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masterpace

macrumors regular
Mar 24, 2008
129
11
Montreal
Works quite well under OSX... what about Boot Camp?

Hey guys,

I've bought the CoolBook and it works quite well. My laptop remains quite cool now and stutterings seem to have decreased a lot.

However, I'm using Boot Camp (Windows XP) a lot. It seems like the the CPU settings (undervolt) are not carried over when booting in Windows. Is there any similar way to undervolt the CPU in Windows? Thanks in advance!
 

isdereks

macrumors newbie
Mar 17, 2008
20
0
However, I'm using Boot Camp (Windows XP) a lot. It seems like the the CPU settings (undervolt) are not carried over when booting in Windows. Is there any similar way to undervolt the CPU in Windows? Thanks in advance!

Re-read this comment:

But one more point I thought of: CoolBook's tuning is done by a kernel extension and a daemon called CoolBookSwitcher. These start after the mach kernel and the core extensions boot, so when the machine is turned on it's running it's factory default settings until then.

CoolBook applies the new settings after boot from within OS X.
 

masterpace

macrumors regular
Mar 24, 2008
129
11
Montreal
Any similar solution for Windows?

Hmm, that's what I could understand: CoolBook works during OSX startup so it doesn't work under Windows (via Boot Camp). Is there a similar way to undervolt the CPU under Windows?
 

duffyanneal

macrumors 6502a
Feb 5, 2008
681
108
ATL
So the need for this explains why my Air is sometimes slower in some everyday officey-duties than my 10-hour-battery, same-weight TZ?

If your MBA is slowing down doing basic office apps then you have issues that require more than software. :rolleyes:
 

mac jones

macrumors 68040
Apr 6, 2006
3,257
2
wow! this seems to work really well, sort of unbelievable.

After i regisitered, the default was just 800MHZ ,only , so I figured I'd try that for a while.

I fired up VMware and it is running fine. Thing is, the temps and fan have stayed the same (52C and 2400rpm)

before Coolbook the whole system would tax out.

Amazing! This may actually be the solution to our thermal problems.

Of course, I JUST installed it like 5 minutes ago so it's a bit early :D

I'd like to thank the person who posted this. Really is nice going.

Note: I'm not undervolting anything, I'm just running it at 800Mhz max with medium throttle. As the original poster said, at 800MHZ it runs ok. But this is not supprising as I have a Samsung Q1U that runs at 800MHZ max , and it's fine with XP. But Vista will not run well at all at that speed no matter the RAM installed.

Anyway,there's all sorts of combinations, this is the first one i've tried and it is working very well indeed.

I'm dying to hear other's experiences with this....should be interesting.
 

Sesshi

macrumors G3
Jun 3, 2006
8,113
1
One Nation Under Gordon
If your MBA is slowing down doing basic office apps then you have issues that require more than software. :rolleyes:

Well - obviously the Sony might be doing the usual stuff which gives me no problems under Vista, such as playing back a video podcast at half size while I type. By no means is my normal use just cranking up Word (although interestingly this is also faster on even my slowest SSD'd Vista notebook).
 

dyerucf

macrumors regular
Jan 15, 2008
159
3
Alpharetta, GA
cant install

Any one have any difficulty installing the program? It prompts me for an install of a subcomponent but it doesnt seem to work. The program starts but I dont have any options, just blank fields.

any ideas?
 

isdereks

macrumors newbie
Mar 17, 2008
20
0
Coincidence...maybe? But I tweaked the voltage settings and now Photo Booth no longer runs stating that the onboard graphics card does not support the application.
 

RedTomato

macrumors 601
Mar 4, 2005
4,155
442
.. London ..
Nice app - first I've seen of doing this on a mac laptop.

I'm interested in running this on my MacBook solely to extend battery life. I'm not interested in heat reduction or fan reduction, except as side-issues of extending battery life.

Has anybody got any figures on how much this extends battery life? 20-30% could mean an extra hour.
 

BrianKonarsMac

macrumors 65816
Apr 28, 2004
1,102
83
interesting idea. So you can lower the voltage to the processor to make it run cooler while still maintaining the same performance or did I read this wrong? If so...could I do this to my PowerBook G4 12"? :D
 

applestew

macrumors member
Jan 12, 2008
46
0
Very good results!

I registered a version of coolbook and applied the settings given by the threadstarter. My temps plunged. MBA was able to throttle up to do heavy tasks. Tried youtube for 10 mins, no stuttering :) But then again, my week 6 had just a few episodes of stuttering with youtube, not always.

OK... questions.

1. How come the settings on the menu bar are grayed out? I want to display other stuff besides the temp.

2. When I reg coolbook, only the 800MHz setting came up. I inpu tthe rest of them. When I want to get rid of the settings and return to default, there is no "default" option. Anyone know the default values?

A Great find!
 

illian

macrumors regular
Jan 13, 2008
228
0
Porsche-City, Germany
Well - obviously the Sony might be doing the usual stuff which gives me no problems under Vista, such as playing back a video podcast at half size while I type. By no means is my normal use just cranking up Word (although interestingly this is also faster on even my slowest SSD'd Vista notebook).

i have no problems with playing back a video...and word mac is slower as the word pc version. (opening word on a macbook and air takes the same time!!)
i had the dell xps m1330..by all means the air does not feel any slower in doing usual stuff!!
why not sell your air...solves all your problems lol
 

masterpace

macrumors regular
Mar 24, 2008
129
11
Montreal
Still no tool for Boot Camp (Win XP)?

Hi again! CoolBook is a great tool for Mac OS X. Now, what about Windows (through Boot Camp)? I'm trying to find a similar tool to under Windows XP?

Indeed, I've installed a few old (4-5 years old) games on My Boot Camp partition. Most of them are stuttering badly randomly. It seems like the CPU is hotter (around 75 C) but not that much either. Surprisingly, some games can run smooth for a few minutes before experiencing a sudden stutter. Any explanation? Would the X3100 throttle as well?
 

Adam Ierymenko

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Mar 7, 2008
21
0
Very good results!

I registered a version of coolbook and applied the settings given by the threadstarter. My temps plunged. MBA was able to throttle up to do heavy tasks. Tried youtube for 10 mins, no stuttering :) But then again, my week 6 had just a few episodes of stuttering with youtube, not always.

OK... questions.

1. How come the settings on the menu bar are grayed out? I want to display other stuff besides the temp.

2. When I reg coolbook, only the 800MHz setting came up. I inpu tthe rest of them. When I want to get rid of the settings and return to default, there is no "default" option. Anyone know the default values?

A Great find!

There's a "default" button on mine, and clicking it brings up the default values... weird. But yeah, the UI is absolutely awful. Good thing you only really have to use it until you get the settings right.

BTW, I refined mine a little and was able to drop some of the voltages just a tiny little bit. I also added a 600mhz setting for battery.
 

AstroHouse

macrumors member
Mar 20, 2008
91
0
Morada CA
What a great utility. I installed it this morning and have been tinkering all day.
Easy to use and with CPUtest it is easy to test the settings.

The UI does leave much to be desired. For 10 bucks I am not going to do a lot of complaining. The people who write these great little programs deserve or support without criticism.

I am interested in the feedback of other users. Keep the posts coming!
 

DavidFL

macrumors member
Mar 25, 2008
43
0
Thank You!!

I've been reading these forums for a while now but felt compelled to submit my first post.

Thank you! I did as you suggested and got the CoolBook software. I played around with it and the settings for a while (you are right...horrible interface...not intuitive....print out the manual before attempting to change your settings).

Amazingly (I guess) my MBA is now running fine with all of the clock speeds set at .9000V. No panics, no crashes....

RUNS MUCH COOLER!!
NO STUTTERING VIDEO!!
NO CORE SHUTDOWNS!!

Try it...you'll like it.

Thanks again for the work you did to come up with this solution. I will now NOT return my MBA, as I had been contemplating.
 

spacecadet610

macrumors 6502
Mar 11, 2006
389
4
wow cool i used to do this on my old amd athlon processor with great results. didn't know there was a program for the mac
 

Stratus Fear

macrumors 6502a
Jan 21, 2008
688
417
Atlanta, GA
Amazingly (I guess) my MBA is now running fine with all of the clock speeds set at .9000V. No panics, no crashes....

I'm surprised you managed to get it down to .9v on all levels. I had to set 1.6 @ .9125 and 1.8 @ .925 else my machine would KP when it heated up past 70. At these settings though, and a few short tests, it seems stable. I'll have to run more to see what happens, though, since there could be some intensive things that could cause it to bite the dust easily.
 

ayeying

macrumors 601
Dec 5, 2007
4,547
13
Yay Area, CA
I've been reading these forums for a while now but felt compelled to submit my first post.

Thank you! I did as you suggested and got the CoolBook software. I played around with it and the settings for a while (you are right...horrible interface...not intuitive....print out the manual before attempting to change your settings).

Amazingly (I guess) my MBA is now running fine with all of the clock speeds set at .9000V. No panics, no crashes....

RUNS MUCH COOLER!!
NO STUTTERING VIDEO!!
NO CORE SHUTDOWNS!!

Try it...you'll like it.

Thanks again for the work you did to come up with this solution. I will now NOT return my MBA, as I had been contemplating.

Wow. Thats amazing. I'm using 0.9Volts for all 600MHz to 1600MHz and it runs stable with no crashes. I'll leave a load test on tonight but so far, its amazing.
 

ayeying

macrumors 601
Dec 5, 2007
4,547
13
Yay Area, CA
Hi again! CoolBook is a great tool for Mac OS X. Now, what about Windows (through Boot Camp)? I'm trying to find a similar tool to under Windows XP?

Indeed, I've installed a few old (4-5 years old) games on My Boot Camp partition. Most of them are stuttering badly randomly. It seems like the CPU is hotter (around 75 C) but not that much either. Surprisingly, some games can run smooth for a few minutes before experiencing a sudden stutter. Any explanation? Would the X3100 throttle as well?

RMClock is the windows alternative. Its mentioned in several of these posts if you bothered to read them.

Video card won't be throttled since its not the same chip as the CPU.
 

isdereks

macrumors newbie
Mar 17, 2008
20
0
Coincidence...maybe? But I tweaked the voltage settings and now Photo Booth no longer runs stating that the onboard graphics card does not support the application.

Ok, after returning the settings to their default rather than the settings mentioned in the OP, Photo Booth began to work again.

Just an FYI.
 

Thomi

macrumors member
Jan 30, 2008
51
0
Before I am loading this app, can anyone please confirm that it enables our MBAs to run youtube videos for a longer period on low fan speed around 2500rpm?
And second question: let’s suppose a task like watching flash or quicktime videos takes about 40 to 50 percent of cpu load at 1.6GHz. Will we be able to run this task on a “cooler level” when the unit is just manually set to .8 or 1.2GHz? I am still a bit afraid of doing this undervolting thing, but just lowering the cpu speed should definitely be a no risk, should it? Thanks!!
 
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