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Indeed. I stand corrected. Must have been thinking of Mountain Lion.. Originally Posted by MagicBoy
That one also breaches the 4.3GB limit. Tiger was the last OS X release that would fit onto one single-layer DVD.

Cheetah & Puma - 1 CD
Jaguar - 2 CDs
Panther - 3 CDs
Tiger - 4 CDs
Leopard - Yosemite - 1 DL DVD.

It would be straightforward to edit the images down to a single layer DVD but you would have to be careful not to select the omitted packages (printer drivers mostly) or the installer would crash.
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That one also breaches the 4.3GB limit. Tiger was the last OS X release that would fit onto one single-layer DVD.

Cheetah & Puma - 1 CD
Jaguar - 2 CDs
Panther - 3 CDs
Tiger - 4 CDs
Leopard - Yosemite - 1 DL DVD.

It would be straightforward to edit the images down to a single layer DVD but you would have to be careful not to select the omitted packages (printer drivers mostly) or the installer would crash. Originally Posted by weckart
The limit is 4.7GB. The InstallESD fits - there's slack space in the DMG.
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Correctamundo - InstallESD is only part of the App Store installs.

I'd hazard a guess that a DMG created from optical media and the InstallESD would work in similar ways. Originally Posted by MagicBoy
Essentially, the whole DMG will need to be restored to the USB drive or partition on the hard drive.

The InstallESD reference from the link is with respect to Lion, not Leopard:

"The steps above can also be used to create a bootable Mac OS X Lion USB by using the InstallESD.dmg image you can find inside the Lion installer"

The link is not referencing InstallESD for building a Leopard USB drive. Originally Posted by reco2011
Duh! The link speaks mainly of the Lion installer and the included InstallESD. I was making it clear that OP will not find an InstallESD in his disk image of Leopard.
The limit is 4.7GB. The InstallESD fits - there's slack space in the DMG. Originally Posted by MagicBoy
It seems you are right. The ML image can be squashed into a single DVD. Somehow Mavericks acquired an extra GB or so of data. Oh, well.

If you have ever burnt a disk you would know the limit is 4.38GB. You can only reach the full 4.7GB if you press the disk. Burning has overheads.
Well... As i was told a by a source that will be remaining unnamed for privacy, using a flash drive with SuperDuper on the PowerMac will not work. This goes back to my original problem of the fact that the PowerMac will not boot off of a flash drive unless you use OpenFirmware mode. Ik someone put a link with "instructions", but they were poorly written and hard to follow. If anyone knows a helpful website, or instruction on how to do it, please post it on here.

As for using a DVD, I have found a 5 pack of 8.x GB magnavox DL DVDs from Office Deport for $19. It's not the best price in the world. If anyone knows where I can get Double Layer 8.X GB DVDs for a cheaper price, please let me know. I would prefer if it was at Best Buy, Stapes, Office Deport, Walmart, Target, or BJ's. Those are the closest and easiest for me to get to and shop at.

I really appreciate all the help I've received on this thread (7th most replied to thread on the PowerPC Macs forum ).

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It appears that I've been ranked up to a MacRumors Regular!
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Well... As i was told a by a source that will be remaining unnamed for privacy, using a flash drive with SuperDuper on the PowerMac will not work. This goes back to my original problem of the fact that the PowerMac will not boot off of a flash drive unless you use OpenFirmware mode. Ik someone put a link with "instructions", but they were poorly written and hard to follow. If anyone knows a helpful website, or instruction on how to do it, please post it on here.

As for using a DVD, I have found a 5 pack of 8.x GB magnavox DL DVDs from Office Deport for $19. It's not the best price in the world. If anyone knows where I can get Double Layer 8.X GB DVDs for a cheaper price, please let me know. I would prefer if it was at Best Buy, Stapes, Office Deport, Walmart, Target, or BJ's. Those are the closest and easiest for me to get to and shop at.

I really appreciate all the help I've received on this thread (7th most replied to thread on the PowerPC Macs forum ).

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It appears that I've been ranked up to a MacRumors Regular! Originally Posted by Gamer9430
If you have spare single layer DVDs it may be possible to remove some unnecessary components of the Leopard installer like the Developer Tools and printer drivers. There are quite a few guides on the Internet on how to do this.
If you have spare single layer DVDs it may be possible to remove some unnecessary components of the Leopard installer like the Developer Tools and printer drivers. There are quite a few guides on the Internet on how to do this. Originally Posted by Altemose
yeah... that could work... I'll look into it.
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yeah... that could work... I'll look into it. Originally Posted by Gamer9430
Do note that the installer will take longer to load and will crash if you select any of the removed packages. Is your Leopard image for regular 10.5 or a updated copy like 10.5.2, 10.5.4, or 10.5.6?
Well... I Got a 25 pack of Double layer 8.6 gb DVDs!!! I'm in the process of burning it now!
Nothing can go my way... After I burned it using finder, it told me I could not use the install app from the DVD because it isn't the actual install disk... Any ideas on how to fix?
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Nothing can go my way... After I burned it using finder, it told me I could not use the install app from the DVD because it isn't the actual install disk... Any ideas on how to fix? Originally Posted by Gamer9430
Does it boot to the installer? It is possible that your Technology Coordinator gave you a rip of a disk that is model specific.
well...

IM RUNNING LEOPARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The disk didnt burn properly with Finder, so i used Disk Utility and it worked perfectly. I've installed it onto the 2.7 TB HDD flawlessly and even installed all the updates (iTunes 6.x.x, Mac OS X 10.5.8 Combo Update).

Now, here are 2 issues i ran into after the updates. iTunes will not open because I need QuickTime 7.x.x and shouldn't there be security updates? Ik there isn't anymore, but wouldn't there have been over the course of Leopard's life span. The install was a retail full install disk for 10.5.0, so it didn't have any updates on it.

I'm not sure how to get QuickTime 7 for it, so if someone could tell me, that would be great. As for the security updates thing, I might just be wrong about it but i thought there would be.
QuickTime 7 is still available directly from Apple.
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I'm not sure how to get QuickTime 7 for it, so if someone could tell me, that would be great. As for the security updates thing, I might just be wrong about it but i thought there would be. Originally Posted by Gamer9430
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL761?vi...S&locale=en_US
well...

IM RUNNING LEOPARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The disk didnt burn properly with Finder, so i used Disk Utility and it worked perfectly. I've installed it onto the 2.7 TB HDD flawlessly and even installed all the updates (iTunes 6.x.x, Mac OS X 10.5.8 Combo Update).

Now, here are 2 issues i ran into after the updates. iTunes will not open because I need QuickTime 7.x.x and shouldn't there be security updates? Ik there isn't anymore, but wouldn't there have been over the course of Leopard's life span. The install was a retail full install disk for 10.5.0, so it didn't have any updates on it.

I'm not sure how to get QuickTime 7 for it, so if someone could tell me, that would be great. As for the security updates thing, I might just be wrong about it but i thought there would be. Originally Posted by Gamer9430
I believe the 10.5.8 update is the security patch for Leopard.
I believe the 10.5.8 update is the security patch for Leopard. Originally Posted by reco2011
oh? I thought i saw a 2011 security patch for Snow Leopard and Leopard on the Apple Page about security updates. I might be wrong though...

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http://support.apple.com/kb/DL761?vi...S&locale=en_US Originally Posted by MagicBoy
thank you for this!

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QuickTime 7 is still available directly from Apple. Originally Posted by catzilla
yeah i saw that, i thought we were on QuickTime 10 and QuickTime 7 was obsolete, but apparently we're still on version 7 for the last 10 years, lol.

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I found it...
http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT4581
This is security update 2011-001 or OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.7... It was made for 10.5.8 as well.
Well upon checking software update again, I wound up having all the updates I thought I thought didn't show up.
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Well upon checking software update again, I wound up having all the updates I thought I thought didn't show up. Originally Posted by Gamer9430
You will have to re-run Software Update numerous times in order to install all the updates. Some updates have pre-requisites and cannot be installed until other updates are installed.
You will have to re-run Software Update numerous times in order to install all the updates. Some updates have pre-requisites and cannot be installed until other updates are installed. Originally Posted by Altemose
What was the breaking point that Apple said they're now using? I thought it changed recently to bork software update on multiple Mac OS-es.
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What was the breaking point that Apple said they're now using? I thought it changed recently to bork software update on multiple Mac OS-es. Originally Posted by MysticCow
What do you mean? Are you referencing the discontinuation of support for older versions of OS X from Software Update? If that is what you are referencing, recently Apple discontinued support for 10.0-10.3.9 to connect to Software Update through the program. OS X 10.4-10.10 are still supported by Software Update. Any user who needs the updates for the the deprecated operating systems can get all of the downloads at Apple's support site.
What do you mean? Are you referencing the discontinuation of support for older versions of OS X from Software Update? If that is what you are referencing, recently Apple discontinued support for 10.0-10.3.9 to connect to Software Update through the program. OS X 10.4-10.10 are still supported by Software Update. Any user who needs the updates for the the deprecated operating systems can get all of the downloads at Apple's support site. Originally Posted by Altemose
FWIW, I have a flash drive with copies of all of the updates for 10.4 and 10.5(as well as 10.2 and 10.3).

I do this for a couple of reasons-one of which is that it's often faster than downloading them, partially because I don't always have an internet connection on a particular computer, and also as protection against the inevitable day when we can no longer use Software Update to get the updates.

BTW, if you've ever run software update on 10.4, it can actually get a bit annoying as Java has to be updated in about 5 separate stages.
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FWIW, I have a flash drive with copies of all of the updates for 10.4 and 10.5(as well as 10.2 and 10.3).

I do this for a couple of reasons-one of which is that it's often faster than downloading them, partially because I don't always have an internet connection on a particular computer, and also as protection against the inevitable day when we can no longer use Software Update to get the updates.

BTW, if you've ever run software update on 10.4, it can actually get a bit annoying as Java has to be updated in about 5 separate stages. Originally Posted by bunnspecial
I agree. It can be quite annoying especially when you do not have support for WPA2 networks until you apply an update.
I forgot to post this yesterday, but everything is now completely up to date, and it runs extremely smoothly on the new OS as well as on the new HDD. Now I need to figure out what I can use it for, lol... any recommendations? I already have a file server (and besides, the PM has no WiFi card yet), so that idea is out...
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I forgot to post this yesterday, but everything is now completely up to date, and it runs extremely smoothly on the new OS as well as on the new HDD. Now I need to figure out what I can use it for, lol... any recommendations? I already have a file server (and besides, the PM has no WiFi card yet), so that idea is out... Originally Posted by Gamer9430
If you use software from Gavin's PowerPC Archive then you will have a very good all around computer!
If you use software from Gavin's PowerPC Archive then you will have a very good all around computer! Originally Posted by Altemose
ok ill take a look!

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is this it?

http://ppcarchive.dyniform.net/

This is what i found when i searched it.