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Old Aug 13, 2014, 07:38 AM   #26
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Final quality assurance? Seems a bit late doesn't it. They sold about 10 million of the things last year in the first weekend. There's about 40 days until a probable launch, need to have say 20 million on hand, that's 500,000 a day or about 20,000 an hour every hour from now until then, 6 every second.

All to be assembled, tested, boxed, have iOS put on them at the end.

There was a rumor of 100,000 people hired to build them, say that's 4 shifts, 25,000 working each shift. So one phone gets 25,000 / 6 people seconds of build time or about an hour.

Seems a little short to me.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 07:39 AM   #27
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Jony: "Alright, everyone happy with their new iPhones?"
Executive Team: *looks at the protruding camera* "ummmm...suuuurrrrreee..."
i think Sir Ive must have been asleep on this one. or he's thinking about retirement so they let the new guy take a swing at design.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 07:41 AM   #28
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"in before such and such comments" is the new "first" comment.
it's not clever. just useless and annoying.
And pointing it out doesn't just feed into it
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 07:48 AM   #29
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It won't take a long time. The majority of the popular apps will be ready for when the iPhone 6 is available. Hopefully we'll see a big number of apps that need to be updated!

The apps that aren't updated at all shows us that the developers of the app no longer care.

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No, there is not. Recent rumours only show that the 5.5-inch will have the protruding camera, that is, if the phone exists.
Most recent leaks have shown a 4.7" rear shell with a protruding camera. And it looks beautiful.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 07:50 AM   #30
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I'm ready. But I'm really interested how will Apple handle this next resolution transition. How good/bad unoptimised apps will work/look (as we all know, it will take a long time for many apps to catch up, some will never be updated).
I think the transition to this bigger resolution will be much more unnoticeable for the end-user than when Apple doubled the resolution.

The resolution won't be doubled, just increased. So retina-optimized (@2x) apps will look very good on the larger resolution. It won't be like jagged edges that we saw when the iPhone 4 was introduced. Of course it will look better when apps are optimized for the bigger resolution (Apple will likely introduce a @3x method), but unoptimized (iPhone 4+) apps will probably look like they do on the iPad Air, which has lower DPI than the iPhone.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 07:50 AM   #31
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And pointing it out doesn't just feed into it
quite right! but i imagine those type of people won't realize how silly their comments are on their own. someone must post it out for them.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 07:53 AM   #32
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Most recent leaks have shown a 4.7" rear shell with a protruding camera. And it looks beautiful.
I'm sure it was only the 5.5-inch.

And are you serious about it being beautiful?

I think, if it's true, I'll have to wait and see it first hand to decide that.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 07:54 AM   #33
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As much a I am looking forward to buying an iPhone 6 myself….. I secretly hope…. hope hope hope hope hope…. that this "Final Quality Control Stage" is a very long drawn-out and thorough time period. I hope they comb through every little detail, make sure that any little defects are weeded out before production starts.

Kinda like a Blizzard game beta… takes forever. I can wait. Hehe.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:01 AM   #34
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Just wondering - is the iPhone 6 the first cell phone with a protruding camera? If no - have the experiences with other phones been THAT bad that it seems to be such a major issue?
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:03 AM   #35
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Not a chance to double..the easiest way is 960p
From one of the leading mobile phone makers, to have a flagship 'The best phone you can make' that would be sad to be out of date screen wise from day 1.

And before anyone says "spec don't matter" Let's not forget all the SHOUTING ABOUT SPECS when Apple introduced the higher res screen years ago they called Retina, which is embarrassingly so far behind other leading brands now.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:09 AM   #36
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"in before such and such comments" is the new "first" comment.
it's not clever. just useless and annoying.
I think it points out how the same useless and annoying comments keep popping up. You can only say the same thing so many times - we all get it.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:10 AM   #37
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It won't take a long time. The majority of the popular apps will be ready for when the iPhone 6 is available. Hopefully we'll see a big number of apps that need to be updated!

The apps that aren't updated at all shows us that the developers of the app no longer care.

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No, there is not. Recent rumours only show that the 5.5-inch will have the protruding camera, that is, if the phone exists.
How do you say that 'recent' rumors only show that the 5.5" will have it? There are 0 recent rumors to suggest that. The only viable rumor period, to suggest that the 4.7" won't, but the 5.5" will, is the rumor of this purported leaked schematics:
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:12 AM   #38
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Just wondering - is the iPhone 6 the first cell phone with a protruding camera? If no - have the experiences with other phones been THAT bad that it seems to be such a major issue?
The Samsung Galaxy S4 and S5 (unsure about the rest of that line) and the Nexus 5 have protruding cameras. I personally have the GS4 and it has never been an issue. People just like to complain.

Edit: I believe some Nokia Lumias have protruding cameras as well, such as the 925, 1020 and 1520.

I will admit that the 1020's camera, while nice, is a little overboard - in fact, it looks like a tumour.

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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:15 AM   #39
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How do you say that 'recent' rumors only show that the 5.5" will have it? There are 0 recent rumors to suggest that. The only viable rumor period, to suggest that the 4.7" won't, but the 5.5" will, is the rumor of this purported leaked schematics:

Have you realized that the drawing says 5,7''?
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:23 AM   #40
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Final quality assurance? Seems a bit late doesn't it. They sold about 10 million of the things last year in the first weekend. There's about 40 days until a probable launch, need to have say 20 million on hand, that's 500,000 a day or about 20,000 an hour every hour from now until then, 6 every second.

All to be assembled, tested, boxed, have iOS put on them at the end.

There was a rumor of 100,000 people hired to build them, say that's 4 shifts, 25,000 working each shift. So one phone gets 25,000 / 6 people seconds of build time or about an hour.

Seems a little short to me.
They hired a bunch of robots too possibly.

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Most recent leaks have shown a 4.7" rear shell with a protruding camera. And it looks beautiful.
Haha no leak has shown a 4.7" rear shell with a protruding camera. Those were entirely separate parts. They merely sat the camera lens part where it would be on the camera hole of the phone, there is 0 evidence to say that will actually be like that on a 4.7" device.

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I think the transition to this bigger resolution will be much more unnoticeable for the end-user than when Apple doubled the resolution.

The resolution won't be doubled, just increased. So retina-optimized (@2x) apps will look very good on the larger resolution. It won't be like jagged edges that we saw when the iPhone 4 was introduced. Of course it will look better when apps are optimized for the bigger resolution (Apple will likely introduce a @3x method), but unoptimized (iPhone 4+) apps will probably look like they do on the iPad Air, which has lower DPI than the iPhone.
Let's say the transition to @3x means everything remains relatively sharp, do you think Apple will go to @4x with the iPhone 7? Would that transition be identical to this one in sharpness differences?
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:24 AM   #41
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Inb4 5.5'', weird antenna design & large camera lens comments.
I laughed way too much at this comment.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:26 AM   #42
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It's going to need far more than just a bigger screen and an incremental update to the camera to make me want to upgrade from my 5s.
I think NFC and an easy tap to pay system using touchID will be the major selling point (other than a larger screen)
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:28 AM   #43
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Have you realized that the drawing says 5,7''?
I don't think that's an actual number attributed to it, but instead the people that attained the leak attached that assuming it was 5.7"? This leak was from long ago by the way.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:28 AM   #44
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It's going to need far more than just a bigger screen and an incremental update to the camera to make me want to upgrade from my 5s.
If battery life was a problem they should just go over the top and make it physically much bigger. A battery with twice the MaH would solve any issues. Agree? Tell apple what you think about battery life by answering this poll question: http://surveymonkey.com/s/5l2mr7q
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:34 AM   #45
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The Samsung Galaxy S4 and S5 (unsure about the rest of that line) and the Nexus 5 have protruding cameras. I personally have the GS4 and it has never been an issue. People just like to complain.

Edit: I believe some Nokia Lumias have protruding cameras as well, such as the 925, 1020 and 1520.

I will admit that the 1020's camera, while nice, is a little overboard - in fact, it looks like a tumour.

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Indeed, but the nice thing about with Android phones or Windows Mobile phones is that you do, and sit down for this bit.....

Have A Choice!

Apple makes the one phone and you either buy it, or you don't.
There is no, well I'd like the better camera, or I'd rather a smaller one, or I'd rather a larger one.

Take the one they make or don't have one.

That's the biggest negative with Apple products.
I know they won't ever do it, but if iOS was licensed, then consumers would be able to pick what hardware they liked and still enjoy iOS.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:37 AM   #46
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Final quality assurance? Seems a bit late doesn't it. They sold about 10 million of the things last year in the first weekend. There's about 40 days until a probable launch, need to have say 20 million on hand, that's 500,000 a day or about 20,000 an hour every hour from now until then, 6 every second.

All to be assembled, tested, boxed, have iOS put on them at the end.

There was a rumor of 100,000 people hired to build them, say that's 4 shifts, 25,000 working each shift. So one phone gets 25,000 / 6 people seconds of build time or about an hour.

Seems a little short to me.
Yeah, you would've expected mass production to have begun last month for a September launch. We're already halfway into August and production still hasn't begun? If this is true, at the very least I expect a very tight supply at launch and maybe even an October release. I wonder if there was a last minute hardware issue that brought on this supposed delay in production.
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Final quality assurance? Seems a bit late doesn't it. They sold about 10 million of the things last year in the first weekend. There's about 40 days until a probable launch, need to have say 20 million on hand, that's 500,000 a day or about 20,000 an hour every hour from now until then, 6 every second.

All to be assembled, tested, boxed, have iOS put on them at the end.

There was a rumor of 100,000 people hired to build them, say that's 4 shifts, 25,000 working each shift. So one phone gets 25,000 / 6 people seconds of build time or about an hour.

Seems a little short to me.
Full ACK. My guess is they already started mass production around June.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:39 AM   #48
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The Samsung Galaxy S4 and S5 (unsure about the rest of that line) and the Nexus 5 have protruding cameras. I personally have the GS4 and it has never been an issue. People just like to complain.

Edit: I believe some Nokia Lumias have protruding cameras as well, such as the 925, 1020 and 1520.

I will admit that the 1020's camera, while nice, is a little overboard - in fact, it looks like a tumour.

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Ok thanks. Wow, so according to some here these models obviously are a complete design train wreck with an entirely ruined user experience as since they cannot be used on a flat surface (unless of course you buy "anti-wobble cases", which make the phones thicker again ), uncontrolled rocking, totally unusable for "level" apps... it's like a really nicely finished piece of furniture that looks great but rocks all over the place because of some uneven design. Boo-Hoo.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:40 AM   #49
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Indeed, but the nice thing about with Android phones or Windows Mobile phones is that you do, and sit down for this bit.....

Have A Choice!

Apple makes the one phone and you either buy it, or you don't.
There is no, well I'd like the better camera, or I'd rather a smaller one, or I'd rather a larger one.

Take the one they make or don't have one.

That's the biggest negative with Apple products.
I know they won't ever do it, but if iOS was licensed, then consumers would be able to pick what hardware they liked and still enjoy iOS.
iOS works so well BECAUSE it's attached in function and design to Apple hardware. Apple doesn't allow much choice because they know they have some of the smartest people on the planet making the choices for the average person. Allow the average person to make changes and you have what you see when someone jailbreaks their device and absolutely slaughters the look of it with any one of the ten trillion abysmal themes. Allow the average person to make changes that affect battery life (which Apple does allow), and you have everyone crying that their battery dies too quickly, when in reality it's because they have no idea how to set it up properly, and limit the things that drain battery no matter what hardware you're using.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:43 AM   #50
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Final quality assurance? Seems a bit late doesn't it. They sold about 10 million of the things last year in the first weekend. There's about 40 days until a probable launch, need to have say 20 million on hand, that's 500,000 a day or about 20,000 an hour every hour from now until then, 6 every second.

All to be assembled, tested, boxed, have iOS put on them at the end.

There was a rumor of 100,000 people hired to build them, say that's 4 shifts, 25,000 working each shift. So one phone gets 25,000 / 6 people seconds of build time or about an hour.

Seems a little short to me.
No offense, but this isn't Apple's first rodeo. They have a process that they follow. They probably don't solidify the release date until it passes this quality control check; maybe they don't even officially send out the invites for the event until it passes.
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