to inferiorize the OS. Take something that makes sense and eliminate it.
The menu bar display preferences icon is now gone. Why? Was it dazing and confusing people?
I also miss scroll bar controls, the lack of color icons in stuff like mail and the sidebar of preferences windows, and to be honest, the lack of color and 3D effects in the scroll bar.
As a side note, I really don't like iOS 7 at all. The next time I look at phones/PDAs I'm certainly going to look Androids. I saw Jon Ivey's video about his new "clean" design and all I can say is it looks retarded to me. Glaring white everywhere, icons that look like they were done by high school students, and functionality that seems archaic and confusing. Ivey might be a great hardware designer, but he ain't no OS interface designer.
Making radical changes to stuff just to change it, especially when users like it is probably a bad idea. Look how many people are still clinging to Windows XP.
The inability to hide the recent documents and servers opened in the recent items list. I only use recent items for applications, kind of like a start menu in windows.
If anyone knows how to make it functions like Lion, Mountain Lion and Snow Leopard, please let me know. Something like THIS:
![recentitems2.jpg]()
Instead of everything lumped together like this atrocity:
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If anyone knows how to make it functions like Lion, Mountain Lion and Snow Leopard, please let me know. Something like THIS:
Instead of everything lumped together like this atrocity:
Exposé/Mission control
This to me a $%#$%^@# failure.
I want to see ALL the files not just from one application when i hit the "Application Window" hot corner.
"Displays have separate spaces" doesn't work.
This is just frickin exasperating. Please bring back exposé.
Mission Control is a nightmare.
APPLE please goddam fix it. I need to see all the files from aperture, lightroom, photoshop, illustrator, bridge, indesign and even finder, not just one program.
This to me a $%#$%^@# failure.
I want to see ALL the files not just from one application when i hit the "Application Window" hot corner.
"Displays have separate spaces" doesn't work.
This is just frickin exasperating. Please bring back exposé.
Mission Control is a nightmare.
APPLE please goddam fix it. I need to see all the files from aperture, lightroom, photoshop, illustrator, bridge, indesign and even finder, not just one program.
they basically just changed the name from expose to mission control..
set your hot corner to 'mission control' ..not 'application windows'..
that does what you want, right?
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heh.. partially blame me (i highly doubt i personally had anything to do with it but i have written apple twice in the past about labels not being too helpful for project organization).. their answer with 'tags' is better.. way better (imo)
also, for better or worse, you can assign colors to tags then multiple tags to files.. so you can have a file with blue,yellow,&red dots attached.. (better in my case-- but i understand some people may want to use labels simply as a means to make certain files visually pop off the screen.. i use all caps for folder names which i want see more readily but ymmv)
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Right! I'm holding you personally responsible for this!
Different workflows really. My job requires I have long lists of folders (5/6 created per day on average over a 2/3 month shooting schedule) but it's far far easier to keep them at root level on the drives for software purposes. We used to mark them green when dealt with, nothing when we hadn't touched them and red if there was a problem. Now that is quite difficult to work out.
Another good one for organisation is starting folder names with exclamation marks. Sticks it right at the top, though by the end of a project you end up with folder names like "!!!!!!!!!!! FINAL ASSEMBLIES.COPY.01_22052014_EXPORT"
Which is pretty
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Which is pretty
ha.. that is pretty
have you tried tagging yet? all of your 'dealt withs etc' can be found very easily (sort of like a smart folder without the hassle)..
or, you can sort folders by tags in finder:
idk, i'm kind of thinking if you were using labels as a means of project organization, set aside 15minutes or so to read about all the tagging options and you'll find them better/simpler/more powerful..
I can be a bit of a stick in he mud sometimes to be fair, and that does look pretty useful in that view
Weirdly, the finder version used by pro tools 10 still has the old system
![Screen_Shot_2014_04_24_at_18_31_00.png]()
Edit: Just thought I'd clear up, all the installers are either legally downloaded or disk images I've made, just realised how that screenshot might look.
Weirdly, the finder version used by pro tools 10 still has the old system
Edit: Just thought I'd clear up, all the installers are either legally downloaded or disk images I've made, just realised how that screenshot might look.
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No it doesn't. It just shows me all the files from one program.
I know it's called mission control now since ML or SL but APPLE is really trying it's luck by changing things
that don't need changing.
What happened to less is more? I think it has something to do with the founder buying the farm.
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People who work with multiple monitors and multiple programs like me want the old exposé version back because we like to pull pictures into different programs. For example photoshop to indesign, go into bridge, all by using the same corner.
Now this crap I'm sure is happening because of all the smaller 11-13"devices that don't have space to do squat.
No it doesn't. It just shows me all the files from one program.
I know it's called mission control now since ML or SL but APPLE is really trying it's luck by changing things
that don't need changing.
What happened to less is more? I think it has something to do with the founder buying the farm.
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People who work with multiple monitors and multiple programs like me want the old exposé version back because we like to pull pictures into different programs. For example photoshop to indesign, go into bridge, all by using the same corner.
Now this crap I'm sure is happening because of all the smaller 11-13"devices that don't have space to do squat.
lol.. i don't know what to tell you then.. i've had my topLeft corner as expose since panther or tiger.. i know what you're talking about.
i now have my top left corner set to 'mission control' and it does the same thing.
i also know what 'application windows' does because i also use it alot too.. only i get that one from a keystroke.. control-down arrow
do this:
push control-down arrow
now do this:
push control- up arrow
are you saying that both of those are doing the same thing? they're both only showing you 'application windows'?
are you even trying the stuff i said? did you change your hot corner from 'application windows' to 'mission control'?? did you try the control-up vs control-down keystrokes..
does this look like one application to you?
this is 'mission control' -- you're set to 'application windows'
the sandboxing is doing my head in, not so much in third party stuff but apps like mail where its turning simple applescripts to process attachments etc into a chore