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Kids are now bending iPhones in Apple Stores
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Kids??
WTF??
They're probably 16/17
They're teenagers
They probably have more strength and energy than you
Mmmmm. Where in my car would I find these crumbles? They must be really well hidden.
That, or the dog's eaten them.
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Are you INSANE!!!!!!!!! So if I take a test drive in a brand new car and I decide that I want to see how well the airbags work, I am within my right to crash the car to force them to deploy? Because that is what I am getting out of your dumb@$$ statement.
There is a big difference between testing the device (car) as it is intended to be used rather than destroying it just to appease your childish desires.
If you want to do that, buy the device (car) and do what you want with it. Then it is yours to do what you want, how you want.
Until then, the device (car) is the company's (dealership's) property.
Apparently you've never heard the old saying "you break it, you buy it". If the product is used in a way other than what is identified/acceptable by the manufacturer then you forfeit the ability to return/replace the product.
You have to apply over 70+ lbs of pressure to the the 6/6+ to bend these phones. I don't know what you all are doing or how you have these phone in your pockets to create over 70/90 lbs of pressure. Go to a gym and pick up a 30 pound weight. Would you want to put that 30 pounds on top of your phone, whether it be an iPhone, S4, S5, Note 3, Note 4, etc.... I am sure probably not. Now if that 30 lbs seems heavy, consider you still need to add, 40/60 more pounds of pressure to the phone to bend it. Just saying.
Apparently your parents must have sucked at raising you if this is an example of your morals.
you spot on in regards to damaging goods.
In relation to the 90 LBS quoted to bend the phone, as you said, you have been in the gym, picked up 90 LBS, do you think those kids could have applied 90 LBS of pressure? no, 90 LBS is a hell of a lot.
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Mmmmm. Where in my car would I find these crumbles? They must be really well hidden.
That, or the dog's eaten them.
spelling mistake.
Crumple.
Apple has not claimed that 90 lbs of force is required. What Apple has claimed is outlined here.
You're confusing that with the results of a test conducted by Consumer Reports. Consumer Reports is not Apple, and what they say doesn't absolve anyone from doing the same test at a store.
In any case, the kids didn't do the same test. They had no way of measuring what pounds of force they exerted on the iPhones they broke. They also didn't buy the phones, as Consumer Reports did for their test.
So if they kids were truly following CR's example - which they were not - they would've bought the phones, and at they point they'd be free to do anything they want with them. Because they didn't buy the phones, it's vandalism, a criminal act.
You can't do a destruction test in a shop without permission, I think you are over looking that quite significant detail. Would you test drive a car without the dealerships permission, no you wouldn't. It's totally irrelevant what Apple advise concerning how many pounds of pressure the phone can take because this was an example of criminal damage.
The lads twitter account has been deleted so I would imagine he's in quite serious trouble. If it was reasonable to do what he did then I doubt he would have deleted evidence of it. It is what it is.
Not unless they spent the next 15 years taking up rugby and trainning on a weekly basis.
Creating 90lbs of force with your hands is seriously hard. Watching kids and other do it in less than 10seconds, clearly shows is much less than 90lbs
I agree. Most machine tests support the phone at the edges and exert force across the center. People bending by hand are using the weak area by the volume button as the fulcrum -- must be much easier to bend there. I have no intention of trying on my own phone, but I will say the iPhone 4 and 5 are pretty much impossible to bend in that manner
Lifting 90 lbs of dead weight is not the same as applying that pressure on a fixed point. The latter isn't as hard to do. This has been illustrated for a long time by the stiletto vs elephant's foot problem. The difference is the concentration of the applied force.
Extending that principle further: More effort is likely required by a human's rear end to bend a phone than a human's hands. A butt is distributing the force along its entire surface area. A human bending a phone with their hands is concentrating that force in their fingertips along a point that he or she already knows can be broken, if you just push hard enough.
In any case, all of this still ignores the obvious: People don't use their phones by grabbing each end with both hands and bending until it breaks.
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Teach your ***** kids to respect other's property and treat it with respect. When it is theirs (i.e. they've bought it), then do what they want to it.
Seriously, at point are the kids or their damn parents going to take responsibility for thier actions. They chose to break the devices. They weren't coerced or force to do it. You do the crime, you pay fine, you do the time. Plain and simple.
I agree 100%. Me too i have been a fan of iphones since iphone 4 and i have bought a lot of them over the years. I'm a user of a 6+ and yet i'm not blinded by the facts that this phone has a flaw were it would take relatively no effort to bend it. Heck my own phone has a slight bent if you look it at an angle (and its not the camera thing on the back).
Knowing apple they will fix it and not make any fuss about it so it appears only a handful of iphones had the issues on the first batch sold.
I don't always commit crimes... but when I do I like to put the video evidence on the Internet for everyone to see.
Pressure and force are two different things. CR specifically said 90 lbs force, not 90 pounds per square inch pressure
Video not playing on my iPad "YouTube not available". Is it removed or do I thank Apple for this
Youtube pulled it because it glorifies criminal activity, i.e., vandalism.
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Aluminum is cheap? Uses purposely doing stupid, unnatural things is poor engineering?
Or the kids realized they were dumb for "featuring" their mugs to the internet.
This article speculates on the root cause of the poor engineering. Note, they mention it had NOTHING to do with aluminium but poor engineering.
http://bgr.com/2014/09/29/iphone-6-plus-bendgate-4/
There is no poor engineering. Just Apple's miscalculation that people would be so petty, jealous (of Apple's and iPhone's success) and stupid that they would need to over-engineer their stuff.
Having such a weakspot (volume buttons) without proper reinforcement is an engineering oversight. I bet we'll see more reinforcement there with the 6S, just like the 4S fixed antennagate
apple could have used more materials but that would mean a thicker iphone. The thing is those bending tests are as unrealistic as it gets in the real world. Yes it will bend when you put that giant brick in your ass pocket and sit down but who on earth would do that? It doesnt even fit in my pockets properly and you feel it when you walk, its not conformtable and its not designed for pockets, at least the IP6+. You will feel it immidiately when you start to sit down because it will stretch your pants totally. If you are so silly and still want to sit down on it then i cant help you anymore. Maybe a 300kg elephant like man with a giant ass will not feel it in his pants when he plans to sit down and he will probably bend it but thats another story. Nobody would try to bend a phone or any other device like seen in some videos. I can crush my LCD TV Panel as well when i push it in like hell. I dont know what all this is about. In my mind some android fanboys made a big deal out of it and all other fanboys jump the bandwagon. I never put my phones in pockets because of dust and lint particles going in.