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Ibaorus

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Hi guys, I know iPhone 6 does not have OIS. I just wondering if it is possible for Apple to improve the video stabilization on the iPhone 6 using software update ?

I tried Xperia Z3 and surprisingly, it has better video stabilization compared to iPhone 6 although it also uses digital stabilization called SteadyShot.

Don't tell me to get the 6 Plus for OIS because I don't want to. I already tried 6 Plus, and that thing is huge.
 

JayLenochiniMac

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Don't fret. Both the 6 and the 6+ have Cinematic Video Stabilization, which is basically enhanced digital video stabilization compared to that found in the 5s.

From apple.com:

Cinematic video stabilization

Cinematic video stabilization helps to keep your shots steady. So even if you’re doing something like filming while hanging off the side of a street car, your video looks as smooth as if you were gliding through the scene on a rig.

A lot of people confuse it with OIS though, which is in the camera and has nothing to do with video.
 

jabingla2810

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The video stabilisation is the same on both iPhone 6 and 6+.

OIS is limited to still shots in low light on the 6+.
 
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rigormortis

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The video stabilisation is the same on both iPhone 6 and 6+.

OIS is limited to still shots in low light on the 6+.

ois also works great for video

I've seen tests where the ois 6 plus on video was superior to the 6

ois has a magnetic ring and this magnetic ring is what keeps the lens from
moving from what i have read

the magnetic protruding ring does not care if you are recording video, taking still pictures, or you are in low light. it is just a magnet. just sitting there being happy to be a magnet. it doesn't pay attention to politics

https://gigaom.com/2014/01/10/apple-patent-details-optical-image-stabilization-for-iphone-cameras/
 
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jabingla2810

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ois also works great for video

I've seen tests where the ois 6 plus on video was superior to the 6

ois has a magnetic ring and this magnetic ring is what keeps the lens from
moving from what i have read

the magnetic protruding ring does not care if you are recording video, taking still pictures, or you are in low light. it is just a magnet. just sitting there being happy to be a magnet. it doesn't not pay attention to politics

https://gigaom.com/2014/01/10/apple-patent-details-optical-image-stabilization-for-iphone-cameras/

The Patent you link to is just a Patent, an idea, that maybe one day may get implemented into a product, but not in the iPhone 6+.

OIS isn't turned on for video, it makes no difference.

OIS in the iPhone 6+ is limited to still shots in low light. Thats it.

https://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/compare/

The compare page at Apple only mentions OIS in the still camera section of the specs, while the video section is identical to the iPhone 6, both using what Apple calls "Cinematic video stabilisation."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXBU9K6sQ7U&list=UUB2527zGV3A0Km_quJiUaeQ

Check out this video (around the 23 minute mark), she talks through the whole thing. I'd reccomend her other videos too :)
 

rigormortis

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The Patent you link to is just a Patent, an idea, that maybe one day may get implemented into a product, but not in the iPhone 6+.

OIS isn't turned on for video, it makes no difference.

OIS in the iPhone 6+ is limited to still shots in low light. Thats it.

https://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/compare/

The compare page at Apple only mentions OIS in the still camera section of the specs, while the video section is identical to the iPhone 6, both using what Apple calls "Cinematic video stabilisation."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXBU9K6sQ7U&list=UUB2527zGV3A0Km_quJiUaeQ

Check out this video (around the 23 minute mark), she talks through the whole thing. I'd reccomend her other videos too :)

i haven't tried it with an iPhone 6. but my iPhone 6 plus can pick up paperclips

i saw a video of the close up of the lens and you can see how the magnetic field of the iPhone 6 plus is keeping that lens dead center. i can't find it. it might of been an lg video. ill keep looking for it

yes i know the iPhone 6+ has motors to move the lens. but i am also saying that i believe the magnetic field also keeps the camera lens floating.

the magnetic protruding ring was also described in another patent about snap on lenses.

i think one of us should sacrifice their iPhone 6+ by demagnetizing the ring


here is one video that shows how the magnets in the another companies phone repels objects

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJNmuTmqShE&spfreload=10

video 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opVbCzbtJH0

video 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFuDod5KKPE
theres a little video clip there where you can see an positive effect of ois while shooting video

just because someone says that the iPhone 6 + ois feature is used to help take pictures with low light situations doesn't mean its not operating while video is being recorded. i would argue that ois is always on and its something you cannot turn off.
 
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JayLenochiniMac

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ois also works great for video

I've seen tests where the ois 6 plus on video was superior to the 6

ois has a magnetic ring and this magnetic ring is what keeps the lens from
moving from what i have read

the magnetic protruding ring does not care if you are recording video, taking still pictures, or you are in low light. it is just a magnet. just sitting there being happy to be a magnet. it doesn't pay attention to politics

https://gigaom.com/2014/01/10/apple-patent-details-optical-image-stabilization-for-iphone-cameras/

Wrong. That's Cinematic Video Stabilization, not OIS. You're confusing the two like many people. The "tests" were comparing the 6+ to the 5s, like this one (notice they mis-termed it as "Digital Image Stabilization" (DIS) when it should be "Cinematic Video Stabilization"). Hence the confusion because people assume DIS is OIS.
 

Ibaorus

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Guys, none of you is answering my question actually.

But anyway, are you guys sure that OIS has nothing to do with video quality ?

Watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqdsP5Olfy4

You can find more videos that compare DIS and OIS on 6 and 6 Plus on YouTube.

The bottom line is, OIS also helps when you record video.
 

JayLenochiniMac

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Guys, none of you is answering my question actually.

But anyway, are you guys sure that OIS has nothing to do with video quality ?

Watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqdsP5Olfy4

You can find more videos that compare DIS and OIS on 6 and 6 Plus on YouTube.

The bottom line is, OIS also helps when you record video.

That's just another erroneous review where they mistook OIS for Cinematic Video Stabilization and what's up with the excessive sideway movements that makes me question their methodology used (did the iPhone 6 have a bit of a play strapped to the equipment?). They do not show any difference in actual shaking/vibrations. See http://blog.gsmarena.com/iphone-6-vs-5s-cinematic-vs-digital-stabilization/

This may be one of the best digital stabilizations we’ve seen on any smartphone to date, if not the best. Those that worry about the iPhone 6 video capture being worse without the optical image stabilization of the Apple iPhone 6 Plus shouldn’t fret as Apple is using the same digital video stabilization for video capture on both phones. The OIS on the iPhone Plus is there mainly for low light photography it seems. This way the iPhone phablet can capture images at a reduced shutter speed in order to capture more light from the scene.

The video stabilization of the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are on par and both much superior to that of the Apple iPhone 5s.
 

Ibaorus

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That's just another erroneous review where they mistook OIS for Cinematic Video Stabilization and what's up with the excessive sideway movements that makes me question their methodology used (did the iPhone 6 have a bit of a play strapped to the equipment?). They do not show any difference in actual shaking/vibrations. See http://blog.gsmarena.com/iphone-6-vs-5s-cinematic-vs-digital-stabilization/

You might be right, but there are videos that show the difference, though subtle.

Anyway, I found an app called FiLMic Pro which offers better video stabilization than the stock iOS camera, but the focusing is a little bit slow. So yeah, I think it is possible for Apple to improve their video stabilization through software update.
 
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