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Frequently Asked Questions About NVIDIA PC (non-EFI) Graphics Cards

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DMG (30.9MB) is still corrupted

http://us.download.nvidia.com/Mac/cuda_6_0/cudadriver_6.0.54_macos.dmg

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Asgorath said:
Should be plug-and-play, no worries at all. You won't get a boot screen as discussed in the OP, but that shouldn't be an issue.
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Beautiful little card. Very rare in that it has Dual MDP ports so you can run 2 @ ACDs.

We do an EFI version, sent Barefeats a pair for testing, pretty sure he published.
 
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Thanks for the replies

I'm glad to hear it should work. I do like the 2 mini-display ports. And the smaller size may help for heat in the Mac. Very few seem available here in town (Toronto), but I've found one for 295 CDN (250-ish US), so I'm shopping tomorrow.

I'm not too worried about no EFI = no boot screen. So long as all works once booted, I'm happy. Need that CUDA.

So big thanks to all 3 so far that responded with advice.
 
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Follow up on MSI GeForce GTX 760 Gaming ITX 2GB

Dropped in the card on the 3,1 this morning and it booted fine. I did update the Nvidia driver and Cuda. I'd forgotten I hadn't upped from 10.9.3 to .4 (the machine stood idle until I put the temp old vid card in, so I missed the update.

I think then I updated the drivers again and all was good there.

Also, I did need to pop into Terminal to add the 760 to the supported card list in both AE and Premiere. I found this link as a guide, and it was pretty simple.

http://www.tonymacx86.com/graphics/...-cs6-ae-cs6-gtx-660ti-other-nvidia-cards.html

Anyway, just wanted to drop that info for anyone thinking of doing the same thing.
 
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For what it's worth, here are my experiences upgrading a friend's MP 3,1 (2008) running Mavericks 10.9.3. Both these cards are commodity PC cards with stock PC BIOSes:

Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti (GF114), model GV-N560OC-1GI: Not stable at all. Multiple issues, including: occasionally lose video output entirely, even when the screensaver is not activated and machine is not asleep; constant crashing/hanging in FCPX. Upgrading to Nvidia web drivers made it more stable, but the 2nd DVI quit working and it can never be awoken from sleep. Summary: basic nightmare.

EVGA GTX 650 (GK107) "SuperClocked", model 01G-P4-2652-KR: Exhibited same inability to wake from sleep using Nvidia's drivers, but works perfectly with the built-in 10.9.3 driver. No sleep issues, no loss of video output, no FCPX crashing. 10.9.4 seems to be stable as well.

HTH!
 
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Has there been any success in getting any card to run under windows using PCIe 2?

One of the reasons I want a new card is for gaming and other uses while booted in windows 7. I need dual monitor support too. I have a 4,1.
Sorry if this has been mentioned before; this thread is extremely difficult to search.
 
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Kolvir

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MacVidCards said:
Nvidia cards need to be flashed to fix this. Each model has required a different mod to turn it on.
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Is there a guide on how to do this somewhere? Also, How do you tell what speed or protocol (PCIe 1 vs 2) a card is running at?


Say I buy a GTX 760. It would work out of the box at PCIe 2 on 10.9.4 out of the box, but it would need to be flashed to get PCIe 2 under windows, right?

I've also had difficulty in figuring out the power cable needed. The photo on amazon shows a 8 pin to two 6 pin connectors. I'm not sure what I need here. Can I hook this up straight to two six pin connectors in the Mac or do I need a low profile adapter? Or, does this card need an external power source? That would be bad.

I hope to buy a card in the next few days, I appreciate any help.



I should mention that I have been looking at EVGA GeForce GTX760 at Amazon and it is from photos of the box contents that had me wondering about the correct power cable.
 
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MacGamver

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Kolvir said:
Is there a guide on how to do this somewhere? Also, How do you tell what speed or protocol (PCIe 1 vs 2) a card is running at?


Say I buy a GTX 760. It would work out of the box at PCIe 2 on 10.9.4 out of the box, but it would need to be flashed to get PCIe 2 under windows, right?

I've also had difficulty in figuring out the power cable needed. The photo on amazon shows a 8 pin to two 6 pin connectors. I'm not sure what I need here. Can I hook this up straight to two six pin connectors in the Mac or do I need a low profile adapter? Or, does this card need an external power source? That would be bad.

I hope to buy a card in the next few days, I appreciate any help.



I should mention that I have been looking at EVGA GeForce GTX760 at Amazon and it is from photos of the box contents that had me wondering about the correct power cable.
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Yes that should work out of the box, plug-n-play. You will need the two 6 pin cables, but beware; if it comes with some, they may not work. If you have existing cables in your Mac, use those. If not, post #1 here has links for what you need.

Also, yes on the PCIe speeds in Mac vs. windows
 
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Kolvir

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MacGamver said:
Also, yes on the PCIe speeds in Mac vs. windows
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Is it because the Mac Pro does not have BIOS that the card runs at PCIe 1 under windows?

How do I flash it as mentioned above to get it to run under windows at PCIe 2? Will it effect the card when booted into OS X if I do flash it?

Thanks for the help, I have wanted a new card for quite some time and am excited about finally getting one.
 
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MP 3.1 Gtx 650 and Parallels/Virtualbox emulation SL

Hello
I'm considering to finally upgrade from Snow Leopard to ML and to get a GTX 650 2Gb on my MP 3.1. Just some questions for you:

- For some software I need Rosetta so I'll install Parallels or Virtualbox to emulate Snow Leopard server, does the GTX 650 card work for emulation?

- emulating Windows under Parallels or Virtualbox too?

- sometimes I need to use Final Cut, does the GTX 650 card work for it?

- Is it better a 1 Gb 650 Ti or a 2 Gb not Ti?

Thanks
 
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antonioc said:
Hello
I'm considering to finally upgrade from Snow Leopard to ML and to get a GTX 650 2Gb on my MP 3.1. Just some questions for you:

- For some software I need Rosetta so I'll install Parallels or Virtualbox to emulate Snow Leopard server, does the GTX 650 card work for emulation?

- emulating Windows under Parallels or Virtualbox too?

- sometimes I need to use Final Cut, does the GTX 650 card work for it?

- Is it better a 1 Gb 650 Ti or a 2 Gb not Ti?

Thanks
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1) I would think the card would work just fine for emulation.

2) Yes, this works for FCP, just install the CUDA driver as well.

3) Hmm... I would think the 2GB not Ti would be a better choice. You can get a 2GB Ti for about the same price anyway.
 
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For UK folks.

This works, perfectly. GTX 760 in a mac pro 4.1 (2.66, 2009)

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-...hz-gddr5-gpu-1072mhz-boost-1137mhz-cores-1152

It uses two 6Pin power connections. Cables available here.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291172651139?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

I installed the Nvidia drivers for 10.9.4 listed on the first post before I installed the card but you don't need to.

I don't have Win 8 installed at the moment so can't test but I'll post back when I can.

Pretty quiet card too.
 
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MacGamver

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Hmm... still behaving weird under 10.9.4; After rebooting from windows, it boots fine, then about ~2 minutes into operation, it reboots again. I'm going to try the stock drivers until 10.9.5 or the next NVidia patch...
 
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I'm getting an update needed box every time I boot into os X, even though I have the latest CUDA drivers. The latest driver came out on 7/29 and it is the one listed that I have installed. Any way to make it go away? I've told the Nvidia preferences not to check for updates and it didn't help.
 

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^^^^You don't have the latest Cuda Driver. Scroll up this page and look at my Post #1479.

Lou
 
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After a few days of usage I'm quite disappointed of Gtx 650 Ti 2 gb performance on my Mac Pro 3.1 (2x2.8 Ghz with 10 Gb Ram, 250 Gb SSD, OsX 10.8.5).
CUDA Driver Version: 6.0.54
GPU driver Version 8.16.78 310.40.00.20f04

With the old Ati 5450 I never had a lag with InDesign CS 6, now every time I move an image o resize a window I must wait for redraw.

Watching a Flash low definition video in Chrome, fun starts after a few seconds (with 5450 it never happened).

I must use this card because I need to use now Mac Os X 10.8.x (the 5450 doens't work with it). I'm not happy at all
 
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antonioc said:
After a few days of usage I'm quite disappointed of Gtx 650 Ti 2 gb performance on my Mac Pro 3.1 (2x2.8 Ghz with 10 Gb Ram, 250 Gb SSD, OsX 10.8.5).
CUDA Driver Version: 6.0.54
GPU driver Version 8.16.78 310.40.00.20f04

With the old Ati 5450 I never had a lag with InDesign CS 6, now every time I move an image o resize a window I must wait for redraw.

Watching a Flash low definition video in Chrome, fun starts after a few seconds (with 5450 it never happened).

I must use this card because I need to use now Mac Os X 10.8.x (the 5450 doens't work with it). I'm not happy at all
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Why don't you try a more recent OS with newer drivers? Mavericks is free, after all.
 
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