OS X 10.10 Yosemite: All The Little Things

clauzzz203 · Nov 30, 2014

People who have done a clean install (you must delete all partitions and backups) do not have unique problems, so if anyone has big problems with Yosemite, it is their fault for being comfy and choosing upgrade, especially from OS X versions from years ago. The upgrade process has many flaws even if done correctly. These statements apply both to OS X and iOS. Apple has never cared for upgrade scenarios, they care about the bleeding edge and so should you.

If you absolutely cannot clean install,
-repair permissions from Disk Utility
-thrash and empty trash for everything in Library/LaunchAgents, Library/LaunchDaemons and Library/StartupItems as these hog CPU, RAM and HDD/SSD at startup and during normal running
-disable all Extensions and plugins from Safari (use Safari, Chrome is slower and worse at typography) Preferences, Privacy except the ones you absolutelly cannot browse without, e.g. Flash (for some, although 99% of video websites work without flash - did you know that? try it; also Flash hogs CPU, RAM, fans and website loading like crazy)
-enter Terminal and type sudo periodic daily, then sudo periodic weekly then sudo periodic monthly
After these reboot and remember to do them once a week or at the very least once a month. Enjoy the blazing speed.

Tech198 · Nov 30, 2014

Now all my mail looks like it just came from the Post Office..

What are all these appropriations on top of messages... EM, MF etc... n the corner...

What do they stand for?

While I agree upgrades cause more problems, sometimes users can't do clean install, since (for one thing they never keep backups, which would take long to do), However, while u can clean install on OS X, you cannot do this on iOS, cos even if you "Erase all content & Settings", technically it will still be an upgrade since an version is already installed.

Anuba · Dec 1, 2014

Sky Blue said:
Utilities
- Activity Monitor changes:
There is now a Compressed Memory column you can add to Activity Monitor.
Instead of unclear "Safari Web Content" processes, Activity Monitor now shows the full webpage url of the Safari Web Content so it's easier to see which webpage is taking the most amount of memory.

About that... I have this thing where the fans start screaming and one particular website (dustinhome.se) is claiming 100+% CPU in two separate processes which I have to force quit. I don't even have to visit the site during the Safari session, it just happens anyway. Through some iCloud voodoo with visited sites being mirrored to all clients linked to my iCloud account, it spreads from one Mac to another. I have this Mac Mini server that's always running and I've never even visited the site on that machine, but I can come to my home office in the morning and find that the fans have been going full blast for lord knows how many hours, I open up Activity Monitor and there it is again, dustinhome.se. I thought I was going crazy but I googled the issue and sure enough there are lots of similar reports.

Dustin is a Premium Apple Reseller and one of Scandinavia's largest online shops for pro and consumer electronics; it's where I do all my shopping. This odd bug is probably causing a collective power draw of a few gigawatts across thousands of helpless Macs in Scandinavia. I've tried cleaning out all cache and cookie data pertaining to the site, but the ghost keeps coming back, presumably via iCloud (it's really hard to kill something that iCloud is frantically trying to put back on 5 devices at once). I guess I'll drop them a mail and hope they'll understand what the hell I'm on about.

Another iCloud issue I've encountered in Safari is that it can delete your bookmarks while you're busy rearranging them. Twice now I've had the sidebar open and rearranged bookmarks and bookmark folders there when Safari suddenly throws an alert and says something to the effect that I can't touch those right now because they're being synchronized, and anything I moved while Safari was in that state simply vanished. It killed a couple of carefully curated bookmark folders for me. I back them up manually ever since.

Artimus12 · Dec 1, 2014

Anuba said:
About that... I have this thing where the fans start screaming and one particular website (dustinhome.se) is claiming 100+% CPU in two separate processes which I have to force quit. I don't even have to visit the site during the Safari session, it just happens anyway. Through some iCloud voodoo with visited sites being mirrored to all clients linked to my iCloud account, it spreads from one Mac to another. I have this Mac Mini server that's always running and I've never even visited the site on that machine, but I can come to my home office in the morning and find that the fans have been going full blast for lord knows how many hours, I open up Activity Monitor and there it is again, dustinhome.se. I thought I was going crazy but I googled the issue and sure enough there are lots of similar reports.

Dustin is a Premium Apple Reseller and one of Scandinavia's largest online shops for pro and consumer electronics; it's where I do all my shopping. This odd bug is probably causing a collective power draw of a few gigawatts across thousands of helpless Macs in Scandinavia. I've tried cleaning out all cache and cookie data pertaining to the site, but the ghost keeps coming back, presumably via iCloud (it's really hard to kill something that iCloud is frantically trying to put back on 5 devices at once). I guess I'll drop them a mail and hope they'll understand what the hell I'm on about.

Another iCloud issue I've encountered in Safari is that it can delete your bookmarks while you're busy rearranging them. Twice now I've had the sidebar open and rearranged bookmarks and bookmark folders there when Safari suddenly throws an alert and says something to the effect that I can't touch those right now because they're being synchronized, and anything I moved while Safari was in that state simply vanished. It killed a couple of carefully curated bookmark folders for me. I back them up manually ever since.

Have you tried turning off Safari mirroring in iCloud on all your devices until you've completely eradicated it from your account?

kappaknight · Dec 1, 2014

I'm still having trouble with wifi running 10.10.2 and a Time Capsule. This is just infuriating.

oMc · Dec 2, 2014

kappaknight said:
I'm still having trouble with wifi running 10.10.2 and a Time Capsule. This is just infuriating.

Again, the purpose of this thread is not to complain or report about bugs.
If you are not happy with Yosemite, contact Apple and ask for a refund. Oh, wait...

Tech198 · Dec 3, 2014

I really like Yosemite now... although i do have the odd issues : (who would expect otherwise on a .1 release)

- Spotlight : There is a box in the center, but there is no way to drag it so its out of the way.. You must first close it... Although the wealth if more info is good.

- Notification Center : Now overlays the screen, not sliding in like before, thus it hides any icons behind it.... The overlay is good, but only in certain areas, otherwise it just doesn't look good.. It looks Apple didn't know how to slide it.

- AFP shares : One major thing i thing i may have use Mavericks...

I use screen sharing all the time, 99% of the time i use it to access Mac mini, however even after a clean install of Yosemite, every open of a Finder window and attempting to connect brings up the "Connection failed to <server>". This happens on both "Screen share" and "Connect as"

sometimes u get lucky, one option works, the other doesn't, but 9 times out of time it will work, but since i rely on this to work, I think i must fo-go 10.10.1

- Mail Signature problems : When composing a new message only one shows up, you cannot switch between any of your signatures, even though they appear in Mail Preferences, Signatures...

...And this on all from a "clean" install .....

I would have expected this from an upgrade by all means, but never a clean install. Few problems maybe, but when one of the mail or main issues you use all the time, it suddenly turns a minor issue into a major one, and u just can't use it.

Anuba · Dec 6, 2014

Artimus12 said:
Have you tried turning off Safari mirroring in iCloud on all your devices until you've completely eradicated it from your account?

Nope. What I did was: Remove the bookmark, kill it in Top Sites, kill it in Frequently Visited Sites (a feature I hate anyway so I always remove anything that sticks there until Safari stops trying) and erase cookies/cache. Every possible trace removed and yet it still kept showing up. For literally no conceivable reason the rMBP would start sounding like vacuum cleaner again and I'd find two instances of "www.dustinhome.se" in Activity Monitor. Then I remembered: History. So I viewed history and sure enough it was crammed with entries from September and on, even though I bought this computer in November. I didn't realize iCloud kept a global cache of that, too. And there it was, one visit to the site in November which is when I ordered the computer from them! How bizarre is it that a computer frequently runs amok as a result of echoes of its own online purchase?!

Anyway, I wiped History, which wiped it on all my Macs linked to that iCloud account, and now it finally stopped happening. Mirroring of History was the culprit.

Takohashi · Dec 7, 2014

KALLT · Dec 20, 2014

Not sure whether this has been reported before, but I think I found some small UI changes in the 10.10.2 public beta.

When using the dictionary function (right-click on a word > 'Look Up [word]'), the yellow highlight fades in smoothly rather than abrupt and doesn't change the typeface anymore while highlighted.
In Mail, when deleting or moving an e-mail, there is now an animation: the e-mail is quickly 'squished' upwards. In addition, the e-mail above the deleted one is selected afterwards. Mail is overall a bit smoother and more responsive than before.
The volume control UI with 'Reduce transparency' enabled has been fixed too (before it would have black corners).
When using the dark mode, the font showing the VPN connection time is now bright (it was a lot darker before).

n-evo · Dec 21, 2014

KALLT said:
The volume control UI with 'Reduce transparency' enabled has been fixed too (before it would have black corners).

One less thing for people to complain about. Of course chances are complaining will continue in the form of "it should have been fixed earlier".

Partron22 · Dec 21, 2014

n-evo said:
One less thing for people to complain about. Of course chances are complaining will continue in the form of "it should have been fixed earlier".

I still see them, so I can't yet move to that fallback complaint you suggest.

n-evo · Dec 21, 2014

Partron22 said:
I still see them, so I can't yet move to that fallback complaint you suggest.

That's a shame.

grahamperrin · Dec 22, 2014

Best ignored

n-evo said:
One less thing for people to complain about. Of course chances are complaining will continue in the form of "it should have been fixed earlier".

Even likelier: some people will simply complain about people who find fault.

Postscript

n-evo said:
History repeating itself and the complaints are almost exactly the same.

grahamperrin said:
If that's truly your interpretation, then I must say that you are reading with rose-tinted spectacles.

n-evo said:
People deal just as poorly with change in 2014 as they did in 2003.

grahamperrin said:
That's a huge oversimplification. The masses of complaints about Yosemite can not be dismissed in that way. you're a hair's breadth away from addition to the shortlist of people who I ignore in MacRumors. I use that list as rarely as possible, and I respect much of what you write, so please: let's try to keep things that way

I used it again.

ncrypt · Dec 22, 2014

New icons

New icons in the latest 10.10.2 beta for for marking messages read/unread in Mail

n-evo · Dec 22, 2014

grahamperrin said:
Even likelier: some people will simply complain about people who fuss about the littlest of details and feel the need to endlessly vent it to the outside world.

Fixed that for you.

ncrypt said:
New icons in the latest 10.10.2 beta for for marking messages read/unread in Mail

That's a good change. The current symbols aren't too clear about what action the buttons trigger.

tkermit · Dec 22, 2014

n-evo said:
That's a good change. The current symbols aren't too clear about what action the buttons trigger.

I think the iconography in Yosemite is generally a lot clearer than before wherever it changed. Mavericks and earlier versions sometimes relied on metaphors that you couldn't easily grasp at first sight and/or associate with whatever the icon represented, e.g. the old (admittedly cute) butler/assistant icon in Xcode and other places.

n-evo · Dec 23, 2014

tkermit said:
I think the iconography in Yosemite is generally a lot clearer than before wherever it changed. Mavericks and earlier versions sometimes relied on metaphors that you couldn't easily grasp at first sight and/or associate with whatever the icon represented, e.g. the old (admittedly cute) butler/assistant icon in Xcode and other places.

Agreed. Although in some cases it's pretty hard to come up with a clear symbol for a given task.

imasterus · Dec 27, 2014

Don't know whether it is Yosemite-specific feature (power nap was introduced in ML), but Dropbox files are updated when power nap is on while my MacBook sleeps. I like this feature.

grahamperrin · Dec 27, 2014

At first sight

tkermit said:
easily grasp at first sight and/or associate with whatever the icon represented

I see these three things:

a list
an overlap of two things, maybe intended to represent a merger
something network related (two-way communication); it's most recognisably AppleTalk, but I know that's not used in modern versions of the OS.

n-evo · Dec 29, 2014

grahamperrin said:
I see these three things:

Additionally, I also see partial window chrome, two seperators and toolbar button background.

KALLT · Jan 7, 2015

KALLT said:
Not sure whether this has been reported before, but I think I found some small UI changes in the 10.10.2 public beta.

When using the dictionary function (right-click on a word > 'Look Up [word]'), the yellow highlight fades in smoothly rather than abrupt and doesn't change the typeface anymore while highlighted.

In Mail, when deleting or moving an e-mail, there is now an animation: the e-mail is quickly 'squished' upwards. In addition, the e-mail above the deleted one is selected afterwards. Mail is overall a bit smoother and more responsive than before.

The volume control UI with 'Reduce transparency' enabled has been fixed too (before it would have black corners).

When using the dark mode, the font showing the VPN connection time is now bright (it was a lot darker before).

Latest beta:

The yellow highlight when using the in-text dictionary (right-click on a word > 'Look Up [word]') is gone in Safari (but not Preview or TextEdit).
The Mail animations I mentioned are gone again.
Icons are back in Finder 'Go' menu.

joedec · Jan 24, 2015

KALLT said:
Latest beta:

The yellow highlight when using the in-text dictionary (right-click on a word > 'Look Up [word]') is gone in Safari (but not Preview or TextEdit).

The Mail animations I mentioned are gone again.

Icons are back in Finder 'Go' menu.

I have 10.10.2 Beta 6 and the yellow highlight in Safari is there. Just an FYI.

KALLT · Jan 24, 2015

joedec said:
I have 10.10.2 Beta 6 and the yellow highlight in Safari is there. Just an FYI.

Jep, its indeed back again. Funny these little changes over three betas.

Simplicated · Jan 27, 2015

Menu items in the Help menu are now bigger in 10.10.2.

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