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who will use safari for windows

do you use safari on your windows machine as main browser

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 57.8%

  • No

    Votes: 27 42.2%
  • Total voters
    64
Where is this "Safari is faster" coming from? It dosen't seem any faster to me, and is really clunky compared to Firefox IMO. I guess it launches slightly faster, but that's no big deal. I spend a lot more time USING it than LAUNCHING it.

It's a huge step backwards from Firefox, or even IE. Somehow it seems especially lame on Windows, which is disappointing.

I do really like the way it searches though. I'd love Firefox to rip that off-it basically already does that, but not as fancy, and the way the screen darkens makes it a lot easier to locate the text you're searching for.

When I think about it, I'm amazed that an open source project can produce a product (Firefox) that makes the competing products from two big companies feel antiquated and annoyingly clunky.
 
safari for win doesn't have good review, by almost anybody, search google for safari windows. and here is a bunch of titles like:

Mac apps on Windows suck. Here's why.
Who in Their Right Mind Would Run Safari on Windows?
Day One' for Safari for Windows Becomes Zero-Day Nightmare
Safari For Windows: Six Security Exploits In One Afternoon

Its a cost of reputation for apple.

there is only one thing u can do, apple, make it into a "real native windows" app. then u have better chance to compete first with opera/firefox/IE.
 
It is beta and should get better by October.

I wonder when/if apple will release download statistics for safari windows and the number will be?
 
yup i have to aggree you're way too critical the app is still in beta, you can't judge a app in beta it's not finished yet!
 
macridah said:
It is beta and should get better by October.

I wonder when/if apple will release download statistics for safari windows and the number will be?
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im sure many ppl will try it for the hype of 'apple production', remember when fx/opera claimed their record breaking download? the truth will only be told later by market share number.
 
Southernboy said:
I'm struggling to think of a typical Safari user on Windows. The average Joe will use IE from day one and see no need to change. The more advanced Windows' user will already have one or more very capable alternative browsers. Which leaves mac users who are more comfortable with Safari.
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When working to increase your computer marketshare it helps if your default browser is supported almost everywhere and the only way to do that is by having the browser used more. How many Mac users who use Safari are stuck on Windows at work? Now they can use Safari (if work allows) and now everywhere they went on the web during work that used to register a Firefox hit or *shudder* and IE hit now get Safari hits. More websites take notice and make sure they work in Safari (shouldn't be hard being standards compliant and all).

Southernboy said:
I just can't see what Safari brings to the party... a lot of mac users don't even use it. And all this at a time when Apple are apparently short of human resources :confused:
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Some Mac users don't use it simply because they want one browser on their Macs and Windows machines. Now they can do this with Safari rather than Firefox or some other browser.

TheAnswer said:
No one has mentioned another obvious category of users: iPhone users who may want to use the same browser on their phone and PC.
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Or just people who want to develop iPhone apps without having to buy a Mac for Safari. But if the iPhone takes off big then it could influence people to have a common browser as well.

I do roughly 0.5% of my browsing on PCs so I'll probably give Safari a shot just to try to skew some statistics to hopefully increase Safari compatibility. Of course about half the time when I do anything with the web on Windows it's running Windows Update which AFAIK is still IE only.
 
I would use it on my work PC, but it's giving me "you need to log in to the WebURLProtectionSpaceProxyHTTP proxy server..."!

It doesn't do this on my Mac. FF and IE don't do this. What's the problem!?!?
 
Sounds like your work is using some weird proxy server. Maybe you already configured Firefox and IE, or they're able to configure themselves automatically?
 
Wolfpup said:
Sounds like your work is using some weird proxy server. Maybe you already configured Firefox and IE, or they're able to configure themselves automatically?
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Could be. IE was pre-installed when I sat down at the computer. I downloaded and installed FF myself, and I didn't do any special configuring, so I don't know...
 
I'm using Safari right now at work on my Mac Mini XP partition, and it runs wonderfully.

It does look weird though, but that's because nothing else in Windows has the same clean look to it that Apple applications have. In OS X it would fit right in, but in nasty Windows world it looks weird and out of place.

As far as compatibility, everything works for me and all the websites I go to, so I will officially be using Safari as my default browser at work from this point on. :)

And remember, this is just a beta version.
 
Opera on windows is pure heaven, just cannot be beaten

I can understand people on Mac using Safari since it is the default browser. But let's be honest, it isn't anything special when it comes to browsing. Opera on windows is always going to be a million times better, and even opera barely has any marketshare. Perhaps people that use iTunes regularly may see some reason to use another good Apple app, but I am not too sure.
 
Snowy_River said:
Could be. IE was pre-installed when I sat down at the computer. I downloaded and installed FF myself, and I didn't do any special configuring, so I don't know...
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I double checked, and all three programs supposedly store their Proxy information seperatly.

-in Firefox, it's under Tools/Options -> Advanced -> Network -> Connection (Configure how Firefox connects to the Internet).

Check that and see if it’s set for anything.

IE you can get to the control panel -> Internet Options -> Connections -> LAN settings.

Safari seems to have it under Edit/Preferences -> Advanced -> Proxies
Only on mine, the “Change Settings…” button is grayed out.

So maybe Firefox was able to automatically configure itself for your proxy, but Safari doesn’t handle proxies yet?
 
Wolfpup said:
I double checked, and all three programs supposedly store their Proxy information seperatly.

-in Firefox, it's under Tools/Options -> Advanced -> Network -> Connection (Configure how Firefox connects to the Internet).

Check that and see if it’s set for anything.

IE you can get to the control panel -> Internet Options -> Connections -> LAN settings.

Safari seems to have it under Edit/Preferences -> Advanced -> Proxies
Only on mine, the “Change Settings…” button is grayed out.

So maybe Firefox was able to automatically configure itself for your proxy, but Safari doesn’t handle proxies yet?
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Yeah. I saw that. Change Settings is grayed out on mine, too.
 
i'm using safari for windows right now to post this ! its a tad bit buggy, but it seems faster than firefox and atleast 30,000 times faster than IE 7. it makes errors sometimes when displaying websites tho.. pretty effin good for a better imo.
 
weg said:
Ok, you've to post "Apple good, Microsoft bad" a hundred times until tomorrow. That'll teach you! :D
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Hee hee. What's sad is I won't even give IE 7 a fair shake. I won't use it just because I don't want to give Microsoft anything (in this case, boosts to their browser marketshare). But...ugh...I really do hate Safari compared to Firefox. Or Internet Explorer, if it was made by someone else :D
 
Dustman said:
i'm using safari for windows right now to post this ! its a tad bit buggy, but it seems faster than firefox and atleast 30,000 times faster than IE 7. it makes errors sometimes when displaying websites tho.. pretty effin good for a better imo.
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Seriously, where is this "faster" thing coming from? I'm using an old Pentium 4 2.4GHz/533MHz system, and Firefox is faster on here, if anything. I think Safari launches slightly faster, but feels clunkier once it's up.

Is this just psychological on everyone's part, since Apple says so? Or is every computer I own somehow the exception to Safari being faster? I don't even think it's really faster on my G3.
 
the iphone connection

Maybe I don't understand this all correctly but...

Durring the steve-note it was mentioned that developers creating their third party aps would run with in safari. So making safari available for windows will make the iphone that much more usable for pc users. itunes is on widows for the ipod, safari to windows is going to do something too, we just don't know what yet.
 
Cloud9 said:
Maybe I don't understand this all correctly but...

Durring the steve-note it was mentioned that developers creating their third party aps would run with in safari. So making safari available for windows will make the iphone that much more usable for pc users. itunes is on widows for the ipod, safari to windows is going to do something too, we just don't know what yet.
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Some articles today have been saying it might be to allow developers to test stuff on Windows too. I'm not really clear on what the limits are for iPhone development, since verything has to run through a browser.

Will that mean stuff can still be offline, and run like a normal program? could we still see Office type apps? I don't know.
 
I just installed it on XP at work, and it is sooooo much faster resolving all of the pages I visit. Bye Bye IE!

And I use it on my mac....firefox is too slow to load on the mac, and camino is ok, but safari is aesthetically more pleasing too.

to the poster who said alot of mac users don't use safari, i have 2 points.

1. windows users use IE because they don't know any better.
2. alot of windows users don't use IE.

Best, and enjoy,

Brian
 
bmcgonag said:
1. windows users use IE because they don't know any better.
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this is precisely whats wrong with apple's windows app developing philoshophy. they kept thinking they need to give windows user what osx users like because windows users "don't know any better". so in every piece of apple's windows version app:

they break windows UI, inserted user-level chunky codes into the app which causes slowness of the system, each piece of apple's windows version app normally takes 2-3 times ram than other windows app who does similar tasks

they disregard the easy windows behavior such as border drag re-size etc, and cause inconvenience for users

they produce invasive apps despite calling windows being easily invaded.

Please, apple, for your own reputation, make some freaking native windows apps, make windows users who use your app comfortable.

Just goto any windows-centric website and check for yourself, how man windows users feel good about apple's windows version apps? Does apple learn anything?

U can call me hater, but I guarantee you apple would benefit more by following "native-lize" pathway than fooling themselves with the meaningless praises from cheerleaders.
 
I agree in regards to Safari-I think it just looks and acts nasty on Windows (and this speed thing is BOGUS. Firefox is as fast or faster on every system-OS X or Windows-I've ever tried).

I do generally like iTunes' interface though. Maybe it's just because it's better than anything else I've used.

I installed the Zune software last night, just to see what it was like :D talk about primitive.
 
Wolfpup said:
I do generally like iTunes' interface though. Maybe it's just because it's better than anything else I've used.
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I do think iTunes is indeed quite different, because
1. its iPOD relationship
2. its apple restricted content

all of these strengths are not existing in QT/Safari for win.

anyway, try SongBird under windows, thats the only thing i can think of, for me, I usually just like simple small stuff like winamp, foorbar, etc.
 
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