No Airdisk (Airport) Time Machine Backups!

Diatribe · Oct 25, 2007, 06:44 AM

As the title says Apple took out Time Machine Backups via Airdisk (AEBS).

While I think the way it has been running for some people this makes sense, they should have never marketed that feature. I bet there are around 30-40% of new AEBS owners out there that bought it for exactly that feature tat now are going to be pissed.

I for one hope they fix the problems and bring it back, but only time will tell I guess.

D1G1T4L · Oct 25, 2007, 06:48 AM

Maybe once the firmware is fixed they will roll out support.

JSpence · Oct 25, 2007, 06:50 AM

I'm disappointed. This was honestly one of the things I was hoping for most! I'm a lappy user, AirDisk support would've just been ideal. Wahhh

yetanotherdave · Oct 25, 2007, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diatribe

I bet there are around 30-40% of new AEBS owners out there that bought it for exactly that feature tat now are going to be pissed.

I was almost one of them, but my cars starter motor burning out left me lacking in money, so I held off. Glad I did now, but it will be a real pain to remember to attatch my disk to the lappy regulary!

saxman · Oct 25, 2007, 07:10 AM

Well that's bad news for lots of people - especially mobile users. I'm beginning to wonder if Apple bit of more than they could chew with the AEBS disk feature. Must be harder than they thought

superleccy · Oct 25, 2007, 07:16 AM

Actually I'm not surprised. I've heard anecdotal evidence that the read/write speed of Airdisk is rather on the slow side. I wonder if trying to implement Time Machine over AirDisk would just be too slow... or worse, actually slow down your Mac.

I've not bought a new Airport Extreme yet anyway because I'm waiting for them to add AirTunes.

SL

Tygernoot · Oct 25, 2007, 08:14 AM

I'm probably going to say something stupid, but I need to know

.

Do you mean by Airport Disk that it's a HD connected to the Airport Extreme basestation, and that's it's impossible (for now) to create Time Machine backups to that drive even if you are connected through the 1GBit ethernet?

I have three macs at home and wanted to replace my current router by the Airport Extreme, so I can use gigabit ethernet and have one central HD where all Time Machine backups would go.

As long as that isn't possible I see no point in buying the Airport Extreme basestation.

zen · Oct 25, 2007, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tygernoot

I'm probably going to say something stupid, but I need to know

.

Do you mean by Airport Disk that it's a HD connected to the Airport Extreme basestation, and that's it's impossible (for now) to create Time Machine backups to that drive even if you are connected through the 1GBit ethernet?

I have three macs at home and wanted to replace my current router by the Airport Extreme, so I can use gigabit ethernet and have one central HD where all Time Machine backups would go.

As long as that isn't possible I see no point in buying the Airport Extreme basestation.

Correct. And that's why I was about to buy an Airport Extreme Basestation too, as we have two laptops and an iMac, and backing up the portables to a plug-in external HDD is going to be TEDIOUS.

Dropped a big one there Apple!

Le Big Mac · Oct 25, 2007, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by zen

Dropped a big one there Apple!

For now, at least.

I have this feeling that Time Machine will at some point (a year?) be revolutionary and one of those "every one needs it" programs that Microsoft will integrate into the next version of windows.

But, in the meantime it's going to take some work to work out kinks and get it running smoothly in a way that's convenient for all users.

Nuc · Oct 25, 2007, 09:21 AM

I've found using the airport disk to be very slow even when at home and away from home. Hopefully they will fix this in the future...

Nuc

twoodcc · Oct 25, 2007, 09:42 AM

i'm surprised that they changed their minds....hopefully they'll bring the support later

DoreanGrae · Oct 25, 2007, 10:01 AM

Yeah this does really suck, as it's ideal for laptop users. It has to be a performance issue, because by all accounts it was working in previous developer betas. Knowing Steve, if it isn't fast enough or cool enough, it ain't shipping.

They must add this later tough. Too many people were banking on it for TM use for them to not. I expect it in 10.5.1.

wwooden · Oct 25, 2007, 10:06 AM

Wow, this is a big blow. I bought the AEBS just for this reason, not sure what we are going to do now. I can understand it taking a long time to update the first time, but after that, it should be invisible, I don't think most people are making huge changes per hour. This is a real shame.

DoreanGrae · Oct 25, 2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wwooden

Wow, this is a big blow. I bought the AEBS just for this reason, not sure what we are going to do now. I can understand it taking a long time to update the first time, but after that, it should be invisible, I don't think most people are making huge changes per hour. This is a real shame.

Yeah. It'll be back, I'm sure. Probably soon.

DylanG · Oct 25, 2007, 10:11 AM

It's not just Airport disks. Time Machine can't backup to any network drives. This worked fine in earlier betas and is a huge disappointment for me.

DoreanGrae · Oct 25, 2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DylanG

It's not just Airport disks. Time Machine can't backup to any network drives. This worked fine in earlier betas and is a huge disappointment for me.

Not entirely true. It can backup to network drives, but they have to be running off of a Leopard-based system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apple.com

Time Machine can also back up to another Mac running Leopard with Personal File Sharing, Leopard Server, or Xsan storage devices.

D1G1T4L · Oct 25, 2007, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DylanG

It's not just Airport disks. Time Machine can't backup to any network drives. This worked fine in earlier betas and is a huge disappointment for me.

This includes NAS drives?

DylanG · Oct 25, 2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DoreanGrae

Not entirely true. It can backup to network drives, but they have to be running off of a Leopard-based system.

Sorry, my mistake. The beta could back up to a Tiger share and I assumed support for network drives had been removed altogether when I couldn't do that now.

FJ218700 · Oct 25, 2007, 10:16 AM

bummer dude, I was planning on picking up an AEB with Leopard for this very reason. Apple just lost $160.

DoreanGrae · Oct 25, 2007, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FJ218700

bummer dude, I was planning on picking up an AEB with Leopard for this very reason. Apple just lost $160.

They'll get that $160 one way or another.

D1G1T4L · Oct 25, 2007, 10:17 AM

Interested to see someone with a ReadyNAS NV+ try and see if they are able to use it with Time Machine.

DoreanGrae · Oct 25, 2007, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DylanG

Sorry, my mistake. The beta could back up to a Tiger share and I assumed support for network drives had been removed altogether when I couldn't do that now.

Easy mistake to make. I'm sure for those people out there who have Leopard right now, not many of them have access to another computer running Leopard to try this out, and thus think it doesn't work at all. Quite understandable.

FJ218700 · Oct 25, 2007, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoreanGrae

They'll get that $160 one way or another.

they're already gotten 10x that over the years. I should qualify for a free one or something

DoreanGrae · Oct 25, 2007, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FJ218700

they're already gotten 10x that over the years. I should qualify for a free one or something

How about free shipping at the online store?

PhatBoyG · Oct 25, 2007, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoreanGrae

They'll get that $160 one way or another.

Or they'll get your $1600 when you buy a new Al iMac and a 1TB USB drive.

Oct 25, 2007, 06:44 AM	#1
Diatribe macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Costa Rica (yes, I moved)	No Airdisk (Airport) Time Machine Backups! As the title says Apple took out Time Machine Backups via Airdisk (AEBS). While I think the way it has been running for some people this makes sense, they should have never marketed that feature. I bet there are around 30-40% of new AEBS owners out there that bought it for exactly that feature tat now are going to be pissed. I for one hope they fix the problems and bring it back, but only time will tell I guess. __________________ Knowledge - fueled by curiosity Mac Beginner's Guide \| My Adium Xtras

Oct 25, 2007, 06:48 AM	#2
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Oct 25, 2007, 06:50 AM	#3
JSpence macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orlando, FL	I'm disappointed. This was honestly one of the things I was hoping for most! I'm a lappy user, AirDisk support would've just been ideal. Wahhh __________________ l SR MB l 4GB l 2.2GHz l 120GB HD l Think Different

Oct 25, 2007, 07:16 AM	#6
superleccy macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: England	Actually I'm not surprised. I've heard anecdotal evidence that the read/write speed of Airdisk is rather on the slow side. I wonder if trying to implement Time Machine over AirDisk would just be too slow... or worse, actually slow down your Mac. I've not bought a new Airport Extreme yet anyway because I'm waiting for them to add AirTunes. SL __________________ 15" MBP: 2.4GHz C2D SR; now 4GB RAM; 160GB 5400rpm HD; Matte; 20" Cinema Disp. 14" iBook G4: 1.33GHz; 768MB RAM; 80GB HD. Switched Nov '04.

Oct 25, 2007, 08:14 AM	#7
Tygernoot macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2003	I'm probably going to say something stupid, but I need to know . Do you mean by Airport Disk that it's a HD connected to the Airport Extreme basestation, and that's it's impossible (for now) to create Time Machine backups to that drive even if you are connected through the 1GBit ethernet? I have three macs at home and wanted to replace my current router by the Airport Extreme, so I can use gigabit ethernet and have one central HD where all Time Machine backups would go. As long as that isn't possible I see no point in buying the Airport Extreme basestation. __________________ Always look on the bright side of life.

Oct 25, 2007, 07:10 AM	#5
saxman macrumors 6502 Join Date: May 2004	Well that's bad news for lots of people - especially mobile users. I'm beginning to wonder if Apple bit of more than they could chew with the AEBS disk feature. Must be harder than they thought

Oct 25, 2007, 09:21 AM	#10
Nuc macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NC	I've found using the airport disk to be very slow even when at home and away from home. Hopefully they will fix this in the future... Nuc __________________ 17" MBP C2D iPod HP 4G 40GB Black iPod Nano 2GB & Nike+

Oct 25, 2007, 09:42 AM	#11
twoodcc macrumors 603 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Right side of wrong	i'm surprised that they changed their minds....hopefully they'll bring the support later __________________ tville pump Smarter than the average bear

Oct 25, 2007, 10:01 AM	#12
DoreanGrae macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York, NY	Yeah this does really suck, as it's ideal for laptop users. It has to be a performance issue, because by all accounts it was working in previous developer betas. Knowing Steve, if it isn't fast enough or cool enough, it ain't shipping. They must add this later tough. Too many people were banking on it for TM use for them to not. I expect it in 10.5.1. __________________ DoreanGrae 2.16 GHz MacBook Pro, 2 GB RAM 16GB iPhone 3G

Oct 25, 2007, 10:06 AM	#13
wwooden macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Colchester, VT	Wow, this is a big blow. I bought the AEBS just for this reason, not sure what we are going to do now. I can understand it taking a long time to update the first time, but after that, it should be invisible, I don't think most people are making huge changes per hour. This is a real shame. __________________ 20" Al iMac, 2.66GHz, 2gb RAM, 500gb HD; 2.4GHz BlackBook; iPhone 3G 16gig Black; Nikon D50; 40gig AppleTV; 60gig iPod Video; 40gig PS3 - wwooden

Oct 25, 2007, 10:11 AM	#15
DylanG macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2007	It's not just Airport disks. Time Machine can't backup to any network drives. This worked fine in earlier betas and is a huge disappointment for me.

Oct 25, 2007, 10:16 AM	#19
FJ218700 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Blue Dot, Red State	bummer dude, I was planning on picking up an AEB with Leopard for this very reason. Apple just lost $160. __________________ Lab: 3.0 ghz octo MP Mobile: 1.33 ghz 12' PB twitter.com/Dr_H twitter.com/TapeSlave

Oct 25, 2007, 10:17 AM	#21
D1G1T4L macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC	Interested to see someone with a ReadyNAS NV+ try and see if they are able to use it with Time Machine. __________________ Macbook Pro 15"\|2.8GHz\|4GB Ram\|500GB HD 32GB iPhone 16GB Nano TV

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