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Does anyone know what GPU you need to get resolution independence?


Rister said:
MarkCollette said:
- Have an address bar so I can copy and paste file locations. Really useful to a developer, especially with working between the Finder and Terminal.
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Drag-n-drop file/folder in terminal (you can drag icon in title bar too)


MarkCollette said:
- Have a way of seeing how much disk space directories and their children take up, both with number sizes and graphically.
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Info window? You won't have the graphical view, though.
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Cool, at least now I'll be able to copy things from the Finder to the Terminal with your approach. Still won't work in reverse though.

The thing is that the size is around a six digit number, something that easily would fit in the existing Finder window, without needing another popup inspector window. Especially on small 1024x768 screens like my 12" iBook.


bretm said:
Web pages are NOT resolution independent for the most part.
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Not disagreeing with you at all, but just thinking how sad this is. Anyone remember when HTML first came out, it was a language to describe the logical structure of a document, not really how to lay it out. The idea being that any browser on any platform or device could render it however. And here we are, where websites are made to fit only at 800x600 or 1024x768, and won't take advantage of larger resolution screens.


decksnap said:
Yeah I don't think so. Unless you scale it to an exact multiple, it's going to look like crap.
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Depends on the anti-aliasing algorithm. If it's done in hardware, then exact multiples shouldn't be an issue.


gkhaldi said:
I'm with you all the way on this.

On the download, right-click yr desktop and click keep arranged by ...whatever you like... to prevent from the downloads stacking up eachother
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Thank you, but I put my icons in specific places on my Desktop, so if I organised by name or anything, then it would jumble everything up.
 
So am I wrong in thinking that resolution independence basically enables me to run the Finder at 1440x900 or whatever it is...Photoshop at 1680x1040 or whatever...and Safari at 1024x768?

I was all excited to create photoshop docs in huge resolution and look at pron the way I used to...where the picture took up the whole screen and wasn't high res. 😉

Am I wrong here? I assume Apple would put the options in terms people can understand, like "this app is this resolution and this app is run at a different resolution"
 
Res Independance

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but WoW has UI scaling under the video options. Try it out yourself to see resolution independant UI in action.
 
doubledangerbat said:
So am I wrong in thinking that resolution independence basically enables me to run the Finder at 1440x900 or whatever it is...Photoshop at 1680x1040 or whatever...and Safari at 1024x768?
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No, that's not what it means. It means the UI is resolution independent of its display device, not that each application runs at a screen resolution different than others. This is designed so that screen resolution can increase without making the UI teeny tiny and unreadable.
 
NicP said:
Specifying sizes in mm and inches would have to be the worst way to do web design. I have good eyesight so i want my webpages to be small, my parents have worse eyesight so they like to scale everything larger, their solution at the moment is to decrease the screen resolution, this is very crude on an lcd. When resolution independence becomes standard they will be able to make everything larger while still maintaining the default resolution of their monitor, but if everyone designs webpages in mm or inches then the webpages wont become bigger, completely defeating the purpose.
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No, this is still a good thing. If web pages are designed in inches and millimeters, then your parents will not have to change the screen resolution to increase the size. Instead there should be a method of scaling the page so that it will be, say, 1.5 times bigger. After scaling, the page will still be as sharp as it is at the normal size. That's significantly better than reducing the resolution on an LCD.

Now this is dependent on this scaling method being available, but if Apple doesn't provide it you can bet somebody out there will come up with a utility to do it.

Resolution independence has no downsides.
 
Spades said:
Resolution independence has no downsides.
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Except for the downsides we're discussing. Macs being on the cutting edge of technology won't instantly transform the billions of web pages into scaleable, 'new web' sites. These sites are not going to instantly decide to redesign their pages at a higher dpi just because this new technology is out. It's not like they all redesign when bigger monitors come out. These transitions take many years.
 
decksnap said:
Except for the downsides we're discussing. Macs being on the cutting edge of technology won't instantly transform the billions of web pages into scaleable, 'new web' sites. These sites are not going to instantly decide to redesign their pages at a higher dpi just because this new technology is out. It's not like they all redesign when bigger monitors come out. These transitions take many years.
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At the very least, resolution independence is no worse than changing the display resolution. If you change the display resolution, the monitor is simply doing scaling automatically to match it to the native resolution. However, it's scaling the entire screen as a single bitmap. This is why the screen looks blurry if you run at anything but the native resolution. (Note: This is with LCDs.)

With resolution indepence, at worst you do the same type of scaling in the OS. However in this case, the scaling algorithm affects only one app, the algorithm can be updated, and it can be better than the one used by the monitor.

It's not like they all redesign when bigger monitors come out.
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And now they won't have to.
 
Spades said:
At the very least, resolution independence is no worse than changing the display resolution. If you change the display resolution, the monitor is simply doing scaling automatically to match it to the native resolution. However, it's scaling the entire screen as a single bitmap. This is why the screen looks blurry if you run at anything but the native resolution. (Note: This is with LCDs.)

With resolution indepence, at worst you do the same type of scaling in the OS. However in this case, the scaling algorithm affects only one app, the algorithm can be updated, and it can be better than the one used by the monitor.



And now they won't have to.
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I guess we'll agree to disagree, and wait to find out. We already know that Apple knows that scaling things up will result in a loss of quality, or else they wouldn't be rebuilding all their graphics.
 
Can't wait

I think we should start a new thread and start counting down. Ha. 😀 MBP madness. Leopard Madness.... I hope this release happens soon. I was hoping for a nice surprise with this already installed on my new MBP C2D.. I could only dream ... ha
 
I think people are forgetting one very nice thing about res independent UI's. Sure you can scale them up for huge monitors but you can also scale them down for smaller monitors (12" PB for instance). Try it with your browser text. Scale it down all the way (Command+Shift+minus in Safari) in the browser and you can see a heck of a lot more and it still looks good. Sure you'll still be using the same pixel density but it is possible to give you more space to work with by scaling down the OS size. This is very exciting for a 12" PB user.
 
Come on Leopard!

I've never owned a mac, but I'm planning on buying a macbook as soon as they release leopard.....so apple please help .... I'm just sitting waiting before I can use some mac goodness 😱
 
buckyballs said:
I've never owned a mac, but I'm planning on buying a macbook as soon as they release leopard.....so apple please help .... I'm just sitting waiting before I can use some mac goodness 😱
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Same boat here. I'm absolutely gagging for a Mac, but with Leopard being so close I can't justify buying one until it's out. I have everything crossed for Macworld...
 
iChat Customer Service?

i was just on the apple site looking at a mac pro, and when i clicked on the apple page, for a split second i saw this blue ichat icon above the customer service number that said chat now!!!😱 it only flashed for a second, and when i hit the back button, it was gone. 😕
this may be the new customer service system.

here is a mock-up of what i saw, again i only saw it for a second so i am not too sure about the lateral placement. i know there was a iTunes 7 blue colored, vector looking ichat symbol and it said chat now. I saw the icon first, and ended my glance at with my eyes moving down towards the service number, so i didn't get all the visual hierarchy digested, but it looked like an ichat tech support service, maybe the will add this to the $50k apple care for servers gets you? fro
 

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