I for one would love a standalone Mac CPU that sits in between the Mini (which is basically built with laptop components, I believe?) and the Pro. I just want something capable of driving a 4K monitor and with a bit more horsepower than the Mini — but I can't afford to blow $3K on a Mac Pro.
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You are being blatantly rude and disrespectful and should be banned from these boards for that behavior, flat out.
If you buy bargain parts on eBay, and really shop, you can put together a power Hackintosh for a quarter of the $9599 you would spend for a Mac Pro. That can be done, yes...it can.
I mean -- a Powerful Xeon Multiprocessor Hackintosh WITH Thunderbolt and Flash Storage can be easily built for under $2500. Easily.
Everything you said is right except for the price. You can't build a PC equivalent to a Mac Pro for less. You can make one with an i7, non-ECC RAM (actually that's for stability, not power), and NVIDIA gaming GPUs that's pretty darn powerful and a lot cheaper, but the Mac Pro's non-consumer parts make it very expensive. Actually, its power-to-price ratio is pretty low.
One FirePro W9000, the closest equivalent of what the high-end Mac Pro has TWO of (D700), costs $3,339. That alone is more than a quarter of the price of the Mac Pro.
Fair enough. I just thought that a $2000+ "Gaming Edition" Mac Pro would somehow be targeted towards gamers. I guess the naming veered me off.
The i7 does not provide the necessary bandwidth for both GPUs and all the thunderbolt ports like the Xeon (barely) can.
You couldn't possibly cover the engineering effort with the sales that would result. You are of the mind that there is a huge gaming market out there for Mac Based games. There isn't even if you have a personal interest in such. Worst, the vast majority of interest in Mac Gaming dried up with the advent of iPad.
Apple has boot camp why would they do more?
Again what is in it for Apple? They have their gaming solution in iOS. A platform by the way that has been so successful that they are now optimizing parts of the OS to perform even better as a gaming platform. On the Mac they have chosen instead to optimize for professional usage. Why would they screw up what is good about the Mac to make a few gamers happy.
By the way the what is good about the Mac is getting high quality GPU drivers without paying a fortune for the cards.
I have the same one, same spec. Dude....it's fast!! Even with these new chips, you have to wait for Apple to announce when they will use them, and then it will be "shipping sometime in the next two months" if you are lucky to get an order in. Enjoy the one you got now!
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Eventually there will be a 4k iMac.
I don't see why anything more powerful than an iMac is necessary then. A "gamer" (oh I hate that word) would be the one swapping out GPUs to get 120FPS instead of 100FPS on Crysis 3 or whatever.
Yes, but the problem with the Mac Pro is that "nobody" needs a D700, let alone two of them. It seems that Apple has forgotten that there are professionals in other fields than real time 4K video editing as well...
My guess is that the next Mac-mini rev. will fit in the current box that holds the AppleTV.
Because people do not want to be forced to buy a new display every time they want to buy a new computer?
I would too. I like having a desktop with desktop parts in it just for stability and ease of repair. FYI, what you're referring to is not a CPU.
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Yes, that's true. You can still get the lower-cost D300 option, but NVIDIA cards are way cheaper and just as usable for some. My Mac Pro had an ATI 2600, a total piece of junk that couldn't support Mountain Lion for some reason and sounded like a leaf blower, and even the low-end (by 2013 standards) GTX 650Ti Boost I put it gave it more power than I need.
It is not rude to call someone out for posting nonsense!
Post a bill of materials then. Mind you we are talking brand new equivalent parts here. Used parts and more so stolen parts don't count.
You do realize that it is extremely difficult to even come close to Apples SSD cards at equivalent performance points. Apples SSD cards in the Mac Pros are literally a bargain.
In any event do post a bill of materials supporting these drastically lower prices from reputable dealers.
That's not the point. Nobody really needs the equivalent parts, so a $2000 desktop would have more than enough of power for basically anyone.
Sure, a Mac Pro isn't "overpriced" if you need all that horsepower. In fact, it is somewhat of a bargain.
No...No you can't
1. Lots of things Hackintosh don't work well - certainly with xeon.
2. The main drive is NOT an SSD and comparatively very cheap.
3. The Graphics cards (D700) are comparable to a W9000 AMD which are ... wait for it $3,399 on amazon and you get TWO in a mac pro. ( The cheaper W300 cards are not worth it though )
The CPUs have their own Selling price and you can't get around that. The 12 cores are insanely expansive - $2500
Enough people have done real comparisons and you can build the HIGHEST Spec for just about the same price.
And you can build a PC that beats the lowest end model pretty easily.
But the sweet spot is the mac pro 6 core with 1 tb drive - 64gb ( perhaps with memory from Crucial - but that's not hugely different - but you can sell the original chips ) - Beating that takes some doing - I know I've tried speccing out a PC that can shift those pixels and nothing can for the same money
let alone the actual incredible throughput and performance + 3 4K monitors etc
You should still be using the offline/online process as an editor. Use the extra power to increase your speed rather than editing in 4k.
I do 4k delivery now on a 2008 17"MBP. I edit in SD and only relink back to camera files for the grade. It's still the most efficient way to work.
I believe that computer is too expensive.
I would have to buy the top of the line to see a significant improvement and that would be $10,000! the same as my BMW that I need to pay for 5 years at $260 per month with a credit escort of 780.
I have no job to pay for a new Mac Pro. The iMac i Have together with my 2008 Mac Pro is doing the job right now for video editing and motion graphics.
If the new Mac Pro was $5K top of the line I would get it and pay cash, but no.
Thanks God I can wait!
I would have to buy the top of the line to see a significant improvement and that would be $10,000! the same as my BMW that I need to pay for 5 years at $260 per month with a credit escort of 780.
I have no job to pay for a new Mac Pro. The iMac i Have together with my 2008 Mac Pro is doing the job right now for video editing and motion graphics.
If the new Mac Pro was $5K top of the line I would get it and pay cash, but no.
Thanks God I can wait!
Er - no...
3D animators
Compositing
OpenCL driven applications - Science, simulation etc
Even audio work can use the GPU.
It's up to the developers to use it more. Adobe are - it's now built into many apps - not unfortunately the 3d Renderer in After effects - but to be honest that is a bit rubbish anyway.
If you don't need it you just get the D300s
I really don't understand when people bang on about the prices of workstations.
My mate bought a Taxi the other day cost him £30,000 - it's his job.
Another bought a Van for £20K. A chef I know paid £9,000 for an oven.
I bought my mac pro and paid for it with 1 job in 2 weeks. The next one I am going to lease over 3 years for £50 a week.
It's a tool to do work - if you don't make money with it then you probably don't need it. If you game and must use a mac you'd be spending a lot on it even if you got a PC.
I have the same one, same spec. Dude....it's fast!! Even with these new chips, you have to wait for Apple to announce when they will use them, and then it will be "shipping sometime in the next two months" if you are lucky to get an order in. Enjoy the one you got now!
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Eventually there will be a 4k iMac.
Sure. But I mean a third *standalone* Mac CPU, not an all-in-one.
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Yeah, same here. I added an SSD to the HDD in my Mini and it was a pretty tight fit.
