I hate what the internets have become. Can we start over? Will you help me?

[Apple Genius]

I'm branching off from the thread "Ads are killing the internet!!!!" in an attempt to revolutionize the way we surf.

Commemorating the old phrase: "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem": That said, we're all responsible for abusing and not protecting the internet. Alas, I'm fed up. I'm want to do something about it and I've got an idea...

These days, they're making it easier for everyone to get online whereas back in the old days, you had to be somewhat intelligent to operate a computer and dial-in. Now, they're just giving internet ready laptops to every elementary school student, every employee and every housewife... (God, I wish we could keep them offline.) These people are so clueless: "HERE, USE THIS FREE TEMPLATE!" and boom- they're pumping tons of spam into our internets. And for what?! Because they're too damn lazy and unimaginative to create something of their own.

And you know what's worse?
The double edged sword is that this same influx of idiots has also given birth to/and fuels the mass media's presence on the internet. The TV guys just followed them from the couch to the desk. They're here because they know these zombies will eat every crumb they throw them.

Honestly, I'm so alone in this world... I go over to my friend's houses and they've got magazines lying about, the TV's on in the background flashing images of Coca-Cola while the YouTube machine is on full blast. It's like a parallel universe to me. The little boys got Playstations and the girls got Hannah Montana. They're financing a car they'll never pay off, but they've got to... they MUST... HAVE... HIGH SPEED... INT4RN3TS!

All the while, I'm just standing here in awe of this massive power, at the mercy of this Godly house of spam and my old IT buddy turns around in his swivel chair: "Hey, bro, wanna Bud? Check out this video of Kayane West at the VMA's..."

Kayane who? VM what?

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" How did they get to him? 10 years ago, we literally threw our TV out of our dorm room window and burned our magazines and pledged to never buy into American politics or celebrity gossip. They got him through the interw3bs and now they're coming after me! It's a goddamn zoo out there. It's a complete slap in the face when a website tells you to disable Adblock Plus so they can feed you slavery in exchange to view their content.

I'm tired of it.
Day in and day out, people just mindlessly talk endlessly about this garbage, whilst working their 9-5 jobs, whilst burying themselves in debt. That's not me. That's not what I want to be and I'm not interested in a new SUV. What's worse is that companies we're already paying money are blatantly spamming us.

I'm sick of it.
The internet is fueled by ads, but does it have to be that way? Can we just do away with the ads altogether and pay a monthly premium?

I know there's probably a thousand reasons why this wouldn't work, but the current internet doesn't work either. I'm not talking about reinventing this internet- they can keep their wasteland- I'm talking about creating a completely separate internet and ditching HTTP all together.

I think this concept has the potential to hit big like the App Store. If companies (like say eBay) wanted to be a part of it, they would have to make a version of their website that abides to a set of standards.

To me, the ability to to search for information without spam, without multiple results of the same article, without Winamp generated playlists, without online contests... That's priceless. I for one, would gladly pay $10 a month for an ad-free internet, enriched with useful content. There's so much garbage out there. Take Google's Image search for instance- it's complete mayhem. Type in a word and you get results of something entirely different. I could go on for hours about all the stuff that could just simply not be there.


DISCUSS

[macfan881]

ummmm I think you need to step away from the computer and take a serious chill pill.

[belvdr]

Originally Posted by Apple Genius

<rant full of half-witted ideas>

You're not as smart as you think you are. You haven't got a clue what the Internet actually comprises or how HTTP/S relates to it. Yet, somehow you've correlated Internet activity to debt. And your language is a bit over the top.

[mkrishnan]

Winamp generated playlists?

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Originally Posted by belvdr

You're not as smart as you think you are. You haven't got a clue what the Internet actually comprises or how HTTP/S relates to it. Yet, somehow you've correlated Internet activity to debt. And your language is a bit over the top.

Here comes the guy who spits out meaningless "smart talk" for no reason. HTTP and HTTPS have nothing to do with the OP's points. Why would you call him out for not knowing them?

[belvdr]

Originally Posted by TuffLuffJimmy

Here comes the guy who spits out meaningless "smart talk" for no reason. HTTP and HTTPS have nothing to do with the OP's points. Why would you call him out for not knowing them?

Why are you being so rude anyway? The OP specifically stated:

Originally Posted by Apple Genius

I'm talking about creating a completely separate internet and ditching HTTP all together.

That's why I called him out on it. Check the facts first, then reply.

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Originally Posted by belvdr

Had you taken the time to actually read what the OP posted, you would have seen this:



That's why I called him out on it.

Well he's right. Logistically, if we created an all new infrastructure (next to impossible to get it widespread) we could ditch HTTP.

[belvdr]

Originally Posted by TuffLuffJimmy

Well he's right. Logistically, if we created an all new infrastructure (next to impossible to get it widespread) we could ditch HTTP.

So by virtue of this new protocol, ads would be stopped and no spam would occur? That makes no sense, unless we all go back to using Lynx so you can't see images. Also email is delivered over SMTP, not HTTP, so it wouldn't stop that either.

[Apple Genius]

Originally Posted by belvdr

You're not as smart as you think you are. You haven't got a clue what the Internet actually comprises or how HTTP/S relates to it. Yet, somehow you've correlated Internet activity to debt. And your language is a bit over the top.

Well spoken.

Next.

[belvdr]

Originally Posted by Apple Genius

Well spoken.

Discussion over.

Fixed.

[Sun Baked]

Ads are easier to block than half-wits.

[belvdr]

Originally Posted by Sun Baked

Ads are easier to block than half-wits.

Yeah, maybe I was a little harsh there. I apologize, Apple Genius.

[Bennieboy©]

if you dont like what the internet has become, turn your computer off, unplug your router and take a axe to it, then find something more fulfilling to spend your time doing

[Apple Genius]

I'm looking for brilliant thinkers. Positive people with a can-do attitude.
There is no point of your existence in this discussion if you're the type that say "Noo Internets? We don't want any!".

I'm doing this. And it's going to be huge. No one is stopping me.

[carlgo]

Originally Posted by Apple Genius

I'm looking for brilliant thinkers. Positive people with a can-do attitude.
There is no point of your existence in this discussion if you're the type that say "Noo Internets? We don't want any!".

I'm doing this. And it's going to be huge. No one is stopping me.

In time they will find you dead in the park, naked except for a tinfoil hat that you stole from a crazy person.

[stridemat]

Originally Posted by Apple Genius

I'm looking for brilliant thinkers. Positive people with a can-do attitude.
There is no point of your existence in this discussion if you're the type that say "Noo Internets? We don't want any!".

I'm doing this. And it's going to be huge. No one is stopping me.

I wish you all the luck in the world..

but I can't see it happening. The internet is here to stay for the foreseeable future. Too many people are making vast amounts of money from it, to let another 'Internet' take over.

[.Andy]

I like the animated gif.

[tkermit]

If you ask me, you seem to be fed up more with a specific concept of life whose dominance you lament, and less with the current state of the internet. I'm completely with you there, but it's not exactly a brand-new complaint…

(Your rant rephrased and repackaged into a summarized list: )

• tasteless content lacking imagination
• appearance of mass media of questionable quality
• Meaningless TV distraction
• being bombarded (partly willfully) with ads
• buying into commercial ideologies that only pretend to offer meaning
• unsound financing / debt
• over-the-top materialism
• boring jobs

[flopticalcube]

Surf with Firefox and use Adblock.

[belvdr]

Originally Posted by Apple Genius

I'm looking for brilliant thinkers. Positive people with a can-do attitude.
There is no point of your existence in this discussion if you're the type that say "Noo Internets? We don't want any!".

I'm doing this. And it's going to be huge. No one is stopping me.

You don't understand how the current Internet works, so how is this going to be huge?

[VirtualRain]

Originally Posted by Apple Genius

These days, they're making it easier for everyone to get online whereas back in the old days, you had to be somewhat intelligent to operate a computer and dial-in. Now, they're just giving internet ready laptops to every elementary school student, every employee and every housewife... (God, I wish we could keep them offline.) These people are so clueless: "HERE, USE THIS FREE TEMPLATE!" and boom- they're pumping tons of spam into our internets.

Are you the pot or the kettle?

[quantum003]

Well yeah, the Internet has become kind of gross. Since everyone has a voice, everyone gets to influence it's evolution and the semi-anonymity brings out the worst in people.

Internet2 is kind of like what you're describing a need for... a high-speed Internet reserved solely for government, medical, and academic use. Perhaps Internet3 would be the ticket? No ads, no trojans, just wisdom at $.50 an hour for access?

[AnimaLeo]

You say you hate the idea of excessive meterialism, yet your name is "Apple Genius" which implys that you own some mac products. Which pretty much makes you a meterialist haha. :/

[iPhone 62S]

Wanna block ads? Install ad blocker software. Don't like Kanye West? Don't watch videos of him.

How exactly do you expect ISPs to control ads on independent sites too? If I put Google ads on my site, will I start getting e-mails from ISPs telling me to take them down for certain IPs?

[Bimmi]

Yeah, I remember my first joint.