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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:04 PM   #26
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There's a sizable contingent of iOS users who opted to stick with iOS 6 over iOS 7 due to the drastic visual changes introduced with the operating system update...
No, not really.

iOS 7 adoption is at >80% of compatible devices. Of those remaining I doubt many are consciously choosing to avoid iOS 7. Most are probably just lazy and haven't bothered to do the upgrade. That leaves just a small fraction of users who are clinging to iOS 6 on purpose, and only a subset of them might be using FaceTime. So in all, this impacts a small small number of users and the fix is easy. So deal with it.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:04 PM   #27
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This whole stubbornness of refusing to upgrade iOS 7 because of its new look is ridiculas and has gone on for too long. I got news for you, they're not changing the look anytime soon and if you want to buy an iPhone 6 this fall, your gonna have to get over it.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:04 PM   #28
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Thats another grumble, how it's a headline news article based on a set of scenario's that affect such a TINY proportion of current iOS users, and that TINY percentage are not those who frequent sites like this, so the target audience for this article MUST be people wanting to witness an angry mob arguing over things that do not affect them?

Or am I being picky now ?
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:05 PM   #29
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I must be naive. Why can't Apple just update the certificate?
Most likely the certificates are part of the base install of the os and not something they designed to be easily updated on their own. The software update feature of iOS only supports updating to the latest version available for the device, which if you have a device that supports 7, is 7.x.x. They don't support the average user downloading the os image and installing it manually. So its easier to just tell you to update to the latest (7 for devices that support it).

They probably also don't want to support 6 on older devices that can run 7 any more, and why should they? 6 is basically in security patch mode at this point and all their new feature development efforts will be going into 7.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:06 PM   #30
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I must be naive. Why can't Apple just update the certificate?
Why can't users just update their devices to the current version of iOS?
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:07 PM   #31
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Haha, good move to get those last stubborn people to update to iOS 7. Bravo Apple, I approve.
Wish I could up vote twice here! Couldn't agree more.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:07 PM   #32
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I must be naive. Why can't Apple just update the certificate?
They did! Did you not read? In 6.1.6 and 7.0.4!!
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:08 PM   #33
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iOS 1 was the best ANYTHING NEWER IS FUGLY The App Store is just bloated crap you don't need.

If I could install iOS 1 on my iPad Air, I would.

I assume you would rather have System 1 on your Mac...Having a color screen is just too distracting when trying to use MacWrite.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:08 PM   #34
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Bad form Apple. Using a screw up to force iOS upgrades on older devices is ... lame.

Fix iOS 6.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:09 PM   #35
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Haha, good move Apple, the certificate didn't really expire, they've done this deliberately!
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:09 PM   #36
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I am totally with Apple on this decision. Why people haven't upgraded to 7 is beyond me... iOS 6's design got old. People are scared because the icons change. They're just icons people! Look at all the new features you get! So picky.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:09 PM   #37
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Gutted. But not unexpected. Just when I think Apple's software support can't get any worse, it does.

At least Skype still works.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:11 PM   #38
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Bad form Apple. Using a screw up to force iOS upgrades on older devices is ... lame.

Fix iOS 6.
Why should they? Why can't people just update. That's the whole point of an update. People like you get mad because Apple pushes out updates, yet samsung, who doesn't push updates, is totally unpatched and no one bashes them. Just update. It's not a big deal. So the icons change, so what? They're amazing. iOS 7 is by far the best.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:11 PM   #39
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When did Facetime support 3gs(officially)?



Emmmmm.......
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:12 PM   #40
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LOL awesome! I can't wait to hear the whining! The tears of the luddities are like sweet nectar. Honestly, this couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people.
I can't wait for your car, iphone and everything you have to break down when you will need them the most. Hahaha, that will be so awesome. It's super cool to enjoy other's misery. Too bad I won't be there with a camera. Because it will happen some day. Everyone gets it some way or the other.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:12 PM   #41
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Glad my mom had a few months to learn on iOS 6. The ugly skeumorphism actually helped her.

Good luck in 7, ma.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:12 PM   #42
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Gutted. But not unexpected. Just when I think Apple's software support can't get any worse, it does.

At least Skype still works.
Be quiet. There's nothing wrong with "Apple's software." People are just scared because of change, change happens. We have to deal with it. Just update to 7... It's amazing. Apple's software is by far the best. Why don't you bash samsung instead of apple? They don't push updates out and patch holes. Their stinking Android OS has malware, phishing, and much more. Just be happy.

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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:12 PM   #43
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In-house software continues to be problematic for Apple - time to out source.

Can't even sort through a certificate problem - what's that tell you?
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:12 PM   #44
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Did Apple say how long people still using iOS 6.1.6 would be able to make calls with Facetime?
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:14 PM   #45
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Cue the conspiracy theorists
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:14 PM   #46
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Did Apple say how long people still using iOS 6.1.6 would be able to make calls with Facetime?
They'll be able to make FaceTime calls for now on, probably. If it's the highest you can go, it should continue to work.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:14 PM   #47
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Most likely the certificates are part of the base install of the os and not something they designed to be easily updated on their own. The software update feature of iOS only supports updating to the latest version available for the device, which if you have a device that supports 7, is 7.x.x. They don't support the average user downloading the os image and installing it manually. So its easier to just tell you to update to the latest (7 for devices that support it).

They probably also don't want to support 6 on older devices that can run 7 any more, and why should they? 6 is basically in security patch mode at this point and all their new feature development efforts will be going into 7.
Bravo! I'm not sure that this is correct, but it is a sensible (read: non-conspiracy theory), and concise description that really makes sense to me. Just wanted to give some kudos.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:15 PM   #48
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Be quiet. There's nothing wrong with "Apple's software." People are just scared because of change, change happens. We have to deal with it. Just update to 7... It's amazing. Apple's software is by far the best. Why don't you bash samsung instead of apple? They don't push updates out and patch holes. They're stinking Android OS has malware, phishing, and much more. Just be happy.
I really hoping that is sarcasm.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:15 PM   #49
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I am totally with Apple on this decision. Why people haven't upgraded to 7 is beyond me... iOS 6's design got old. People are scared because the icons change. They're just icons people! Look at all the new features you get! So picky.
Yep, they'll upgrade and think "why didn't I do this sooner?".

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Bad form Apple. Using a screw up to force iOS upgrades on older devices is ... lame.

Fix iOS 6.
Time to move on. Update to iOS 7.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 02:17 PM   #50
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In-house software continues to be problematic for Apple - time to out source.
It's not problematic! They want people to update! What is the big deal with updating your freaking iOS device? You'd be complaining if they never updated it and now you're complaining because they are! Man. Go bash samsung.

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I really hoping that is sarcasm.
That's not sarcasm. It's the truth. I mean, come on. If they didn't release updates you'd be complaining and they do and you're complaining.

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Yep, they'll upgrade and think "why didn't I do this sooner?".

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Time to move on. Update to iOS 7.
Thank you for agreeing.
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