OS X Yosemite Users Experiencing Issues With YouTube Videos in Safari [Updated]

HyperZboy · Dec 11, 2014

jozeppy26 said:
I use it because it's nice to click a link and not have various flash videos or ads or etc. start randomly playing in the background making noise. Also, it's nice because you are able to download the video with an option in the right click context menu. Lastly, there's an option in the right click context menu to open the video in Quicktime player.

What albusseverus probably meant by "keep it pure" is that with clicktoplugin you are able to view many videos across the web using html5 instead of the default player when without clicktoplugin the html5 video option would have been unavailable to you (and only present on devices such as the iPad that lack flash player). Can you disable the flash plugin and just never use flash? Sure, but of course then it becomes a longer process when you encounter a video where flash is your only option to view. Clicktoplugin makes resorting back to flash if necessary as simple as one mouse click.

Ok, all valid points. I get it now. Thanks for the explanation.

Like everybody I wish FLASH would die, but unfortunately many streaming sites are still FLASH ONLY based. I can't watch some sports events at all on an iPhone or iPad and Safari on Macs really no longer handles FLASH well anymore.

This I why I want Firefox on iPhone/iPad.

jblagden · Jan 5, 2015

Oh

Michael Goff said:
Chrome doesn't use WebKit.

Sorry. Only the mobile version uses Webkit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome

Michael Goff · Jan 5, 2015

jblagden said:
Sorry. Only the mobile version uses Webkit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome

Every iOS browser uses the same WebKit. But other than that, all Chrome uses Blink.

jblagden · Jan 6, 2015

Okay

Michael Goff said:
Every iOS browser uses the same WebKit. But other than that, all Chrome uses Blink.

Okay, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for pointing that out.

APlotdevice · Jan 6, 2015

Michael Goff said:
Every iOS browser uses the same WebKit. But other than that, all Chrome uses Blink.

jblagden said:
Okay, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for pointing that out.

To be clear, Chrome did use WebKit until April of 2013. And "Blink isn't an entirely new engine, but rather was forked from said WebKit engine.

Anyway, this can't be a problem with WebKit, as the problem can be fixed by simply changing the user agent string in the development menu (even identifying as an older version of Safari fixes it). My guess is that Google tried to implement the "advanced HTML5 video" (ie DRM) feature in Yosemite and failed.

Michael Goff · Jan 6, 2015

jblagden said:
Okay, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for pointing that out.

No problem.

APlotdevice said:
To be clear, Chrome did use WebKit until April of 2013. And "Blink isn't an entirely new engine, but rather was forked from said WebKit engine.

Anyway, this can't be a problem with WebKit, as the problem can be fixed by simply changing the user agent string in the development menu (even identifying as an older version of Safari fixes it). My guess is that Google tried to implement the "advanced HTML5 video" (ie DRM) feature in Yosemite and failed.

That makes sense.

MacMythos · Apr 7, 2015

I've had the blocked Plug-in message come up on YouTube and Photobucket a few times over the past year. It seems to clear itself after several weeks, I believe when Flash Player updates to a version that is compatible. I've been about a month without Youtube or Photobucket now and I'm getting pretty impatient.

I read back a few pages and looks like the thing to try is to download this:

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/37890/clicktoplugin

Will this create a click-to-plugin icon in my applications folder that I may drag to the trash if I want to delete it? ....or is it more complicated to get rid of click-to-plugin if it does not fix my problem?

LucasLand · Apr 7, 2015

MacMythos said:
I've had the blocked Plug-in message come up on YouTube and Photobucket a few times over the past year. It seems to clear itself after several weeks, I believe when Flash Player updates to a version that is compatible. I've been about a month without Youtube or Photobucket now and I'm getting pretty impatient.

I read back a few pages and looks like the thing to try is to download this:

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/37890/clicktoplugin

Will this create a click-to-plugin icon in my applications folder that I may drag to the trash if I want to delete it? ....or is it more complicated to get rid of click-to-plugin if it does not fix my problem?

youtube switched to is using html5 instead of flash. i don't have a problem

MacMythos · Apr 7, 2015

Wow, thankyou for the super fast reply (like 25 seconds!).

I do not know what html5 is. How do I use and should I get rid of Flash Player?

LucasLand · Apr 7, 2015

MacMythos said:
Wow, thankyou for the super fast reply (like 25 seconds!).

I do not know what html5 is. How do I use and should I get rid of Flash Player?

you don't do anything. that is done on youtube's end. they are now broadcasting their videos with html5 instead of flash. I would still keep flash updated cause many sites still use it. youtube/google decided to make a giant change and lead others by using html5

MacMythos · Apr 7, 2015

ok. So I ust keep waiting?

Thanks Lucas. Lets hope whatever fix html5 provides is a longterm fix.

MacMythos · Apr 8, 2015

LucasLand said:
you don't do anything. that is done on youtube's end. they are now broadcasting their videos with html5 instead of flash. I would still keep flash updated cause many sites still use it. youtube/google decided to make a giant change and lead others by using html5

bump.

I have to wait for Youtube? It seems like other Macs are using Youtube right now. What do I do so I can be like the rest of you guys, change to a browser other than Safari?

albusseverus · Apr 8, 2015

jozeppy26 said:
What albusseverus probably meant by "keep it pure" is that with clicktoplugin you are able to view many videos across the web using html5 instead of the default player

Hi, sorry I don't get back much. Keep it pure means NO FLASH ever.

I have 3 Macs, no Flash on any of them. Click-To-Plugin just forces HTML (if you set that), whereas Flash makes more money for a site if it can force it on you. Adobe is in the government tracking and profiling business - don't worry folks, it's only "ad-tracking" read about it here.
Let me think, who would pay more for profiling data, advertisers or the NSA? Umm.

Jobs made sure Flash was eliminated from Mac OS as well as iOS. Mac OS no longer ships with Flash and no longer keeps it up to date automatically.

It's the reason I have a mortal fear of Kevin Lynch being at the heart of Apple technology. Apple may have been clean while Jobs was alive, but no more. Flash, the unluckiest software of all, so many security holes, it can't be an accident.

Cheers

MacMythos · Apr 9, 2015

I'd really like to try the click-to-plugin.

This link brings up the page but nothing happens when I click DOWNLOAD.

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/37890/clicktoplugin

albusseverus · Apr 9, 2015

Use http://hoyois.github.io/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/

MacMythos · Apr 10, 2015

Just downloaded clicktoplugin from the page you linked. It is in my Downloads box but I do not see it n my applications folder. Still have blocked plugin message on Youtube vids.

I do not think I have Yosemite. I believe it is Snow Leopard. OS X version 10.6.8 could that be why click to plug-in is not working?

Michael Goff · Apr 10, 2015

MacMythos said:
Just downloaded clicktoplugin from the page you linked. It is in my Downloads box but I do not see it n my applications folder. Still have blocked plugin message on Youtube vids.

I do not think I have Yosemite. I believe it is Snow Leopard. OS X version 10.6.8 could that be why click to plug-in is not working?

Click to plugin isn't an application, it's a Safari extension. I don't think it's going to show up in your applications folder. Just install it by double clicking and check safari to make sure it installed properly.

MacMythos · Apr 13, 2015

Thanks, Michael. That seems to work. There is a delay to load the video now but it works! Embedded videos seem to load and then stop after a few seconds but if I can watch uninterrupted on Youtube, that is a lot better than not watching at all.

Now what if I want to uninstall click-to plugin?

MacMythos · Apr 13, 2015

Now it quit working. The blocked plugin message comes up again. I downloaded click-to-plugin a second time and installed it but to no avail.

At this point, I think I'd like to just quit. Do I need to uninstall click-to plugin or can I just delete it from my Downloads menu and it's gone?

heathf · May 17, 2015

DotCom2 said:
Dear Apple,
I know you don't read these groups (maybe so) but could you please stop putting stuff out that just breaks other stuff? I mean can't you just check it out better first? Hhhhhhhh your reputation is at stake here and I am embarrassed for you. I LOVE you Apple but C'mon ppl!

As a software engineer I can tell you that it's literally impossible to test something as complex as an operating system to the point that there are no bugs at all. Especially when you're talking about issues with 3rd party websites and software. Bugs are going to make it to the public even though Apple runs tens of thousands of automated & unit tests against every build, and has hundreds of manual testers performing regression on the releases. If bugs become habitual then obviously there's a deeper issue in the development process, but overall I'd say they're pretty solid. I know it may not seem it, but expecting totally bug free code out of a piece of software as large as OS X is not only unreasonable, it's unattainable.

Michael Goff · May 17, 2015

MacMythos said:
Thanks, Michael. That seems to work. There is a delay to load the video now but it works! Embedded videos seem to load and then stop after a few seconds but if I can watch uninterrupted on Youtube, that is a lot better than not watching at all.

Now what if I want to uninstall click-to plugin?

I forgot to answer this a long time ago. Safari > Preferences > Extensions. It should be an option when you click on the extension you want to remove on the list.

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