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Grudderdude

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Exactly! I am in the same boat. I like Mac quality but just want to be able to goof around on the odd game. The 750m won't cut it for newer games and Im totally suprised apple hasn't opened up the option to upgrade the gpu when purchasing a rMBP. I'd actually be disappointed if all they did was upgrade to the 800 series GPU's next refresh. They are going to be old by the time the refresh happens.
 

OMGwtfBBQwings

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hypothetical situation: come February or the next release: what is the likelihood of Apple releasing the 13" rMBP with a new broadwell chip but also releasing the 15" with a has well (higher clock) because the broadwell 15" ones arent ready?

has this happened before? does Apple like to release similar gen CPUs at the same time?

asking because I'm only interested in the 13"

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also when is IGZO supposedly finally coming out? it was supposed to come out back in late 2013 but still nothing?
 

augustya

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[/COLOR]also when is IGZO supposedly finally coming out? it was supposed to come out back in late 2013 but still nothing?

IGZO is a Illusion...It is a Myth...A Legened that is going on since ages...It Never existed..It Never will ! Get Pre-Occupied with something else in your Life !
 

827538

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Broadwell is a die shrink = lower TDP. That's it, I'm expecting Haswell levels of performance. Anyone who's expecting more needs to understand Tick-Tock.

Exactly! I am in the same boat. I like Mac quality but just want to be able to goof around on the odd game. The 750m won't cut it for newer games and Im totally suprised apple hasn't opened up the option to upgrade the gpu when purchasing a rMBP. I'd actually be disappointed if all they did was upgrade to the 800 series GPU's next refresh. They are going to be old by the time the refresh happens.

750M is a solid GPU, I'm happily playing BF4, Metro Last Light, World of Tanks, Civilisation Beyond Earth etc on it. I'd love the option for a BTO GPU upgrade, but I highly doubt that will happen, the thermal envelop of a laptop 1.8cm thin is limited so there's not chance of seeing anything higher than a 860M.

Also the 800 series is a major leap, it's based on Maxwell which is an architecture very focused on performance per watt which it excells at. From the benchmarks I've seen you are looking at a 50% boost within a every so slightly lower TDP which is remarkable. I'll happily upgrade if they update the rMBP with an 850M with 2GB GDDR5. If they release one with the option for an 860M I will rip Apple's arm off.
But the 750M is sufficient.

hypothetical situation: come February or the next release: what is the likelihood of Apple releasing the 13" rMBP with a new broadwell chip but also releasing the 15" with a has well (higher clock) because the broadwell 15" ones arent ready?

has this happened before? does Apple like to release similar gen CPUs at the same time?

asking because I'm only interested in the 13"

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also when is IGZO supposedly finally coming out? it was supposed to come out back in late 2013 but still nothing?

IGZO just relates to the transistors used in the LCD filter, all it means is lower power consumption for the display which isn't even that high seeing as it uses LED's already but it's something I'd welcome for sure. I'd like the slight max brightness boost that I'm sure it would bring though.

What do you mean? The 13" will get similar Broadwell chips to the 15", just more of the dual core variety than the quad core variety. It's likely that these chips will release at the same time.

My guess is we will see a summer release for the Broadwell/Maxwell rMBP upgrades and I can't wait!

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Those are ultra low voltage chips, expect them to be crap. What we can expect is Haswell chips with a lower power consumption. Nothing amazing but still nice.
 

Keniutek

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I would love for Intel to stop ********** around, they need some serious competition to finally get their ish together. By the time Broadwell rolls out... we should have Skylake ready to go. They will delay the latter and further piss me off.
 

Vanilla35

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I would love for Intel to stop ********** around, they need some serious competition to finally get their ish together. By the time Broadwell rolls out... we should have Skylake ready to go. They will delay the latter and further piss me off.

Lol tell us how you really feel :rolleyes:
 

augustya

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My guess is we will see a summer release for the Broadwell/Maxwell rMBP upgrades and I can't wait!

American Summer ? or English Summer ? or European Summer ? Just like America has some 20 Time Zones they also have some 50 Seasons :) so please use Names of Month instead. It will help the Globe not just specific country !
 

DiegoFrancisco

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Broadwell is a die shrink = lower TDP. That's it, I'm expecting Haswell levels of performance. Anyone who's expecting more needs to understand Tick-Tock.

My guess is we will see a summer release for the Broadwell/Maxwell rMBP upgrades and I can't wait!

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Those are ultra low voltage chips, expect them to be crap. What we can expect is Haswell chips with a lower power consumption. Nothing amazing but still nice.

If there's a big jump in efficiency, then what are the odds of that leading to a design refresh? Doesn't Apple tend to go with slimmer designs over huge increases in battery life?
 

ValSalva

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I would love for Intel to stop ********** around, they need some serious competition to finally get their ish together. By the time Broadwell rolls out... we should have Skylake ready to go. They will delay the latter and further piss me off.

From what I've read Skylake will not be delayed. There may be weird short six month or less gap between Broadwell and Skylake introductions.

No way am I buying a Broadwell machine, not with all the significant advances and features of Skylake.
 

Mackan

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Will the elusive quad-core in the 13'' MBP make an appearance with Broadwell? I bet not.
 

rekhyt

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Part of the old MR guard.
American Summer ? or English Summer ? or European Summer ? Just like America has some 20 Time Zones they also have some 50 Seasons :) so please use Names of Month instead. It will help the Globe not just specific country !

Erm... American, British and European summer is basically the same thing.

Perhaps you were thinking about the distinction between the American summer and the Australian summer instead, where the time disparity is actually there?
 

augustya

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Erm... American, British and European summer is basically the same thing.

Perhaps you were thinking about the distinction between the American summer and the Australian summer instead, where the time disparity is actually there?

Also I could have added South African Summer to the List ! When it is Summer in all those continents, it is Winter in South Africa :rolleyes:
 

827538

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American Summer ? or English Summer ? or European Summer ? Just like America has some 20 Time Zones they also have some 50 Seasons :) so please use Names of Month instead. It will help the Globe not just specific country !

Summer is a season from June to August, it's the same in Europe, the UK and the US.
 

mcarling

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Don't know if I should wait or just buy now. My early 2011 15" is going to die anytime now. I've already had the logic board replaced once and now the battery is dying. I have the money for an rMPB 15" but wanted to wait until spring for the new models but I'm unsure if they'll even have them out then. Should I just buy now?
Yes, you should just buy now. Now is an excellent time to buy a MacBook Pro.

Broadwell is a die shrink = lower TDP. That's it, I'm expecting Haswell levels of performance. Anyone who's expecting more needs to understand Tick-Tock.
I formerly worked for Intel as a programmer responsible for the circuit simulation software the CPU designers used to verify their designs. I expect the Broadwell CPUs that Apple will use in the 2015 MacBook Pro models to outperform the Haswell CPUs in the current MacBook Pro models. One of us doesn't understand Tick-Tock.
 

augustya

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I formerly worked for Intel as a programmer responsible for the circuit simulation software the CPU designers used to verify their designs. I expect the Broadwell CPUs that Apple will use in the 2015 MacBook Pro models to outperform the Haswell CPUs in the current MacBook Pro models. One of us doesn't understand Tick-Tock.

Oh Look ! Who do we have here :) we are privileged to have the notorious Intel Ex- Employee :) what more INTEL (Secret Information) Can you give us about how the Broadwell equipped rMBP would be ? Would it be a Fanless CPU or what ?
 

mcarling

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Oh Look ! Who do we have here :) we are privileged to have the notorious Intel Ex- Employee :) what more INTEL (Secret Information) Can you give us about how the Broadwell equipped rMBP would be ? Would it be a Fanless CPU or what ?

I have never posted any secret information, so please refrain from asking for "more" secret information.
 

0983275

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I wonder what are the chances of Apple using 850m? (or 950m, if it's released by then, should be similar in specs, like how 650m is similar to 750m, with DDR3 vs GDDR5 + extra VRAM being the difference, I think)

I like how GTX 750 Ti is performing in my PC, having the similar performance in a MacBook Pro would be nice.
 

mcarling

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I wonder what are the chances of Apple using 850m? (or 950m, if it's released by then, should be similar in specs, like how 650m is similar to 750m, with DDR3 vs GDDR5 + extra VRAM being the difference, I think)
It's probably about 50/50 that there will be any discrete GPU at all in any Broadwell MacBook Pro.

What's the chances the 15inch Pro gets updated with Broadwell soon?
My best guess is summer 2015. I doubt Broadwell CPUs suitable for the 15" MacBook Pro will be available in large quantities before June.
 

fongyuen

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http://mobile.extremetech.com/computing/222349-intel-roadmap-update-skylake-on-track-for-2015-will-debut-alongside-broadwell-k?origref=

New article about Intel's road map for 2015. Not planning on holding back/delaying skylake...thus far.

edit: was thinking about jumping on this deal:http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1072689-REG/apple_mgxc2ll_a_15_4_macbook_pro_notebook.html
But may just wait a but more now, no rush.
 
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