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Apple Patents Waterproofing Method 'For Shielding Electronic Components from Moisture'
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I was thinking the same thing. The ECU in cars have been treated in a similar manner for multiple years.
If you read the patent, it describes a method for waterproofing, not a product for waterproofing.
Basically they give a negative or positive charge to a component, and then apply the plasma process with the opposite charge to create an extremely thin layer of protection.
This isn't a "we patented waterproofing" patent, which would not be valid anywhere. This is a patent for Apple's specific method of implementing waterproofing.
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This guy gets it!
I don't understand why people don't get what a patent is.
Was waterproof, sorry, here it is http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/23/ios-7...-that-doesnt-stop-people-from-trying-4088922/
1) The US education system!
2) It's not taught in school
3) It's a matter of law, which also isn't generally taught to the populace
Ever since Liquipel showed off their tech as CES a few years ago, I've been hoping that a similar process would be adopted by Apple in their manufacturing process. I've never lost a phone to liquid damage, but it is still one less thing to worry about.
By stating "water resistance" you give the other readers a false sense of security that their device is safe from water and by making such statement some idiot will jump into their pool thinking that their device is "water proof" there is a reason that Apple didn't "advertise" that their phone can last 60 seconds in water because it's water resistance isn't a feature it's merely an effect of their manufacturing process.
Example: the Fitbit Surge Watch is listed as Water Resistant (reworded in the latest paperwork from "water proof") to up to 5ATM. "But you shouldn't Swim or shower with it." The Surge can easily sit in a glass of water for at least 30 min with no problems... There are videos of people swimming with it as well and it is NOT listed as Water PROOF.
So, YOU going on spouting how the iPhone 6 is "Water Resistant" can potentially convince some poor schmo that they can take a dip in the pool with their iPhone 6 in their pocket, which makes you just as bad as the nitwits that said that iOS 8 can make the phones water proof.
But of course YOU ruining someone else's $650+ device isn't a concern of the mods...
iPhone 4S was water resistant too. At least my wifes iPhone 4S was. She dropped it in the washbasin full of cold water. The iPhone was fully submerged for two seconds. There was no damage and the iPhone served her well for a while. We sold it to a friend who is still using it as an iPod replacement without any problems.
This is a good way to prevent accidental water damage on iPhones, like in the rain or dropping it in the toilet bowl, having worked in customer service for an Apple reseller, I've seen too much of iDevices getting their warranty void from liquid damage. Of course if you're just dumping it into water for the heck of it........
Prior art
Interesting that Apple is patenting a mechanism that's been commercially in use for quite some time at the very least at Badger Meter (former employer of mine). Of course,a transceiver encased in a resin isn't nearly as sexy as apple product. But a patent? Sigh.
Interesting that Apple is patenting a mechanism that's been commercially in use for quite some time at the very least at Badger Meter (former employer of mine). Of course,a transceiver encased in a resin isn't nearly as sexy as apple product. But a patent? Sigh.
The fact that some people will be stupid and throw caution to the wind does not negate a simple statement of fact backed by evidence. Water resistance is a vague term that can give any of us some hope in the face of calamity, but should not be a signal to go swimming with an iPhone 6/6 Plus. Anyone reckless enough to give it a go needs to reckon on possible consequences. People need to retain some basic sense that action=consequences and apply logic and reason accordingly to their decisions, and then own said consequences and not act like a child and point fingers at some stranger on the Internet and say "But HE said it was okay."
This is long overdue. Personally, I want to see Apple make their phones a little bit more durable and rock features for real life use. I want to see waterproofing, Gorilla Glass, and larger batteries. The protruding camera on the iPhone 6 still irritates me. They could've made the phone a little bit thicker and boasted a much larger battery as a feature.
Let them withstand a little bit of abuse. It doesn't have to withstand 10 min under water but it would be a damn sight better than 3 sec of some water splashed on it.
Let them withstand a little bit of abuse. It doesn't have to withstand 10 min under water but it would be a damn sight better than 3 sec of some water splashed on it.
You tell that to the people who fell for the "iOS7 makes your iPhone Waterproof" prank... There is a new naive idiot born every minute... so don't assume that just because you are smart enough to not fall for it, that there isn't someone out there that won't. I've seen my share of stupid comments on this site to know there is no shortage of stupid.
Your ignorant post doesn't deserve an intelligent response if you truly think I would be at fault because some "poor schmo" decides to go swimming with his iPhone because he read a random comment on MacRumors about iPhone 6 being water resistant. I even said in my original post that Apple doesn't advertise that claim for obvious reasons.
Because it's not an actual thing. Just a BS claim by ignorant people like yourself. Apple didn't set out to make a water resistant iPhone 6, it's just a result of the build. So don't go claiming the device is water resistant.
In all likelihood, your employer wasn't using the same method. If they were, the patent wouldn't have been granted.
Here's what the patent is about
- The patent is not about waterproofing.
- The patent is not about how the material is deposited.
Those are known methods.
- The core patent is for putting holes in a the little metal shields you see above RF components, so that the waterproofing material can go through the holes and cover the items inside the shield.
I kid you not.
- Follow-on claims are for putting (metal) tape over the holes afterwards.
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So, if your child asked you how to get waterproof spray inside his toy, and you said "Let's drill some holes, spray inside, then cover them up again with duct tape", consider yourself patently smart.
- The patent is not about waterproofing.
- The patent is not about how the material is deposited.
Those are known methods.
- The core patent is for putting holes in a the little metal shields you see above RF components, so that the waterproofing material can go through the holes and cover the items inside the shield.
I kid you not.
- Follow-on claims are for putting (metal) tape over the holes afterwards.
So, if your child asked you how to get waterproof spray inside his toy, and you said "Let's drill some holes, spray inside, then cover them up again with duct tape", consider yourself patently smart.
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I'm not saying I assume there aren't people that simple-minded. I'm just saying the fact there such shockingly recklessly naive people in existence doesn't negate an objective statement of fact. And it doesn't matter if Apple intentionally didn't give the iPhone some degree of water resistance, if it demonstrably has any, it is fair to state as much. It's absurd to police simple statements like this on a forum presumably frequented by adults. Why lower the standards of discourse to accommodate the lowest common denominator?
But okay, fine...people, this is mom speaking: don't stick your IPhones under water. Ever. Or you may regret the results.
No, it's absurd to claim that the iPhone is even "water resistant" when Apple themselves have NEVER said that they intended to make the phone water resistant. A couple of people decide to test the "resistance to water" of the iPhone and it lasts for a few seconds under water and people claim " it's water resistant!"; it's ridiculous.
Hey I've touched my toaster with wet hands before... does that mean it's water resistant? Maybe you should take a bath with yours...
For ever loving christ this might the dumbest conversation I've ever participated in...
The iPhone ISN'T water resistant until Apple says it is... honestly, how difficult is this to comprehend? (yes despite that it can be tossed in a full sink for up to 60 seconds)
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