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Willis

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Pretty much as the title says... I'm really stumped on this..

It's now the second time its done it. The first time I checked and verified permissions, verified the disk and it said that it needed to be repaired... Repaired it and all was well...

Try and clone its HD so I can do a clean install to get rid of 3 years of rubbish and big bits of software like VPC... it failed, froze, restarted, no ding... fully loads..

Im rather concerned. At the moment it works, as far as I can tell, perfectly... just no ding!!

Ideas?
 

puckhead193

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is the sound/speaker volume on mute? I don't think it effects the ding noise but i could be wrong. Does the ding noise come from a different speaker other then the ones on the sides
 

Willis

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1) speaker volume doesnt effect the Ding... its default to go on at startup... for some reason, it isnt..

2) no, havent reset PRAM.. doubt that would be a fix either
 

Willis

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reset the pram, it solves so many weird problem. Almost always is the fix.
besides its simple click power button and hold down option apple "p" and "r"

yeah I know it can... but... this?! I will give it a shot... at the moment I'm trying to clone the drive again... but I'm not going to touch the damn thing this time!
 

mad jew

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1) speaker volume doesnt effect the Ding... its default to go on at startup... for some reason, it isnt..


Yes it does. Mute your sound and restart to test it, maybe on another machine though. :p

With the disk repair, did you continue running it 'til it made no changes? Running it once sometimes doesn't suffice.
 

Willis

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Yes it does. Mute your sound and restart to test it, maybe on another machine though. :p

With the disk repair, did you continue running it 'til it made no changes? Running it once sometimes doesn't suffice.

It doesnt... I tried that years ago out of curiousity... also, I know the sound isnt muted because it was making noises when I tried to click on anything.

I ran it until it said 'Disk repaired'

I've already done another Verify, and its said its fine, as did Onyx
 

deadpixels

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people have been trying, unsuccessfully, to get rid of / change the startup sound in macs for years, you should be happy!!
anyway, repair permissions and delete the "com.apple.Powermanagement.plist" located in HD/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration folder
 

Willis

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Okay, so are you saying the machine is otherwise fine, but it's not giving you POST feedback?

as far as I can tell... its fine... but not hearing that Ding is worrying... Its as if its a sign... no ding, something bad gonna happen..

thanks for the advice though guys
 

IJ Reilly

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The startup sound has nothing to do with the OS. It's built into Open Firmware. You could have no hard drive installed, and you will still hear the startup sound. Are you getting sound when the computer is booted?
 

Willis

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no ding, yet was booting fine...

Anyway, it cloned fine... and afterwards, Ding-ed as usual...

I did however reset the PRAM, and when I did, the Ding was slightly quieter than the first... *shrug* either way, the HDD is getting nuked for a clean install
 

Sopranino

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The startup chime is sounded if everything on the pre-boot check is fine, no chime means that there is a problem. You indicate that you are running a PowerBook, one of the most common failures on certain models of PBs is for the lower memory slot to quit. (Happened to mine) Everything will still boot and work fine but you will only be running on whatever size of memory stick is in the upper slot. I suggest that you click on the Apple icon (upper left of the screen) and then click on 'About this Mac', this will pop up a little window that tells you two main items, the speed of your processor and the amount of memory installed. If the amount of memory showing as installed is less than what you know you have then chances are one of your memory slots has died.

Post back with your results.

Sopranino
 

IJ Reilly

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no ding, yet was booting fine...

Anyway, it cloned fine... and afterwards, Ding-ed as usual...

I did however reset the PRAM, and when I did, the Ding was slightly quieter than the first... *shrug* either way, the HDD is getting nuked for a clean install

Nooooo! How many times do you need to hear that the startup sound has nothing to do with software? That's nothing, as in nothing!
 

mad jew

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Test it if you don't believe me, but the mute keys on a Mac's keyboard can indeed mute the POST. This has not always been the case, but is certainly applicable in 10.4.9.
 

IJ Reilly

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Pre-OSX, the POST sound volume could be set along with the system volume. Since OSX, I've never had much luck changing it, but I haven't tried recently either.
 
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