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NFC-Based Mobile Payments Said to Be a 'Hallmark' Feature of iPhone 6
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I think that it's often the thought that when Apple implements a technology, albeit after others have already introduced it, that they do so more simply and eloquently.
I, for one, have never said it sucked.
Quite the contrary, I've been bitching for it on these forums for years.
Yes, because attaching files to an email in iOS is so simple and eloquent.I think that it's often the thought that when Apple implements a technology, albeit after others have already introduced it, that they do so more simply and eloquently.
I see what you did there ... i think the iWatch will also be able to make mobile payments
Indeed, and that would be a lot more useful so you don't have to get your phone out each time. Watch is convenient! Latté in right hand, iWatch on the left!
Interesting enough Apple's Phil Schiller said at an AllThingsD event that NFC wasn't a solution to any current problem consumers faced. This was during the iPhone 5. Not sure if they will change their veiw this year.
I think that it's often the thought that when Apple implements a technology, albeit after others have already introduced it, that they do so more simply and eloquently.
I just think it's funny when people say that technology that Android uses sucks until that same tech is inside of iPhones/iPads. I mean, why are they so against anything that anybody else has? A lot of people on this site hated the thought of NFC and larger phone sizes. Now, those same people are ok with NFC and larger phones.
Apple is notorious for saying customers don't need something until they do it.
Pretty much, as to making it easier (Not directed at you sir)??? What's easier then just swiping your card across a read? All you'll be doing is choosing between using your phone or your card.
Actually, that's most likely why NFC payments never take off, the banks set the limit you can pay via it to a low amount to reduce fraud, and then you still use a card or mobile device to pay, the majority of people just use a card an a pin because we most likely think what's the point is doing the same thing another way? Apple's NFC payment system will get the exact same reaction, people will be like I can use my iPhone to pay for things? Cool... and then never use it.
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Yeap, they think it helps them to spin those sales and Apples bottom line.
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NFC =no good..
Its actually laughable, since we use screens Samsung makes, who also make screens for Android's too and other companies which do for others we all hate too as Apple fans, yet we still have the old "punch up bashing" with videos...
So funny It's good to be on MR.
Its actually laughable, since we use screens Samsung makes, who also make screens for Android's too and other companies which do for others we all hate too as Apple fans, yet we still have the old "punch up bashing" with videos...
So funny
It's good to be on MR.No one said it sucked. They said its implementation and support sucked. There is a difference. It wasnt a deal breaker for anyone because it was barely usable at all.
To understand the above, you have to step back a week or more ago when John commented jokingly on his site that Apple's iWatch was going to be beat the Moto 360 to market. Every tech site took it that he was trying to communicate something based in sources and evidence and widely reported it as him leaking facts.
Today he posted the above. Masterful troll (probably) or sly reporting ("I Want To Believe!")?
In the end, Apple will include an NFC radio/antenna subsystem for the following reasons:
1. The Japanese and South Korean cellphone carriers want this feature so the iPhone 6 can be used on mobile payment systems such as Mobile Suica and RakutenEdy in Japan and Olleh Touch in South Korea.
2. There are rumors that Apple has a mobile payments deal with China UnionPay (China's #1 credit card issuer), and that will require NFC to access China UnionPay mobile payment terminals.
3. Because the iPhone 6 is a clean-sheet phone design, it can now incorporate an NFC radio/antenna subsystem easily.
4. While Apple would have preferred mobile payments through iBeacons, the long range of Bluetooth 4.0 (LE) signals--up to nearly 10 meters!--makes it too vulnerable to hacking. And nobody wants to build a mobile payment terminal that uses Bluetooth 4.0 connections.
1. The Japanese and South Korean cellphone carriers want this feature so the iPhone 6 can be used on mobile payment systems such as Mobile Suica and RakutenEdy in Japan and Olleh Touch in South Korea.
2. There are rumors that Apple has a mobile payments deal with China UnionPay (China's #1 credit card issuer), and that will require NFC to access China UnionPay mobile payment terminals.
3. Because the iPhone 6 is a clean-sheet phone design, it can now incorporate an NFC radio/antenna subsystem easily.
4. While Apple would have preferred mobile payments through iBeacons, the long range of Bluetooth 4.0 (LE) signals--up to nearly 10 meters!--makes it too vulnerable to hacking. And nobody wants to build a mobile payment terminal that uses Bluetooth 4.0 connections.
I think the other factor is the NFC chipset now has fallback low and no power modes. Already on Blackberry but hard to tell what works what doesn't powered and unpowered.
Apple also likes to piecemeal new features so Passbook was part one, and will be used for a secure back-channel for updating keys used by the NFC chip.
Part to is Secure Enclave (and TouchID) for generating device specific keys (instead of SIM per service).
NFC with emulation for EVM cards is the last piece. Part of that piece is the RFID/ EVM uses will work powered (without unlocking) or unpowered so if it's a passbook card it'll work. More active and more secure features that require user authorization or other interaction will have there own apps.
I sincerely hope that the new Iphone comes with a solid translation application. Could be useful to translate "from whatever language" you are speaking to proper English...
And even after heavy duty deciphering, your comment still does not make any sense. Written on an Android phone or Android tablet?
All the Apple haters would say "NFC has been in Android phones for years!", however watch mobile payments actually take off once Apple releases their payment platform.
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Your statement has absolutely no relevance to NFC what so ever.
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NFC =no good..
Its actually laughable, since we use screens Samsung makes, who also make screens for Android's too and other companies which do for others we all hate too as Apple fans, yet we still have the old "punch up bashing" with videos...
So funny
Your statement has absolutely no relevance to NFC what so ever.
If this is indeed true - then I truly hope NXP is the best NFC semiconductor manufacturer on the market. And then by extension Apple should buy them out completely.
The NFC part will likely be exactly the same. NFC = NFC. Same chip, same features.
The point is that adding an "NFC-chip" or providing a "mobile payment solution with nfc capability" is not the same thing. Any phone vendor can add a chip. Not many companies can drive a new global standard. Unless Apple is capable of driving the 'mobile payment' innovation that adds purpose to nfc, an nfc chip in my iphone remains without much praktical use.
The crap iPad Mini Retina actually, or the crap MacBook Pro, either way an Apple device so you can stop with the snarky Android comments. And I just deleted the bit that didn't make sense. Thanks grammar Policeman.
No it won't, in the UK credit and debit cards have had RFID chips built into them for at least a couple of years now, which means millions in circulation by now I would think, yet using wireless, or contact less as the banks call it, payments haven't taken off really.
Horse Hockey, it will only take off when all merchant card readers allow NFC payments it has nothing to do with a bunch of people buying one mobile phone over another.
As for linking this with the credit card associated with the iTunes account, that's stupid. Who is going to pay the 30% fee Apple will undoubtably put on the payment for using there system?
No one really thinks Apple are going to let any volume of server traffic happen for free do they?