Register FAQ/Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Welcome to the Mac Forums forums. Please read the FAQ if you have questions. Register to participate.

 
Go Back   Mac Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors' Page 2 News Discussion
TouchArcade.com - iPhone Game Reviews and News

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Nov 24, 2009, 04:30 PM   #1
MacRumors
macrumors bot
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Apple Addresses 'Faces' Bugs and Other Minor Issues With iPhoto 8.1.1 Update



Apple today released iPhoto 8.1.1, an update to the photo management portion of the company's iLife suite of applications. The update addresses a pair of issues related to the "Faces" feature of iPhoto, including slow performance when displaying suggested matches and incorrect matching of faces. The update also fixes an issue with the book ordering panel not appearing correctly with some languages and corrects display of the second-generation iPod touch icon in iPhoto 's source list.
Quote:
This update addresses issues affecting face recognition performance and accuracy. It also fixes minor issues in the areas of book ordering, and iPod touch support.

The update is recommended for all users of iPhoto '09.

For detailed information on this update, please visit this website: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3941
The update weighs in at 12.5 MB is currently available via Software Update. The update should also soon be available via Apple's Support Downloads page.

Article Link: Apple Addresses 'Faces' Bugs and Other Minor Issues With iPhoto 8.1.1 Update
MacRumors is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2009, 04:38 PM   #2
dernhelm
macrumors 65816
 
dernhelm's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: middle earth
That's too funny. I tried using faces for the first time just the other day, but it just sat there spinning. No results. I figured something was broken and gave up.

Maybe I'll give it another whirl after this update.
__________________
Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind. --Terry Pratchett
dernhelm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2009, 04:50 PM   #3
aperez
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Connecticut
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7D11 Safari/528.16)

I was hoping they would fix the green or red screen that would appear when editing photos.
aperez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2009, 06:16 PM   #4
j33pd0g
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Central NY
Send a message via AIM to j33pd0g
I could never get faces to work in iPhoto. This update didn't make it work either. It's not that it matches poorly, it just doesn't turn up any matches at all.
__________________
2 x 2.26 GHz/10.5.8/6GB/Logic Pro 9/Shake 4.1/828mkII/Adam-A7's/DSL
j33pd0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2009, 06:29 PM   #5
tbrinkma
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
You've got to train it up a bit first. I had good luck with it from the beginning, but haven't added any photos in a while, so I can't say I've noticed an issue.
__________________
MacBook Pro 15" - 2.0GHz/1GB/100 GB
G4/450 "Sawtooth" - 512MB/30GB
iPod 5G Black 30GB
tbrinkma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2009, 06:52 PM   #6
j33pd0g
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Central NY
Send a message via AIM to j33pd0g
Quote:
Originally Posted by tbrinkma View Post
You've got to train it up a bit first. I had good luck with it from the beginning, but haven't added any photos in a while, so I can't say I've noticed an issue.
I'm reimporting my library now. It was a brand new mac, and new library to begin with. I'll manually supervise some faces and see what happens. Another part of the problem I was having was that I couldn't remove the faces on the cork board. Once they were up on there, I couldn't trash them in order to start over.
__________________
2 x 2.26 GHz/10.5.8/6GB/Logic Pro 9/Shake 4.1/828mkII/Adam-A7's/DSL
j33pd0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2009, 06:54 PM   #7
Compile 'em all
macrumors 68030
 
Compile 'em all's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: 127.0.0.1
Face bugs sounds funny
Compile 'em all is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2009, 07:06 PM   #8
gps
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Pay attention guys...

In the KB they says that you MUST rescan all the missing faces to clean the data you may have generated with a version prior to this one... Make sense.

Mine was working OK with all class of jpeg and png... with RAW a total failure. Their algorithms didn't support face detection in RAW at all...

I didn't try this one yet, I'll do that 2morrow...
__________________
MBP17 2.8 mid09 - 4Gb - 500Gb@7200rpm - follow me as gpy
gps is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2009, 07:17 PM   #9
Alan64
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
I just got my new iMac last week and loaded up a bunch of photos. I 'trained iPhoto's faces with about two dozen pictures of my wife and of me. It then pulled up hundreds with about a 96% success rate. I was pretty impressed. I still need to 'train' it on a few other friends and relatives to see how it does.

I'm also taking the time to enter some locations for travel pictures. I wish my Canon G5 had the GPS stamping so it'd be automatic.
Alan64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2009, 07:19 PM   #10
ccroo
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
What about looking at Photos over a network?

I used to be able to look at pics off an iPhoto Library on a networked computer. Now is it DEADLY slow, basically unusable.

Does this update address that?
ccroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2009, 07:52 PM   #11
Phazotron
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by aperez View Post
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7D11 Safari/528.16)

I was hoping they would fix the green or red screen that would appear when editing photos.
I was too. No luck here. It's strange, I can edit just fine but when I go try to go to full screen and do the same thing, red/green screen bizarreness.

Anyone know of good open source tools for photo editing? I know about GIMP, so I guess I'm really asking about photo management tools (open source).
__________________
=--==--==--==--==--=
Phazotron
2GHz Intel iMac | 1.5GHz G4 Powerbook | 900MHz G3 iBook
=--==--==--==--==--=
Phazotron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2009, 08:13 PM   #12
djgamble
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Faces identified a cut-out cardboard picture of Obama as being my VERY white friend...
It also identified my new-born baby as being both me and my wife's sister.

On the whole it's accurate, but it makes some pretty funny isolated mistakes
__________________
Advertise your web startup jobs here for free!
www.webstartupjobs.com
djgamble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2009, 09:30 PM   #13
completeidiot23
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
so many times it missed a face that is clearly there and looking at the camera, but yet it identifies a face in a bit of bark, or some grass, or a tv.
__________________
20" iMac (Mid 2007), 2GHz, 4GB Ram,
13.3" MacBook (Late 2009), 2.26GHz, 2GB Ram
16GB iPhone 3G
Emma Watson gives me a half blood prince
completeidiot23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2009, 11:14 PM   #14
tooz
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
well I had faces recognise a picture of (ogre) princess fiona as my sister
__________________
"The Zune, proof positive that Microsoft will never be as cool as Apple." - Iain Thompson (PC Authority)
tooz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 25, 2009, 01:44 AM   #15
dalvin200
macrumors 68030
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Nottingham, UK
From the Apple KB article

Quote:
Important: If you imported photos of people while using iPhoto 8.1, there's an extra step you should take after installing the 8.1.1 update. Select all those photos, Control-click to open the contextual menu, and then choose Detect Missing Faces. This will redetect the faces in those photos and correct any face recognition issues introduced in iPhoto 8.1. You should not quit iPhoto during the Detect Missing Faces process.
how the hell do you find out when you installed iPhoto 8.1??

I guess I would have to create a Smart Album using that date onwards and then re-scan for faces?
__________________
24" iMac "Penryn"; 2.8GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, 8800GS
I luuurrvvveee my iPhone 3G 16GB
Search before you post: MRoogle
dalvin200 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 25, 2009, 02:47 AM   #16
mrkgoo
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by dalvin200 View Post
From the Apple KB article



how the hell do you find out when you installed iPhoto 8.1??

I guess I would have to create a Smart Album using that date onwards and then re-scan for faces?
iPhoto 8.1 was released on August 18. I just selected all my photos since august and rescanned.

Not sure if that was right, but that's what I did. No need to create a smart album, just click on photos int eh sidebar (that's ALL photos), select the first photo you want, then scroll all the way to recent, hold shift + select the latest then right click and detect missing faces.
mrkgoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 25, 2009, 02:57 AM   #17
dalvin200
macrumors 68030
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Nottingham, UK
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrkgoo View Post
iPhoto 8.1 was released on August 18. I just selected all my photos since august and rescanned.

Not sure if that was right, but that's what I did. No need to create a smart album, just click on photos int eh sidebar (that's ALL photos), select the first photo you want, then scroll all the way to recent, hold shift + select the latest then right click and detect missing faces.
ok, thanks for the info.. will give it a go tonight
__________________
24" iMac "Penryn"; 2.8GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, 8800GS
I luuurrvvveee my iPhone 3G 16GB
Search before you post: MRoogle
dalvin200 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 25, 2009, 02:07 PM   #18
parish
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by djgamble View Post
It also identified my new-born baby as being both me and my wife's sister.

On the whole it's accurate, but it makes some pretty funny isolated mistakes
Would be even funnier (for us) if it had been your wife and your brother
__________________
MacBookPro3,1 - 15.4"/2.4GHz/4GB/160GB & 8GB iPod Touch 2G (to be replaced with an iPhone 3GS when Vodaphone UK get them )
parish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 25, 2009, 02:22 PM   #19
powers74
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Tennessee
Send a message via AIM to powers74
recognition

I love the faces feature, it's been working great for me - tho Apple doesn't really explain that iPhoto needs to be warmed up with a few faces first - but after that, it's pretty freakin' good. The places feature is what's a little slow for me, but then again, I am *borrowing* internet.
__________________
Time flies when you're on MacRumors.
powers74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 25, 2009, 04:34 PM   #20
mainstreetmark
macrumors 68000
 
mainstreetmark's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Saint Augustine, FL
iPhoto hasn't successfully identified me once, out of 86 pictures of my face, though once it thought I was a chair in the background, which isn't really flattering either.

Further more, it generally has a difficult time identifying people in general. It's gotten pretty good at working out that there is a face, but not who it is.

So, I quit using it.
__________________
iTunesRegistry.com <-- v3.0 Now Playing
mainstreetmark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 26, 2009, 05:44 AM   #21
xbuddycorex
macrumors 65816
 
xbuddycorex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Surfers Paradise
Send a message via AIM to xbuddycorex Send a message via MSN to xbuddycorex Send a message via Yahoo to xbuddycorex
Quote:
Originally Posted by djgamble View Post
It also identified my new-born baby as being both me and my wife's sister.

On the whole it's accurate, but it makes some pretty funny isolated mistakes
Well if it identified your baby as being both you and your wife technically be correct, unless ... it's technically correct now.
__________________
Half of what I say is meaningless, but I say it so that the other half may reach you.
Search before you post: MRoogle
xbuddycorex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 26, 2009, 05:47 AM   #22
perkevans
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7D11 Safari/528.16)

After the update, I now am having probs with syncing my iPhone. It gives me an error -50. If I turn off photo syncing in iTunes it syncs fine. Also in iTunes under the photos tab I am now forced to try and sync my whole iPhoto library or nothing the option to select albums is grayed out.
perkevans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 26, 2009, 04:01 PM   #23
BklynIslesFan
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Faces shortcoming in iPhoto

Note: am using iPhoto with the 8.1 update; have not downloaded 8.1.1 yet.
One Faces shortcoming is that it only seems to recognize human faces. Would be great if it could identify different cat faces as well. I tried it on pictures of my two cats (they are quite different in appearance) and it didn't work at all.
BklynIslesFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 26, 2009, 07:36 PM   #24
SimonTheSoundMa
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Birmingham, UK
Quote:
Originally Posted by BklynIslesFan View Post
Note: am using iPhoto with the 8.1 update; have not downloaded 8.1.1 yet.
One Faces shortcoming is that it only seems to recognize human faces. Would be great if it could identify different cat faces as well. I tried it on pictures of my two cats (they are quite different in appearance) and it didn't work at all.
Fury animals is hard for AI face recognition engines to detect which animal is which.

I've never had a problem with iPhoto face recognition. After a while training it, it find the correct faces most of the time. I once had a characture made of me, iPhoto recognised it was me.
SimonTheSoundMa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 26, 2009, 08:58 PM   #25
darrens
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Quote:
Originally Posted by SimonTheSoundMa View Post
Fury animals is hard for AI face recognition engines to detect which animal is which.
iPhoto Faces only uses faces it detects itself for recognition - not faces that you add as "missing faces". If Faces didn't find the face and you add a missing face, it is not considered for training.

Unless Faces found a cat face, you have no way of training Faces to find the cats anyway.
darrens is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Mac Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors' Page 2 News Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:07 AM.

Mac News | Mac Rumors | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2002-2010, MacRumors.com, LLC