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Old Jul 1, 2014, 02:11 PM   #1
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Aperture Replacement 'Photos' to Offer Image Search, Editing, Effects and Plugins




Last week, Apple announced that the company would be discontinuing their Aperture photo management software to focus development on the new Photos app that was introduced at WWDC. Details on Apple's new Photos app, however, remains scarce, leaving Aperture users with a lot of uncertainty.

Ars Technica was able to get additional information from an Apple representative, who indicated that certain professional-grade features would be coming to the new Photos app:
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When asked about what Aperture-like features users can expect from the new Photos app, an Apple representative mentioned plans for professional-grade features such as image search, editing, effects, and most notably, third-party extensibility.
Some of these editing features are already depicted in the screenshot that Apple released of Photos at the time of the announcement:

The screenshot shows an adjustments panel with settings for Light (Exposure, Highlights, Shadows, Brightness, Contrast, Blacks), Color (Saturation, Contrast, Cast), Black & White (Hue Strength, Neutral Boost, Photo Tone, Grain), Definition, Vignette, White Balance, and Levels.

Apple has promised that existing Aperture users will be able to import their libraries into the new OS X Photos app. Photos is expected to be released early next year.

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Old Jul 1, 2014, 02:14 PM   #2
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"certain professional-grade features would be coming to the new Photos app:"

I wonder then if it will have less then features then if only certain features will be added.
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Old Jul 1, 2014, 02:14 PM   #3
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That is good news. It better be better than Aperture.
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What about stacks, faces, cropped images?
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Sounds like they are merging the products, not so much doing away with them per se.
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Old Jul 1, 2014, 02:16 PM   #6
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Glad to at least hear more official info from Apple. All the negative speculation makes me sad. Can't wait for a beta version.
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Old Jul 1, 2014, 02:17 PM   #7
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What about stacks, faces, cropped images?
Those really don't sound like professional tools since you could do them already in iPhoto. I have a feeling they won't take away from iPhoto. Fingers crossed they don't anyway.
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Old Jul 1, 2014, 02:17 PM   #8
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Happy to take the Yosemite update for Aperture, it gives me at least another 18 months before I have to decide what I'll do.


So far, Aperture has met most, if not all, of my photo needs.
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I am currently assuming that this Photos app will be a free upgrade when it comes out, but with the Aperture features, will it be free?

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Old Jul 1, 2014, 02:20 PM   #10
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Get rid of iPhoto, combine this and make it free! That's a good direction for apple. Lately all their things have been done for the consumers but no real professional moves have been done. Just like how they killed their servers a while back now but still manage to sell OSX server.
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I'm super excited for image search—really anything to make pouring through thousands of photos easier is welcomed. It would be lovely to have many search options, like group by color, overall appearance, location, etc. and even have plugins to support many different search parameters.

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Sounds like they are merging the products, not so much doing away with them per say.
Yup, seems like you're right.

80% of the features between iPhoto and Aperture were redundant anyways. Might as well combine them and pool all the resources together. There may be growing pains but in the long run it will be a better solution for 99% of their market. The real hardcore pros will stick to Lightroom like they have been using for the past few years anyways.
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Get rid of iPhoto, combine this and make it free! That's a good direction for apple. Lately all their things have been done for the consumers but no real professional moves have been done. Just like how they killed their servers a while back now but still manage to sell OSX server.
I thought that was what they were doing. iPhoto and Aperture won't be anymore, just "Photos".
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That is good news. It better to better than Aperture.
Why should it be better than Aperture? There's no way it will be and it's not supposed to be. It's a replacement for iPhoto, not a replacement for Aperture. They're killing Aperture and will no longer have a prosumer Photo app.
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One fear is that they do away with the prof. grade RAW functions in Aperture. Today one thing Apple spend a lot of time on is the constant updating of cameras in this area.
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But what about iPhoto Events?

But will we be able to find photos by events? I've spent quite a while sorting my iPhoto library into Events... I'd like for all of my photos not to stay sorted…
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Old Jul 1, 2014, 02:31 PM   #17
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I'm really encouraged by this. Of course, the proof is in the pudding, but I like the looks of it and the left panel has most of what I already use. Add to this that they have said it will support 3rd party plugin's and it might just be a winner.
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Yup, seems like you're right.

80% of the features between iPhoto and Aperture were redundant anyways. Might as well combine them and pool all the resources together. There may be growing pains but in the long run it will be a better solution for 99% of their market. The real hardcore pros will stick to Lightroom like they have been using for the past few years anyways.
I do hope you are right. I am not a hardcore pro, but I do like to do some level of editing on photos, and for the most part Aperture seems to do the trick. And I really want nothing to do with Adobe.
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I would imagine that with the upset last week's 'announcement' caused, that by the time this is in the wild any meaningful Aperture migration will be irrelevant to most users who will have already moved everything to Capture One Pro or Lightroom.

I mean, who's (out of Current Aperture users) really going to wait until next year to see if photos might just be OK? Even after this meaningful back peddling which though inevitable in the wake of the bluntness of announcing Aperture's death, is still a pathetic excuse for crucial information to people who rely on Aperture.

Personally I switched to C1Pro and suggest you do the same, especially if you don't like Lightroom.

As much as I'd like to think that Apple's next Photos app is going to be a professional grade tool, I think they've made it obvious that a professional workstation is not where Apple's future's at.

I'm not going to hang around noodling in Aperture's old architecture while there are better, more competitive alternatives, right now, today.

I can't think of one good reason for any pro photographer who used Aperture to remain faithfully loyal to these apps while Apple remorselessly turns the screw.

OSX is wicked, and So are Macs from the top down, but don't confuse Apple's expertise in computing with their lack of specialist knowledge in this situation. The pro market is not a big enough market for them, so why wouldn't they leave it to someone else?

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I do hope you are right. I am not a hardcore pro, but I do like to do some level of editing on photos, and for the most part Aperture seems to do the trick. And I really want nothing to do with Adobe.
Adobe is not the only alternative.
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I really hope this program lives up to Apple's hype. And I'm sure it will improve over time, but it won't have anywhere near the capability that aperture had. For those that need it. At least not at this time.
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What about stacks, faces, cropped images?
Who said the new App won't have it?
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From the little I can see, Photos looks like it's an intermediate level app when it comes to editing. It's a bit beyond the basics, but not advanced enough to compete with Lightroom, for example.

As much as I've come to depend on Aperture, and I feel annoyed that if I want anything pro-level in the future, I'll have to subscribe to Lightroom (Photoshop integration is a huge plus), I see the strategic purpose of this move.

Many people have expressed their distaste with the way iPhoto and Aperture manage photo libraries from a file system standpoint. (It never really bothered me since it makes more sense to browse by image-relevant info rather than generic file info.)

It looks like Apple wants to give its expanding user base an all-in-one photo management solution. One that solves the modern problem of managing a photo library that grows daily, across multiple devices, with an editing UI that is approachable and unintimidating, but can also provide more fine-grain control to give people something to “grow into.”
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One fear is that they do away with the prof. grade RAW functions in Aperture. Today one thing Apple spend a lot of time on is the constant updating of cameras in this area.
They won't.

RAW functionality is system-wide.

Although I prefer the Nikon engine for processing my RAW's.
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Why should it be better than Aperture? There's no way it will be and it's not supposed to be. It's a replacement for iPhoto, not a replacement for Aperture. They're killing Aperture and will no longer have a prosumer Photo app.
Hate to break it to you, but nobody knows if that's quite the truth yet. We can hope it'll be pro as well as consumer, can't we? Or is this against the rules?
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I am currently assuming that this Photos app will be a free upgrade when it comes out, but with the Aperture features, will it be free?
It really should be free.

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