Those were my thoughts when I tried using a friends iTouch after using iPhone for more then a year! Especially pain in the ass when U r in transit or when its cold when U prefer ur hands tucked in!
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Those were my thoughts when I tried using a friends iTouch after using iPhone for more then a year! Especially pain in the ass when U r in transit or when its cold when U prefer ur hands tucked in!
Did anyone else notice that the Broadcom bluetooth chip is also an FM receiver. Does that mean a radio will also be included in next update?
Look at this link and it suggests that a2dp is supported, provided this is the same chip.
http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/4325-PB00-R.pdf
Look at this link and it suggests that a2dp is supported, provided this is the same chip.
http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/4325-PB00-R.pdf
Bluetooth, Wifi, Fm Transciever?
Has anyone noticed here that if you look up "broadcom bcm4325 bluetooth chip" on google search it comes up showing that it does bluetooth, wifi, and an fm transciever? I think this may lead to future software updates allowing the radio on ipod touch!
Has anyone noticed here that if you look up "broadcom bcm4325 bluetooth chip" on google search it comes up showing that it does bluetooth, wifi, and an fm transciever? I think this may lead to future software updates allowing the radio on ipod touch!
Blessing in disguise
If Nike+ is not using the Bluetooth chip which is inside the new iTouch means that Apple will activate the Bluetooth chip later thru a s/w update and we might be able to use this for bluetooth file transfer.....
If they enable this for iTouch then I can see it coming to my iPhone too
Did I not CALL IT.
Over in the "no Nike+ on iPhone" thread, I asked what could be so proprietary about a 2.4Ghz digital signal, hardware wise.
A somewhat proprietary signal over standard hardware was more likely, and now appears to be the case. It may not even be that proprietary, Nike+ may just be hard-coded pairing between dongle and sensor (or all dongles and all sensors, but not other devices), and now iPod Touch firmware, rather than variable pairing of bluetooth devices. And maybe the firmware for the iPod touch denies other pairing and visual indication.
The hardware between the iPhone and iPod touch is not that different, save cellular systems, and that makes sense for manufacturing, design, software, and other reasons.
Now, just bring on the firmware to activate the A2DP bluetooth on iPod Touch, and also to engage it fully on the iPhone, allowing both Nike+, AND stereo bluetooth audio playback.
Come on, Apple. Take a page from Nike, and DO IT!
Over in the "no Nike+ on iPhone" thread, I asked what could be so proprietary about a 2.4Ghz digital signal, hardware wise.
A somewhat proprietary signal over standard hardware was more likely, and now appears to be the case. It may not even be that proprietary, Nike+ may just be hard-coded pairing between dongle and sensor (or all dongles and all sensors, but not other devices), and now iPod Touch firmware, rather than variable pairing of bluetooth devices. And maybe the firmware for the iPod touch denies other pairing and visual indication.
The hardware between the iPhone and iPod touch is not that different, save cellular systems, and that makes sense for manufacturing, design, software, and other reasons.
Now, just bring on the firmware to activate the A2DP bluetooth on iPod Touch, and also to engage it fully on the iPhone, allowing both Nike+, AND stereo bluetooth audio playback.
Come on, Apple. Take a page from Nike, and DO IT!
I hope so. I sometimes want to listen to the radio or just get the news while i';m on the go early in the morning
Blessing in disguise
If Nike+ is not using the Bluetooth chip which is inside the new iTouch means that Apple will activate the Bluetooth chip later thru a s/w update and we might be able to use this for bluetooth file transfer.....
If they enable this for iTouch then I can see it coming to my iPhone too
what about wi-fi music sharing? Share music with other ipod touch owners?
Naw, cue all the complainers who still think everything announced can magically appear on the older models via a free firmware upgrade...
Hey!
Reading that broadcom PDF, reveals that it can do AES/TKIP encryption on chip (hardware accelerated). That is great! Less battery draw and smoother performance on web based apps , get to offload the arm processor for better things, like loading omnifocous! lol
Reading that broadcom PDF, reveals that it can do AES/TKIP encryption on chip (hardware accelerated). That is great! Less battery draw and smoother performance on web based apps
, get to offload the arm processor for better things, like loading omnifocous! lol
If you download the user guides for the new Nano and Touch from Apple http://support.apple.com/manuals/#ipod you will see in the Nano one there are 4 separate entries regarding the microphone and voice recording, in the user guide for the touch there is ZERO information regarding a mic or voice recording or anything similar... very odd if this IS a new feature!
Wud be damn good to see that.... but will like to see iTouch and iPhone score some battery points before iTouch/iPhone go full out WiFi....
Or else I will be charging my iPhone more often then using the darn thing! We need a major break through in the battery technology and charging technology.... thats the bottle neck going forward!
bluetooth chip + bluetooth GPS receiver dongle = GPS ... that's awesome, just need an app that allows downloading/storing of the maps to the file system and the app to read them from the blue dongle cords.
This is currently implemented on many phones this way...
This is currently implemented on many phones this way...
Gotta agree with you.
Apple would rather gimp a feature than create too much diversity within a product line.
It doesn't make sense to put a proprietary chip in there just for some over priced jogging shoe accessory. They just include bluetooth for the Nike crap and gimp it. It's one of the disadvantages to a closed system. This sounds like Verizon and their bluetooth fiasco. "Sure it has bluetooth, but you can only use it how we say you can use it"
The entries for 4th Gen Nano are under Voice Memos Recording. This feature has been present even in the 3rd gen Nano.... Hvnt checked 2nd Gens Manual yet.
As you know, functionality (native apps) like these for iTouch would require a more thorough development and testing then the non-Touch iPods. Therefore I guess we will see the voice recording feature trickle to iTouch/iPhone at a later date or may be even tom via software update....
We have the information re the exact number of connector contacts for iTouch and iPhone then we can nail down the compatibility of all features(incl volume control) for iTouch as well as iPhone.
If Nike+ is not using the Bluetooth chip which is inside the new iTouch means that Apple will activate the Bluetooth chip later thru a s/w update and we might be able to use this for bluetooth file transfer..... If they enable this for iTouch then I can see it coming to my iPhone too
I sure hope you're right. Otherwise, what a waste of space and technology inside the device.
This blows... I submitted this.. No credit? Gee, thanks Arn? I will be sure to be your servant sometime soon again...
the new touch can have up to 36 hours of audio battery life....... 6 for video. could be better, 40 hours for audio and 12 for video ...
USER REPLACEABLE BATTERYS!
Hmmm.....
Just means that we're gonna get Nike+ support pretty soon and some other bluetooth features as well if Apple decides to publicly unveil the feature set.... maybe WiFi sharing b/w iPhones and iPods Touch like in the Zune!
As for the FM... no antenna is present (citation req) and more importantly.... no Interest by Apple! So if the antenna is present then maybe a basbeband firmware change (jailbreaking) might be able to activate the feature if Broadcom already doesnt sell the product to Apple with the FM transceiver locked out!
Just means that we're gonna get Nike+ support pretty soon and some other bluetooth features as well if Apple decides to publicly unveil the feature set.... maybe WiFi sharing b/w iPhones and iPods Touch like in the Zune!
As for the FM... no antenna is present (citation req) and more importantly.... no Interest by Apple! So if the antenna is present then maybe a basbeband firmware change (jailbreaking) might be able to activate the feature if Broadcom already doesnt sell the product to Apple with the FM transceiver locked out!
This blows... I submitted this.. No credit? Gee, thanks Arn? I will be sure to be your servant sometime soon again...
Sorry gregdrummeraz,
The iFixit guy im'd me at the same time. But you were the first submission for it. fixed.
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