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Old Aug 8, 2014, 05:53 PM   #1
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FCC Questioning All Carriers On Unlimited Throttling Policies




According to FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler, the United States Federal Communications Commission is now questioning all wireless carriers on their network management policies, asking how carriers choose when to throttle customers, including those with unlimited data plans.

In a report from Reuters, Wheeler said that the FCC had written to all major U.S. carriers about its concerns on throttling practices following its inquisition into Verizon's upcoming plan to throttle unlimited data customers during peak usage times.
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"My concern in this instance - and it's not just with Verizon, by the way, we've written to all the carriers - is that it is moving from a technology and engineering issue to the business issues ... such as choosing between different subscribers based on your economic relationship with them."
Last week, after Verizon announced plans to slow down the data speeds of unlimited customers using heavy amounts of data, the FCC questioned the carrier about its policies, with Wheeler stating that he was "deeply troubled" by the decision.

Verizon responded, suggesting its throttling plans were both fair and legal, and likely to impact only a small subset of customers. Verizon also noted that several other carriers, like Sprint, AT&T, and T-Mobile all have unlimited data restrictions in place. According to Wheeler, pointing towards the policies of other carriers was not a sufficient response. "'All the kids do it' was never something that worked for me when I was growing up," he said.

AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile have long had policies in place that allow the carriers to opt to restrict the data usage of customers with grandfathered unlimited plans in an effort to encourage users to switch to pay-by-usage tiered data plans.

While the FCC did not share the letters sent to AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint, an FCC spokesperson said the letters were similar in nature to the original letter sent to Verizon. That letter asked the carrier to answer specific questions on its rationale for treating customers differently on plan type, the need for such throttling on efficient LTE networks, and the legality of throttling.

Verizon was the first to receive the letter because of the announcement of a new policy, according to the FCC spokesperson. Verizon will begin throttling its high-usage off-contract LTE customers accessing congested network cells beginning on October 1.

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Old Aug 8, 2014, 05:55 PM   #2
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Wanna know why nothing will come of this?

Because they ARE the FCC.
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 05:59 PM   #3
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Isn't this a political thread?! Sounds like a state interference policy to me.... And that's coming from someone in the UK...
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 06:02 PM   #4
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Isn't this a political thread?! Sounds like a state interference policy to me.... And that's coming from someone in the UK...
No one's called anyone a socialist, commie, or fascist yet. Give it about page 2...
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Isn't this a political thread?! Sounds like a state interference policy to me.... And that's coming from someone in the UK...
How is regulating a regulated industry unusual?

The funny part is, in the last thread, you had people screaming that Verizon was being picked on. Now, it's clear they aren't. You also have the group who scream and complain that the consumer is unprotected in the U.S., which is refuted somewhat by this. Lastly, get ready for the people who would love for the wireless industry to dilute their services to us (while maintaining or raising costs per service) because any protection from crappy policies is crudely labeled "state interference."
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BIGGEST BS EVER... Lets throttle someone because they have used a lot of gigs so far... So what if they signed up for Unlimited data.. And so what if its 3 am and no one else is using the towers.. Lets still throttle their data... But ey.. if u go over to this plan.. And pay for more of our amazing fast data.. U can get those fast speeds all day long.. Its just stupid... AT&T and all the other carriers are able to renig on their end of the deal.. But as soon as we want to.. We have to pay the penalty...
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Isn't this a political thread?! Sounds like a state interference policy to me.... And that's coming from someone in the UK...
The fact that it is a governmental body looking into questionable business practices should NOT make it a political issue. Governmental bodies regulate ALL aspects of businesses.... so there literally would be nothing at all that would not thus be considered political.
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 06:07 PM   #8
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I believe this needs to be moved to the political section.

On topic: I can see this issue ending with all the major carriers just canceling any sort of grandfathered unlimited plans (well, except for T-mobile)...
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 06:08 PM   #9
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Just so you know, I called Wheeler and asked him to I intervene....


By the way, isn't putting this thread directly into the political area with nary a comment being made a form of profiling?
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 06:12 PM   #10
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not sure what they mean about throttling t-mobile on unlimited plans...been on there unlimited data plan for over a year now and never been throttled...even up to 24 gigs of data in one month...
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 06:18 PM   #11
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I hear you about the contract thing. The deal was unlimited. But did the contract mention the speed at which said unlimited data would be sent at?

I for one would think it would/should be at the same speed as the majority so subscribers.
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 06:21 PM   #12
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Isn't this a political thread?! Sounds like a state interference policy to me.... And that's coming from someone in the UK...
corporations exist at the forbearance of government. Government allows their charters and maintains a court system to enforce their contracts. Government builds an infrastructure that facilitates commerce.

Government is the people, and The People have a say in the activities of corporations doing business in their countries.
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Lastly, get ready for the people who would love for the wireless industry to dilute their services to us (while maintaining or raising costs per service) because any protection from crappy policies is crudely labeled "state interference."
Fourthly, get ready for people who think that the government can both lower prices and improve services in an industry by decree. Also known as people who never made it past Econ 101.
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not sure what they mean about throttling t-mobile on unlimited plans...been on there unlimited data plan for over a year now and never been throttled...even up to 24 gigs of data in one month...
Thats because for the most part when you pay for it T-Mobiles unlimited data it is unlimited. But I've had a few people who got throttled at times even when on there unlimited plan.
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yei FCC!

I hate that AT&T throttles me after exactly 5GB to speeds of 0.15MB/sec or less making a webpage take about 3 mins just to load, maybe if they weren't that ridiculous w/ the throttling many wouldn't complain.
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 06:27 PM   #16
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Looks like someone isn't paying the FCC enough money now.
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Isn't this a political thread?! Sounds like a state interference policy to me.... And that's coming from someone in the UK...
take your dry joke back to the UK please
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Government is the people
I agreed with you until this statement. Government is not the people. The people are individuals, who all have different wants and desires. The government merely represents at least 51% of the desires of at least 51% of the population.

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Looks like someone isn't paying the FCC enough money now.
There is an election coming up. Trying to rally the base?

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I hate that AT&T throttles me after exactly 5GB to speeds of 0.15MB/sec or less making a webpage take about 3 mins just to load, maybe if they weren't that ridiculous w/ the throttling many wouldn't complain.
Alternatively, perhaps if you paid for a tiered data plan, they wouldn't throttle you at all.
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At least it can bring this crime to light!!
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"Oh wait, other carriers do this too? Why didn't anybody tell us this before we made that announcement..."
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I agreed with you until this statement. Government is not the people. The people are individuals, who all have different wants and desires. The government merely represents at least 51% of the desires of at least 51% of the population.[COLOR="#808080"]
It's more of a theoretical ideal than a practical reality, however I find your deconstruction to be rather bizarre. Within the US at least, government mainly represents the desires of the extremely wealthy, corporations, and the well connected.

People in the lower economic quintiles have very little representation in government. This is a direct function of how the political system in the US works. We have a tyranny of a two party system that's really a two headed single party committed to promoting the Washington DC establishment consensus.
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 06:36 PM   #24
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Part of me wonders if this is a ploy to get all the carriers to just stop offering unlimited entirely.
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And so the carriers can finally get rid of any grandfathered contracts once and for all. There is no commitment by the carrier to indefinitely extend the contract every 2 years.
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