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Old Aug 13, 2014, 10:51 PM   #26
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I can't understand why Apple spend money on this? None of android makers do this but they sell well.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 10:56 PM   #27
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Oh great. Now my new phone will have fingerprints and grime from the manufacturer!
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 11:01 PM   #28
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Go Apple.!!

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That's great news, good job Apple!
This is one of the main reasons my next phone will be an iphone 6 and not a Galaxy s5.

Thanks apple for raising the bar.!!

I don't mind if your products are expensive I care that you give to my money a good use.!!

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I can't understand why Apple spend money on this? None of android makers do this but they sell well.
But for your consideration this the renewable and a few leaks I have read are the main reason why I and few of my coworkers will buy an iphone 6. I don't think we are a lot but we have share our mind with a few others.

I like to read and help companies who do this kind of things.!!

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Cheers.!!
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 11:11 PM   #29
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 11:18 PM   #30
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But for your consideration this the renewable and a few leaks I have read are the main reason why I and few of my coworkers will buy an iphone 6. I don't think we are a lot but we have share our mind with a few others.

I like to read and help companies who do this kind of things.!!

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I think the poster you were replying to was being sarcastic.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 11:19 PM   #31
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Tim got reassigned to production line?
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 11:23 PM   #32
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Hexane can simultaneously affect multiple nerves throughout the entire body (polyneuropathy). Nerve biopsies in affected individuals show swelling of the nerve and thinning of the myelin sheath. I welcome Apple's deliberate steps to reduce industrial exposure and I hope more companies (in all industries) follow suit…

…especially I'd like to get it out of the processed food chain. For example hexane is frequently used in food oil extraction. Users are far more likely to get hexane exposure from their diet than from any Apple device.
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 12:04 AM   #33
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No wonder the 5.5 is delayed. It all makes sense now.
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 12:06 AM   #34
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Who cares? More hideous mockups please.
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 12:35 AM   #35
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That's good for the workers I guess
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 12:43 AM   #36
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You guys are funny

You have no freakin idea what those chemicals are but you love it.
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 12:47 AM   #37
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These two chemicals were replaced by puppies and kittens. They're cheaper and readily available, renewable resource.
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 12:49 AM   #38
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So what's the alternative chemical used for end process now?
Diciprine.
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 12:53 AM   #39
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So what's the alternative chemical used for end process now?
Probably toluene (methyl benzene). It's less toxic, but still not great.

I try to avoid benzene where possible, but sometimes it really is the best solvent for the job. If you're just degreasing components though, there are lots of less dangerous aromatic solvents you can use.

source: I am a chemist.
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 01:58 AM   #40
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Interested to see what will replace these? I mean they did something what process or other chemicals will replace them?

EDIT and it looks like its been answered a few times above haha.
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 02:53 AM   #41
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 03:13 AM   #42
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mayonnaise.
Will Dijon mustard suffice?

I heard that Dijon mustard…. the official legitimate kind, from French Burgundy, make good ablative epoxy-polymers.
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 03:21 AM   #43
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Id like to know what is the cancer rate per 1000 in China compared to the rate per 1000 Apple manufacturing employese.

What I want to say is that I have serious doubt that these two chemicals have coused any harm to manufacturing workers, considering the use it is given.

Notwhitstanding the above, I think that is responsability of the chinease government to control the use of potentially hazardous chemical in the manufacturing process carried out in China. Apple should use its lobys in China to provide a better regulation and standards for cleaner manufactoring, not only in its own factories, but in all of them.

However, the best solution is to push the use of robots in the assembely process which would solve all of the problems related to the employeses health all together....
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 03:22 AM   #44
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Samsung, your move. What chemical will you reduce or eliminate? What was that? None, like usual.

New headline: Samsung does not discourage use of benzene and n-hexane during final manufacture.
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 03:43 AM   #45
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Samsung, your move. What chemical will you reduce or eliminate? What was that? None, like usual.

New headline: Samsung does not discourage use of benzene and n-hexane during final manufacture.

Well, Samsung partly builds their cellphones in the same factories, so there is quite some chance that this move to less hazardous chemicals (if they have the same or less cost structure) will also benefit them. There is no point in using different chemicals within the same factory for different customers. That would overall increase cost to both Samsung and Apple.
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 05:21 AM   #46
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That's great news, great seeing improvements.
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 05:40 AM   #47
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Samsung, your move. What chemical will you reduce or eliminate? What was that? None, like usual.

New headline: Samsung does not discourage use of benzene and n-hexane during final manufacture.
But this is not news. Samsung has been notorious within its home country, of irresponsible and exploitative corporate practices that has jeopardized the health and safety of Samsung workers. Within South Korea, this is a decades-old protest. And the Korean protesters? Samsung pays goons to harass them, bribe people to hack or bring down their websites, silence their dissent, pay them to stop talking to the press, etc.

The main group is the SHARPS group, the primary group that has fought Samsung for years, but they are not the only one, just the most vocal and recognized online.

A Samsung Contractor Commits Suicide In Protest Over Get-Tough Labor Control

South Korea: Samsung workers fight for justice after suicide

SOUTH KOREA: STRIKING SAMSUNG WORKERS PREVAIL DESPITE CLIMATE OF REPRESSION

After 70 Years of Repression, Samsung Must Allow its Workers to Unionise

South Korean Police Snatch the Body of A Samsung Contract Worker After His Suicide

Samsung Apologizes To Semiconductor Workers Who Contracted Cancer


See all those headaches and problems Samsung has above? That's why Apple is smart to try to clean up its workplace environment NOW, rather than face a string of workers lawsuits, mass protests, and of course finding out hundreds of employees are dying of mass cancers and asbestosis and chemical poisoning and other chemical toxicities years down the line. Apple is thinking ahead. While Samsung (long a manufacturing powerhouse) did not, and now it is haunting them.

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Old Aug 14, 2014, 06:03 AM   #48
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Less Hazardous Chemicals = Healthier Employees

It's about time, Apple.
Not really, the employees that build Apple's phones do not belong to them. This is more of a positive for Apple when its that time again to gloat how they have streamlined the production process along with taking out all those chemicals. Its a public image piece vs. actually looking out for some employee thousands of miles away.
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 06:12 AM   #49
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Not really, the employees that build Apple's phones do not belong to them. This is more of a positive for Apple when its that time again to gloat how they have streamlined the production process along with taking out all those chemicals. Its a public image piece vs. actually looking out for some employee thousands of miles away.
You forget, however, that by banning these products during manufacturing, it also means the finished products (e.g. iPhone 6 and later) will also be free of these chemicals.

Surely that is a positive thing, in the long term as far as potential health concerns, for Apple customers who purchase said devices.
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Old Aug 14, 2014, 06:27 AM   #50
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Good on Apple, but I'm sure that won't stop people from complaining about why they didn't do this years ago. Some might even complain that they didn't do this before Apple existed at all just to have an excuse to bash them about it.
Don't worry, the Apple apologists will be out defending apple before the complaints come in....... owww look your comment

Seriously, this is a really positive move. Are you trying to start a flame war ?
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