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Will the Nik Collection be compatible with Apple's new photography application, Photos?

At this time, our engineering team is looking into the possibility of enabling Nik Collection compatibility with Photos. Please check back with us once Photos has been released in 2015 for an update on our compatibility status.

My read? No way it will be ready at launch...but maybe down the road? It remains completely unclear how/if extensions/plugins will be handled by Photos...I remain cautiously optimistic
 
My cMBP is a mid 2012, purchased in June, and the update has not shown up for me either. So, not sure age has anything to do with it.

Not a developer, but I am part of the public beta.

So am I, but some people on the public beta (earlier in this thread) say it's shown up for them.

I'm fine with waiting, but it's kid with a new toy syndrome. I want to play!
 
three years ago I would have been super excited, but now I know that this app will be so unbelievably buggy and unrefined that it's not going to be usable. It really adds up lately, I have tons of bugs on my iphone and on my macbook, just little things, but it's still super annoying. I notice that I'm getting used to all these little work arounds, it really reminds me of using a Windows PC 10 years ago. It works, but only if know exactly what works and what doesn't work.

Apple's software department really needs to get their sh't together. It seems to me like they're asked to do more than they can deliver.
 
anyone running the new photo app get it to upload the photos to the iCloud? Mine complained about not having enough storage so I upped it but for over a day the progress bar in the Preferences under iCloud syncing hasn't changed and I don't see any network traffic indicating it is uploading. Shows 42,000 photos to upload.
 
I love Aperture, too, but I don't understand your post. No quotes are needed: Aperture was indeed a professional app, and Apple obviously makes professional hardware. No one at Apple ever claimed that Photos would be a professional program or that was intended to replace Aperture 's functionality. And Photos looks to be a very capable replacement for iPhoto, which is what it was designed to be. Why not accept that Apple made a business decision and go find a program that fits your needs?

I made a business decision to use Apple 'professional' software and hardware - Apple are discontinuing Aperture.

Photos looks to be a marvellous step forward in OOD at a system level.

without a plan/contingency for a pro user how is Apple any more practical than a belief in unicorns when it comes to planning a business?

...are you as vacuous as Apple appear to be when considering professional Mac users?

Do you understand yet?

When I finally (after many years of loyalty (20+)) stop buying Apple hardware for business I'm pretty sure it will impact how I will spend on domesticated consumer electronics too.
 
No you can't. Aperture makes a copy, sends it to the external app to edit and returns it finalized, a destructive edit. You can also edit inside Aperture with a plugin.

What Photos.app is doing is having one central library that any app can edit from outside the Photos.app while making non destructive edits that become available to either the Photos.app or any other third party computable photo editing app.

See how it's done in iOS and that's what you'll have in OSX. It's really a game changer.

What we need to be mindful of is that what we're seeing is a pre-Beta version of the app. A lot can change and probably will change before the app leaves Beta. We're seeing a pretty bare bones version of the app that will be added on to by both Apple and eventually third parties.

Um, non-destructive means it doesn't destroy the original. Editing a copy of that original (master) is editing a COPY. Like RAW. Or making versions in Aperture (can't do that in Photos either). When I use Photos in iOS I can open a photo, make some crops say, and then send it to an app like Afterlight, edit some more, and it saves a copy in the Photos gallery or whatever it's called. More or less what Aperture and a bunch of other apps and applications can do.

The new part of Photos is that it can send edit info to other devices without passing the photo file itself. Photosmith, eg, does that with XMP to pass changes to LR without having to copy an image back but that's mostly for metadata. This will no doubt be nice for iPhone/iPad users, but it isn't anywhere near what Aperture already does, and Apple isn't making any claims that it will. An iPhoto replacement is a good thing; why make it something it isn't?

I just don't see why people don't get that Apple needs and has created a very very good photo editor that is just like their photo editor on their iOS devices; simple, but with a lot of power. For most users it will be all they need. Why on earth would they dump iPhoto and replace it with a pro-like Aperture? They need something simple, not some feature bloated pro application. Kudos to them. Look at video: they still have a pro and a consumer application. Here, they chose not to.
 
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Right. So why are they discontinuing Aperture then? That would completely take them out of the pro photography market.

Maybe they don't feel like there is any money in that market compared to whatever else they can resource.
 
An App Mash-Up

Having downloaded Photos yesterday, I'm just now starting to "fool around" with this new app. On first examination, it looks to me like a mash-up of Picasa and the [old?] iPhoto. Some of the other popular photo apps are likely hinted at within the features of Photos, but since I largely use Photoshop for editing purposes and manually organize my photos, I'm probably missing some obviously "borrowed" features.

Bearing in mind that I have used this app for all of about ten minutes, this is really just how I view it upon first glance. I'm curious if anyone else has noticed any similarities to other popular photo applications on the web or otherwise.

Thanks,

FD
 
Is this just for devs or is this part of the public beta program?

At the time of writing, 10.10.3 is not in the catalogue for the public beta.

FWIW both the public beta catalog and the dev builds catalog are just a defaults command...

Some of the example commands are not suitable for the public beta.

… Sometimes there's a link to the update also?

There'll be no such link within MacRumors Forums (it's contrary to rules) and moreover, it's sometimes not appropriate to apply an update in isolation.

App Store will be the appropriate method.

I'm in the public beta … Shows up …

See above – some of the example commands are not suitable for the public beta. According to my view of the catalogue, 10.10.3 should not be in your view of the App Store.

If there's a configuration utility for the public beta, please reuse that utility; do not allow App Store to install software that is not intended for the public beta.
 
Um, Aperture is great and all but it has its bugs and performance problems. If there is no replacement for Aperture, and from the looks of it there isn’t, then there is no point to stick with it. Eventually, a system update will break it completely and you’re left out in the cold. Stopping development on an application is its death sentence and it gets sent on death row. It’s only a matter of time until it dies.

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That was Aperture but it’s dead now. No other photo app does what Aperture can in terms of workflow and DAM.

Pretty sure Apple said they would still make sure its compatible with future OS updates. Although I'm not sure if that was exclusive to yosemite
 
I made a business decision to use Apple 'professional' software and hardware - Apple are discontinuing Aperture.

Photos looks to be a marvellous step forward in OOD at a system level.

without a plan/contingency for a pro user how is Apple any more practical than a belief in unicorns when it comes to planning a business?

...are you as vacuous as Apple appear to be when considering professional Mac users?

Do you understand yet?

When I finally (after many years of loyalty (20+)) stop buying Apple hardware for business I'm pretty sure it will impact how I will spend on domesticated consumer electronics too.

I have to simply ask why on earth would you get your blood pressure up and get upset over a developer release of an unfinished software? With the plugins that are coming and extensibility not to mention features most likely reserved until later builds I'm not sure I'm following why so many are tore up at this stage.

How many v1 Betas stayed the same with Apple just in the last eight years? Almost always there's a few surprises. With this being a version 1 it will only go up from here and Apple isn't a company to just think one step ahead although it sure takes them enough time on some things to actually show what their plans truly are.

I'm guessing IF there's no additional features released by Spring that in the fall we will have some features announced that will directly involve this and other iLife apps as that's where the product cycle's have been trending and I see more features being added for both iOS and OS X regarding media THIS year.

Most importantly the timing of everything and including my opinion regarding what's to come would be Apple like to come out with a UXKit that adobe and Pixelmatr can take advantage of and still allow native syncing and etc and I see the timing to be this year as they said Support for Aperture and iPhoto was pretty much ending this year which means you have until around October to safely enjoy these options without worry for compatibility issues and it'll give you time to see what's being planned for OS X 10.11 and the apps they choose (iLife?) to update this year.

Regardless this is directed to all those who are freaking out and forgetting Apple rarely reveals everything before a product is done and unlike most updates this is done out of cycle which means they have WWDC 2015 to announce additional features and even then sometimes things don't get announced until product release.
 
anyone running the new photo app get it to upload the photos to the iCloud? Mine complained about not having enough storage so I upped it but for over a day the progress bar in the Preferences under iCloud syncing hasn't changed and I don't see any network traffic indicating it is uploading. Shows 42,000 photos to upload.

Same issue. Worked fine first time, then I switch to another library and made that one the master (the first library had referenced pictures that didn't consolidate correctly, as my NAS wasn't connected at the time and I can no longer fix the bad links). The iCloud sync is now stuck 'Updating...' and has been such for several hours (not stating the number of pics at all).
 
Am I seeing this wrong or have they moved the "quit tab" button in Safari to the left side of the tab instead of the right side?
 

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All these neat new features. I'm impressed but not threatened.

Signed,
A stable Mavericks that boots to the correct screen where the photos are and doesn't have the iPHONE PLUG-of DEATH BLUETOOTH BUG!
 
I've been using Aperture since it cost $499. It's been almost 10 years.

If you can't see how an operating system level library with extensions opens up doors to unlimited types of workflows, then you lack creativity.

A metadata extension for example could add pro level file management to Photos that isn't available or necessary in the base app. An auto importer could help professionals who work with thousands of photos.

How about this for a workflow? You're out in the field, you take photos, unload them via WiFi to your iPhone and you do some sorting and start editing on your way back to the studio. Once there, you get on your Mac and continue editing. You get to a photo that needs a little more TLC so you pick up your iPad, send the photo to Pixelmator via its extension and find all the tools including layers that you need to make your photo look amazing. You run down to your local coffee shop and do some final polishes while you wait for your client to arrive. Together you make a few more adjustments and you AirDrop the photos to her iPhone. She taps her iPhone against yours to pay you via ApplePay, you shake hands and you're wrapped up.

Try to do that in Aperture.

Feel free to do a photo shoot for me! Sounds great other than I don't have an iPhone 6 for Apple Pay. But seriously people need to chill about professionals using whatever device is appropriate for the situation to do the work. As a student I use whatever device is convenient to write papers or read articles for class.
 
I have to simply ask why on earth would you get your blood pressure up and get upset over a developer release of an unfinished software? With the plugins that are coming and extensibility not to mention features most likely reserved until later builds I'm not sure I'm following why so many are tore up at this stage.

How many v1 Betas stayed the same with Apple just in the last eight years? Almost always there's a few surprises. With this being a version 1 it will only go up from here and Apple isn't a company to just think one step ahead although it sure takes them enough time on some things to actually show what their plans truly are.

I'm guessing IF there's no additional features released by Spring that in the fall we will have some features announced that will directly involve this and other iLife apps as that's where the product cycle's have been trending and I see more features being added for both iOS and OS X regarding media THIS year.

Most importantly the timing of everything and including my opinion regarding what's to come would be Apple like to come out with a UXKit that adobe and Pixelmatr can take advantage of and still allow native syncing and etc and I see the timing to be this year as they said Support for Aperture and iPhoto was pretty much ending this year which means you have until around October to safely enjoy these options without worry for compatibility issues and it'll give you time to see what's being planned for OS X 10.11 and the apps they choose (iLife?) to update this year.

Regardless this is directed to all those who are freaking out and forgetting Apple rarely reveals everything before a product is done and unlike most updates this is done out of cycle which means they have WWDC 2015 to announce additional features and even then sometimes things don't get announced until product release.

I'm sorry - I tried to explain but you seem to believe that Apple products are 'at worst' an ill chosen fashion accessory.
 
Question about Photos

I have a question about Photos:

In iPhoto, you could cut and past pictures from one event to another event. You could even drag pictures and you could drop one event on top of another, merging the two events.

I have not found a way to do this in Photos - is it even possible?

Also - I have some 32000 photos in my library - if I would want to put those in iCloud I would need to buy at least 150GB of space... so not happening!
 
Outdated documentation (tar, bsdtar, libarchive)

Beta

For any beta tester who would like to feed a documentation bug to Apple: please see today's comment against a 2010 commit to open source (Be consistent and complete and document all available options.).

Public beta

"the company also indicated it would roll out a public beta "soon.""

says the verge

Thanks –

"… Apple is seeding a version of Photos to registered developers starting today, with a public beta planned for the near future. …"​

 
I'm sorry - I tried to explain but you seem to believe that Apple products are 'at worst' an ill chosen fashion accessory.

After growing up with windows and taking computer science in college using nothing but windows I tend to believe that with Microsoft actually. They're cheaper for a reason. I can't even begin to go into how much of my life I spent troubleshooting and fixing issues with other people's computers or my own wether it was a bad driver to faulty (and cheap parts) to registry issues to viruses to hard crashes bringing the entire system down.

While no hardware and OS is perfect from my personal experience Microsoft and their hardware makers were complacent and always worried about the shareholders versus customer experience and product value and their own bottom line despite during that time being one of the biggest companies on earth.

My hatred for Microsoft isn't from some fanboy war as I never even touch apple until the last five years. My hatred grew from the number of viruses and malware etc that even my parents would get on a yearly basis up to the number of hard crashes while in college to the number of hardware faults I've personally experienced with dell and gateway and even third party hardware like munchkin when I built my own version of an Alienware computer and made it better for a grand less than what they sold it for.

I have examples from programming up to media management and even performance regarding how well apple has served me not to mention reliability. There's a reason professional reviews say Mac's are the best windows computer as u get the best of both worlds but since windows 8.1 I've pretty much stopped using windows except for Microsoft office and only use that due to about five years of VBA macros I've made and the fact some business apps are still windows only as the stigma that windows is better and easier and more reliable still exists within some companies despite the annual sales trends and multitude of articles pointing to the contrary.

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I have a question about Photos:

In iPhoto, you could cut and past pictures from one event to another event. You could even drag pictures and you could drop one event on top of another, merging the two events.

I have not found a way to do this in Photos - is it even possible?

Also - I have some 32000 photos in my library - if I would want to put those in iCloud I would need to buy at least 150GB of space... so not happening!

I've been paying for 200GB since September and IMO it's pretty cheap (especially since no one else such as Dropbox primarily had anything that could beat them when apple announced the price drop) however I can see your point.

As far as moving from within an album I tried that last night and couldn't myself but u can move a folder to another folder.

Not sure but maybe something that gets added in the final release otherwise it's gonna be a pain if we can't truly manage from within certain views.

I also have a love hate relationship going on with how deleting an album or folder doesn't delete the media. On one hand that's perfect but on the other it's a pain. I haven't tried deleting specific images within a folder yet however deleting an entire folder will not delete images inside as they are simply referenced like a database (which is what a photos app typically is).

Out of curiosity have you tried to delete a photo within a folder? I ask because I won't be able to try until late tonight
 
Sorry to be skeptical, but I haven't seen a single pro-level extension, or even the announcement of one from the usual suspects. As it is, Photos appears to be severely gimped (no pun intended) to the point of being unusable.

I admire your, uh, enthusiasm but until I see anything concrete, I'm calling BS.

At launch, Pixelmator for iPad will already be compatible with a Photos app workflow.

You can upload your photos to your iPhone from a wifi enabled SLR then sort them in Photos for iPhone, favouriting some along the way. On your iMac, you can make adjustments such as exposure, contrast, healing.

If you encounter a photo that requires a little more TLC, you can pick up your iPad, open Pixelmator and using a Wacom Bluetooth stylus, you can work on the photo. When you go back to your Mac, the photo will have the Pixelmator adjustments applied.

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That's just one example. You have hundreds of photo apps for iOS that are already compatible with Photos library on iOS which in turns makes them compatible with the Photos library for OS X which is the same. VSCO and Litely are excellent. Big names like NIK would have to be suicidal to not create a Photos extension.
 
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