If earlier versions of OS X (Mavericks?) on the same machine and under the same conditions do not present the issue, then there is strong hope. Otherwise, it might be a hardware bottleneck---a grim scenario.
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2015 Macbook Pro's Intel Iris 6100 is so choppy in Yosemite
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If earlier versions of OS X (Mavericks?) on the same machine and under the same conditions do not present the issue, then there is strong hope. Otherwise, it might be a hardware bottleneck---a grim scenario.
Retina macbooks have this problem since 2012 .
Here is my experience with a mid 2014 model : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TLbzxjJSiI .
I already sold 3 macbooks because of this lag issue . All retina model have this issues , it's both a software and hardware problem . The way that OS X scalles the resolution is by making every pixlel 2x and than scale is back to 1440x900 so for the graphics card is like running on a 4k resolution . If you install windows everything is very smooth and fast !
Here is my experience with a mid 2014 model : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TLbzxjJSiI .
I already sold 3 macbooks because of this lag issue . All retina model have this issues , it's both a software and hardware problem . The way that OS X scalles the resolution is by making every pixlel 2x and than scale is back to 1440x900 so for the graphics card is like running on a 4k resolution . If you install windows everything is very smooth and fast !
I very much agree with this. I have owned 2 retina MacBooks. A 2013 and now a 2015. They both had the UI lag.
Turning on reduce transparency makes the world of difference. It pretty much totally eliminates the issue, which leads me to believe it is a software problem. By pretty much, I mean my UI lag totally goes away by turning that on.
If I would be Apple, this would be a #1 priority issue. Since they haven't fix this since 3 dot releases, I think chances are close to 0.
It is a lot better with the dGPU, but I don't always have that on. It reduces battery life and makes the machine hotter. Also not everyone has a dGPU in their 15" rMBP.
My experience exactly and I didn't have it on Mavericks, this is CLEARLY a software issue!
I never believed that increase contrast makes any difference, and it clearly did not make any for me until 10.10.3, but since this update my machine acts more or less as it should when I turn it on. This is clearly not a solution, because OS X is so ugly this way that I could scream, but at least the animation is around 30 fps with several day uptime with a 27" external display attached too. My only problem is now that entering Mission Control for the first time is slow, but after that it is good enough.
It is very strange that this very common method works for me since 10.10.3 only...
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-EOFo6KN9Q
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Have any of you tried using the app "display menu." For some reason, when I set the resolution using that, all of the lag woes disappear. I can leave LCD smooth scrolling and increase transparency off with no lag. Give that a try.
Which Display Menu app do you refer to? This one? https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/display-menu/id549083868?mt=12
Which resolution are you using?
the one you linked to. I switch between 1440 x 900 and 1650 x 1050.
I use spaces when I use 1440 x 900.
Noah this worked for me also its extremely smooth now! Shame like you said OS X looks horrendous.
I don't mind the look except for the "shelf", but modern it's not. It's early windows retro, there's no way flat will ever be modern since they started flat. It's like cell phones going back to bag phones and calling it modern.
I really don't get why some people refuse to except the new look, especially those with Retina displaysTo me it looks very modern and nicely optimized for Retina displays.
10.10.3 supplemental update with an updated GPU driver did not help anything, as expected
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/16/apple-10-10-3-supplemental-update/
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/16/apple-10-10-3-supplemental-update/
- Purchased new 2015 13" Macbook Pro Retina last month
- Did not restore backup from old machine on purpose to rule out glitches such as this annoying lag. Set up system as new and installed all my apps, plugins, etc.
- Lag issue mainly while invoking MISSION CONTROL, RESIZING WINDOWS, SCROLLING GRAPHICS HEAVY WEBSITES.
- Updated from 10.10.1 to 10.10.2 (same issues)
- Updated from 10.10.2 to 10.10.3 (same issues)
- Tried PRAM RESET which reduced the lag by about 50%, but later returned to same amount of lag before the reset (this was about 1/2 day later while browsing websites)
- Enabled the INCREASE CONTRAST checkbox within ACCESSIBILITY/DISPLAY
which greatly improved my system animation to buttery smoothness, but not at the level I'm used to.
- After reading through this entire thread, I myself have come to the conclusion that Intel needs to work with Apple to put out better graphics drivers and clean up Yosemite. Instead of releasing a new OS this fall, improve on Yosemite.
- For goodness sakes, please don't return your new system because of this unless your screen has dead pixels......
- Did not restore backup from old machine on purpose to rule out glitches such as this annoying lag. Set up system as new and installed all my apps, plugins, etc.
- Lag issue mainly while invoking MISSION CONTROL, RESIZING WINDOWS, SCROLLING GRAPHICS HEAVY WEBSITES.
- Updated from 10.10.1 to 10.10.2 (same issues)
- Updated from 10.10.2 to 10.10.3 (same issues)
- Tried PRAM RESET which reduced the lag by about 50%, but later returned to same amount of lag before the reset (this was about 1/2 day later while browsing websites)
- Enabled the INCREASE CONTRAST checkbox within ACCESSIBILITY/DISPLAY
which greatly improved my system animation to buttery smoothness, but not at the level I'm used to.
- After reading through this entire thread, I myself have come to the conclusion that Intel needs to work with Apple to put out better graphics drivers and clean up Yosemite. Instead of releasing a new OS this fall, improve on Yosemite.
- For goodness sakes, please don't return your new system because of this unless your screen has dead pixels......
I'm actually hoping that they release the new OS. It is said to be a 'Snow Leopard'-like OS release. I'm skipping Yosemite entirely and is patiently waiting for that since my laptop runs perfectly without lag now, although it still has some very slight stuttering now and then. Also yes, it is a software issue not a hardware.
So I just updated my mid-2012 15" rMBP (2.6 i7, 16GB, 512GB) to 10.10.4. My last 13" mid-2014 rMBP and this one both suffered from UI lag. But now, after a few hours of being on it, I do not feel the lag anymore. Everything is lightning fast as it should be. Graphics card switching on, no high contrast, all transparency on. I honestly do feel a difference and while at first I thought it was placebo, it's not the case. Still feels speedy to me. Anyone else feel a difference on 10.10.4?
I was skeptical of this... But I downlaoded it and sure enough, it makes it smoother. Thank you!!
Wow, I wasn't even aware that OS X 10.10.4 Beta came out today. I will test it out on my machine and see if there is any improvement.
Yes, I feel the difference! For me, it is much worse than ever before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIW9nVw9TEc
Hey Guys,
Just bought (yesterday) a new 13" retina 2015.
Didn't read this before buying it, but i was experiencing some lag and did a search, didn't take long before noticing all the buzz regarding this issue.
I came from a Macbook Air 13" 2012 which didn't give me a single problem for almost 3 years.
This machine runs fast and it's awesome. I had to buy a second machine for work, so i thought to upgrade to a retina.
I can return the machine with no problems, i bought it on the Apple online store.
The thing is, should i return it for the same model, or the odds to get this issue are high and should instead buy another Macbook air?
I don't mind at all the air, and i know it's a great machine and works great for my job (web development).
I just don't want to return machine after machine until find one that works without lagging.
By the way, im not experiencing such lag as seen on some videos, it's the expose and switch desktops that are not as fluid as my MBA.
Thanks.
Just bought (yesterday) a new 13" retina 2015.
Didn't read this before buying it, but i was experiencing some lag and did a search, didn't take long before noticing all the buzz regarding this issue.
I came from a Macbook Air 13" 2012 which didn't give me a single problem for almost 3 years.
This machine runs fast and it's awesome. I had to buy a second machine for work, so i thought to upgrade to a retina.
I can return the machine with no problems, i bought it on the Apple online store.
The thing is, should i return it for the same model, or the odds to get this issue are high and should instead buy another Macbook air?
I don't mind at all the air, and i know it's a great machine and works great for my job (web development).
I just don't want to return machine after machine until find one that works without lagging.
By the way, im not experiencing such lag as seen on some videos, it's the expose and switch desktops that are not as fluid as my MBA.
Thanks.