True, but then you open the door for some problems. Generally people who are willing to sink £1000+ into a laptop have done their research and know why they need it -- and how to use it.
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True, but then you open the door for some problems. Generally people who are willing to sink £1000+ into a laptop have done their research and know why they need it -- and how to use it.
Windows 8.1 is re-gaining market share
Congratulations to Lenovo, well deserved. They cater to multiple sectors of the market and their high end products are very impressive. And so does Dell, and so does HP.
And btw, touch on a laptop grows on you. No, you don't replace your keyboard and mouse, and you still use them heavily, but for certain things that you wish you can touch the screen, now you can.
Apple will add touch to its laptops and desktops in 2017, call it touchulationary or something like that, and then we all will be all over it saying how it makes so much sense
Congratulations to Lenovo, well deserved. They cater to multiple sectors of the market and their high end products are very impressive. And so does Dell, and so does HP.
And btw, touch on a laptop grows on you. No, you don't replace your keyboard and mouse, and you still use them heavily, but for certain things that you wish you can touch the screen, now you can.
Apple will add touch to its laptops and desktops in 2017, call it touchulationary or something like that, and then we all will be all over it saying how it makes so much sense
Limied choices limit sales
Here lies my issue with Apple's current computer line, if Apple does not make a computer that fits your needs, you need to fit your needs to Apples offerings. While Apple's line up fits a fairly wide spectrum, there are gaps. I consider myself as falling into those gaps.
Currently Apple makes no computer that fits what I want. Mini: not powerful enough, iMac: utterly opposed to all-in-one format, MacBookPro: no anti-glare option, MacPro: too limited and too costly. Sure I could just suck it up and deal with the aspects I dislike, or I can continue too hang on for dear life to the machines I obtained when they built products I didn't have to compromise what I wanted.
Here lies my issue with Apple's current computer line, if Apple does not make a computer that fits your needs, you need to fit your needs to Apples offerings. While Apple's line up fits a fairly wide spectrum, there are gaps. I consider myself as falling into those gaps.
Currently Apple makes no computer that fits what I want. Mini: not powerful enough, iMac: utterly opposed to all-in-one format, MacBookPro: no anti-glare option, MacPro: too limited and too costly. Sure I could just suck it up and deal with the aspects I dislike, or I can continue too hang on for dear life to the machines I obtained when they built products I didn't have to compromise what I wanted.
And if Apple had 1000 different models of laptops starting at rock-bottom prices, it probably would be "Apple passes Lenovo". And you'd say "not surprising, Apple's quality has suffered to cater for the cheaper budget"
The guy's point was perfectly valid, and if you've had experience with the quality of Lenovo products and the way they try to fob them to resellers, you'd be saying the same thing too.
Of course, everything Apple releases is quality. Such as the iPad 3, now that's a quality product, well engineered, well designed, no heat problems, and didn't get obsolete in just 6 months. It was not rushed... at all.
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Cool, I forgot about the iPad being a computer and relevant to this discussion. Thanks for reminding us.
This is very simple. Flashback April 8th of this year: Microsoft ceases support for Windows XP.
What did that mean? Every school and business that used XP needed to upgrade either their OS or computer. But most Windows users do not upgrade OSes, they just buy a new computer because the old one either doesn't meet or barely meets minimum install requirements.
What does that mean? That this is likely a blip and has more to do with Windows than Apple's Mac lineup.
What did that mean? Every school and business that used XP needed to upgrade either their OS or computer. But most Windows users do not upgrade OSes, they just buy a new computer because the old one either doesn't meet or barely meets minimum install requirements.
What does that mean? That this is likely a blip and has more to do with Windows than Apple's Mac lineup.
Same here...my HP laptop just keeps chugging along. Fantastic value for me as it was ~$750 and has lasted ~6 years. Still my primary travel computer.
Apple is not about dominating the share of shipments/units sold market, it about dominating the share of the profit market. The many other firms are pumping out vast numbers of cheaper units and writing red or thin black margins.
My company have had HP laptops and now use Lenovo laptops, they don't have had any problem, no overheating, no HD problems, anything.
My next laptop will be an Air retina or a Pro retina but my late 2010 Air is one of the hottest laptops I have had
For Most People
a PC just needs to get on the internet
and a smartphone just needs to Text, FB, and take Pix
thats it...
Watches, Glasses and whatever nerd wearables are junk no one needs
there is a reason Paris and Milan are fashion capitals NOT the valley
a PC just needs to get on the internet
and a smartphone just needs to Text, FB, and take Pix
thats it...
Watches, Glasses and whatever nerd wearables are junk no one needs
there is a reason Paris and Milan are fashion capitals NOT the valley
Been setting up T430's, T430s's, T420's. We order them on contract with MARKit. Headquaters doesn't allow us to order T440 as they are "too expensive". We had 2 T440's come through but those we specifically setup for managers. Perhaps lenovo wouldn't be so bad if they didn't revise models so often. We order both Desktop and Laptops every other week, and the model literally always has a little physical adjustment, wether it's the keyboard. The placement of Ethernet Ports and USB ports, Wifi Switch. It's literally something else everytime. Don't even get me started on Lenovo Solution Center.. it's a ****ing nightmare. Seriously any other company does it better than lenovo, and it's still expensive that's the worst thing about it.
It's not, but I want to point out that the claim that everything Apple releases is 'high quality, premium' product is not true, not recently at least. Apple, just like all other companies on that list, have their ups and downs.
We can't keep playing the quality card to justify Apple's shrinking market share.
Airs use the aluminium shell to disperse heat. They may feel hotter but the thermal system is considerably more advanced, and the CPU runs less hot than the equivalent Wintel does (when doing the same job, not to say the Airs don't hit 100C under stress).
Regrettably I don't quite believe your company's HP and Lenovo laptops have been faultless, but that's more reflective of my bias from a myriad of bad experiences rather than an accusation against your honesty.
15" schenker xmg a504
quadcore i7 2.9 ghz, boost up to 3.9ghz
16 gbram
1 tb hard drive
256 gb ssd
geforce gtx 860m
bluray burner
1703€
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15" retina MacBook Pro
quadcore i7 2.0 ghz, boost up to 3.2ghz
8 gb ram
256 gb flash storage
iris pro
no optical drive
1999€
tell me about it. and dont tell me the retina display is totally worth it. dell sells laptops with resolutions slightly higher than retina, they just dont make a fuss about it.
but yeah, if you exclusively look at ultrabooks, they are also expensive with samsung or asus
Yes but Apple is at the other extreme end of the spectrum. Every machine they have is incredibly specific niche. If they had just a little more variety they would do better. I WANT to buy a new mac now, but nothing they have makes sense for me. I'm going to hold on to my pre 2013 mac pro until they thing dies, then if they haven't made something more inline with what I want I'm probably going to go back to PC's with Linux.
Also, even though the "Apple Tax" has been pretty much debunked, because they don't have anything that is cheaper everyone still assumes they are too expensive and doesn't consider them. I recommend Mac's to all my friends and family and their initial reaction is always "thats too much money." You can tell by their recent changes to their iPhone product line they are aware of this, though they clearly didn't take it too seriously. There is a danger that doing so will affect their overall image.
They don't feel hotter, they are hotter in my legs. And if the thermal system is more advanced I don't know why they are so noisy, perhaps my HP i7 laptop is really primitive and it can make so much noise than my Core 2 Duo Air, perhaps it is because primitive systems that don't use aluminum don't need do much fans to spread the heat like the Air
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Preaching to the choir, matey. It took me 3 years and my mate getting through 4 Wintels (added together, exceeding the value of a new Mac!) before he actually listened to me and jumped ship.
Of course, it won't stop them complaining to you whenever anything goes wrong with the computer you told them not to buy.
Its also funny that while they are this way with their PC's, look at how many different version of the iPad they offer.
What's limited about the Mac Pro? It has a higher repairability score than older Mac Pro's and has mostly replaceable parts, RAM, HDD, processor, and GPU.
Battery life on that 'Schenker'? Build quality? Lightness? Thinness? These are all hardware aspects as well, even if they don't matter to you.
What about support? Repair time?
(psst, if you want to just compare those specs: the SSD in the Retina MacBook Pro is PCI-e, much quicker than the SATA SSD. Also, the CPU in the 15" rMBP are made exclusively for Apple and you can't find them in any other Wintels. But just overlook that too?)
I really hate posts like these . You people act like Steve did everything PERFECTLY when he was CEO . There's nothing wrong with Apple's current line of computers .
Would be nice if Apple updated the Mac mini. I mean, the thing has chips from over two years ago....
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