PowerBooks and iMacs

MacRumors · Jul 25, 2003, 01:28 AM

MacOSRumors posts an update claiming that the future Powerbooks will have backlit keyboards throughout the entire line.

iMacs are also supposed to get mild case revisions -- slightly smaller and lighter:

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Whether the shell would actually be made of metal, or would simply be silver-backed plastics similar to previous PowerMac G4 enclosures, is not yet clear; it is definite that the changes are coming, however

NNO-Stephen · Jul 25, 2003, 01:28 AM

the actual MOSR quote about the PowerBooks is here:

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one notable tidbit we've been able to dig up is this: all three models are expected to sport Apple's fiber-optic backlit keyboard/dynamic screen brightness adjustment system. The 12-inch model may also be getting thinner -- if not in the very next revision, by the time the next update rolls around we should see 12-inch Powerbook G4s around an inch thick....or less.

wether or not it's true, it's still quite interesting, and I'd love it to be true... but meh, we'll see.

Spart · Jul 25, 2003, 01:54 AM

Fiber optic?

I could have sworn the lighting method was something else, though I could be wrong. Then again, expecting MOSR to check their facts before posting is a little too much. If you're going to make up crap, at least make sure the stuff you say can't be disproved with confirmed, non-rumor info in the public domain.

NNO-Stephen · Jul 25, 2003, 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by Spart
Fiber optic?

I could have sworn the lighting method was something else, though I could be wrong. Then again, expecting MOSR to check their facts before posting is a little too much. If you're going to make up crap, at least make sure the stuff you say can't be disproved with confirmed, non-rumor info in the public domain.

it is fiber optic. I remember the keynote vividly on that portion. was such a cool feature. man. but yeah, it is fiber optic. and ambient light sensors control that and the brightness of the display.

danielgrenell · Jul 25, 2003, 02:13 AM

they are not going to change the color of the imac, the imac is a consumer product, consumer products are white, professional products are silver/grey

Omek · Jul 25, 2003, 03:23 AM

MMMmmm.... backlit keyboards across the entire line. That would be awesome.... Come on Apple release those suckers! Or at least announce them and tell us that Moto is kinda slow so we can at least pre-order them!!!

jbomber · Jul 25, 2003, 04:03 AM

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Originally posted by Omek
MMMmmm.... backlit keyboards across the entire line. That would be awesome.... Come on Apple release those suckers! Or at least announce them and tell us that Moto is kinda slow so we can at least pre-order them!!!

I wish they would too, but they'll probably wait til it's go time before mentioning one word about new books. gotta sell off that surplus somehow....

panphage · Jul 25, 2003, 05:46 AM

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Originally posted by jbomber
I wish they would too, but they'll probably wait til it's go time before mentioning one word about new books. gotta sell off that surplus somehow....

What surplus? Apple is legendary for keeping a low, low inventory. It's one of the (few) things investors like about Apple. The tibook is now 8-9 months old w/o change. They've had plenty of time to burn inventory. They're waiting for the 7447s from Moto and I'll bet they've got them. 1.3 ghz 7447 w 512k L2 and no L3. We'll see if my "source" is good.

SubGothius · Jul 25, 2003, 09:43 AM

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As posted by MacOSRumors.com:
Whether the shell would actually be made of metal, or would simply be silver-backed plastics similar to previous PowerMac G4 enclosures, is not yet clear; it is definite that the changes are coming, however

I think an iMac chromed on the inside (same as it's currently painted white on the inside) of the matte-finish clear plastic shell could look rather nifty, and the chrome Apple logo on the outside of the shell would seem to "hover" over the chrome plating on the inside. I wouldn't mind seeing the iMac offered in a variety of appearances again -- no more candy colors, too passé by now thx, but how about choosing your iMac in white, black (pics, more pics), or inner-chromed?

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Originally posted by danielgrenell
they are not going to change the color of the imac, the imac is a consumer product, consumer products are white, professional products are silver/grey

...for now, but that could change; e.g., professional products are metal-clad, whereas consumer products would be plastic-clad.

ryan · Jul 25, 2003, 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by danielgrenell
they are not going to change the color of the imac, the imac is a consumer product, consumer products are white, professional products are silver/grey

The '"i" line of Macs used to be blue, the pro G3's used to be green, things change.

Veldek · Jul 25, 2003, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by Omek
Or at least announce them and tell us that Moto is kinda slow so we can at least pre-order them!!!

I don't think there's a need to do this. Unlike the Power Macs the PowerBooks still sell good enough to keep the announcement until they're really available within a short time.

Morpheus · Jul 25, 2003, 10:40 AM

What would be really cool is if they put a light behind the crome apple logo on the imac...then when you turned the lights out the edges of the logo would glow

As for black imacs...looks too much like a dell. Maybe chrome, but even that seems reserved for the powermac/book lineup

visor · Jul 25, 2003, 11:30 AM

on a 12" pb would be cool.

I'd even consider to trade my ibook for a PB then. Right now, the extra value is to little, but since I like working darker environments, it would be a major benefit.

phampton81 · Jul 25, 2003, 12:14 PM

These guys are great, they will never cease to amuse me.

"One thing we can say for sure is that the etire product line will see at least minor revisions within the next year"

Now don't be hasty MOSR you wouldn't want to give too solid a rumor we could pin you with.

insidedanshead · Jul 25, 2003, 01:22 PM

macosrumors is a joke.

snofseth · Jul 25, 2003, 01:22 PM

I dont think appple can make the 12" thiner unless they loose the cd drive, they may be able to add the backlit keyboard but not thiner. I think there is not enough room in the computer. The 15 and 17 have much more space so they can be thiner. I think if they removed the cd drive it could be thiner than the 17" but that doesn't seem something that apple would do then you need an exteranal cd drive. I think most of the I apps dont support them well.

NNO-Stephen · Jul 25, 2003, 01:33 PM

yeah, I dont know how Apple could make it thinner unless they went up to a 14.1" screen. (then they could have a higher resolution) so maybe they will go up two inches...

bennetsaysargh · Jul 25, 2003, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by NNO-Stephen
yeah, I dont know how Apple could make it thinner unless they went up to a 14.1" screen. (then they could have a higher resolution) so maybe they will go up two inches...

the powerbooks won't be replacing a 12" with a 14". there would almst be no differenve between them and the 15"

anyway, backlit keyboards should be put into the destop models. pro and consumer.

NNO-Stephen · Jul 25, 2003, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
the powerbooks won't be replacing a 12" with a 14". there would almst be no differenve between them and the 15"

anyway, backlit keyboards should be put into the destop models. pro and consumer.

there would be a difference if it wasn't widescreen and the 15.2 went to the oft rumored 15.4. 1.25 inches between the two and the 15.4 would be widescreen.

QCassidy352 · Jul 25, 2003, 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by visor
on a 12" pb would be cool.

I'd even consider to trade my ibook for a PB then. Right now, the extra value is to little, but since I like working darker environments, it would be a major benefit.

yeah, I feel the same way. Not enough difference b/t the 12" PB and an ibook to justify the extra cost as of now, but if they add some of those cool "pro" features to the 12" PB, that would be a different story.

plinkoman · Jul 25, 2003, 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by NNO-Stephen
there would be a difference if it wasn't widescreen and the 15.2 went to the oft rumored 15.4. 1.25 inches between the two and the 15.4 would be widescreen.

the whole purpose of the 12 was for portability, by making it such an insignifigant amount smaller then the 15, who would buy it

e-coli · Jul 25, 2003, 04:44 PM

I'm betting the iMac hemisphere goes metal because of the heat produced by the faster G4's.

Also, add a (desperately needed) graphics card update, and it's going to need fans or different materials.

If they make the dome smaller, they're going to have to go with portable hard drives like those found in the PowerBooks.

Capt Underpants · 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by QCassidy352
Not enough difference b/t the 12" PB and an ibook to justify the extra cost as of now, but if they add some of those cool "pro" features to the 12" PB, that would be a different story.

Wait? I disagree. I do believe the 12 incher has enough features to justify the extra cost. It is lighter (4.6 compared to 4.9), It has the option for a superdrive. It has a G4 (altivec, etc.), Bluetooth built in, and can be airport extreme ready. That is good enough for me. You can solve the keyboard problem with a worm light (if it comes right down to it). I know it isn't as good, but what the hay.

SeaFox · Jul 25, 2003, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by ryan
The '"i" line of Macs used to be blue, the pro G3's used to be green, things change.

The pro G3's were never green, they were Bondi Blue like the original iMac, hence they are now referrred to as the B&W (Blue and White) G3's.

ph_555_shag · Jul 26, 2003, 10:42 AM

god that black iMac REALY does look Dell like........... I LOVE the white iMacs they havea very clean look, changing to metal would make then look much less apealing to my eye

Jul 25, 2003, 02:13 AM	#5
danielgrenell macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bronx, NY	they are not going to change the color of the imac, the imac is a consumer product, consumer products are white, professional products are silver/grey __________________ i'm in the money

Jul 25, 2003, 11:30 AM	#13
visor macrumors 6502 Join Date: May 2003 Location: in bed	backlit keyboards... on a 12" pb would be cool. I'd even consider to trade my ibook for a PB then. Right now, the extra value is to little, but since I like working darker environments, it would be a major benefit.

Jul 25, 2003, 12:14 PM	#14
phampton81 macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2002	typical MOSR These guys are great, they will never cease to amuse me. "One thing we can say for sure is that the etire product line will see at least minor revisions within the next year" Now don't be hasty MOSR you wouldn't want to give too solid a rumor we could pin you with.

Jul 25, 2003, 01:22 PM	#15
insidedanshead macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002	macosrumors is a joke. __________________ My Life is Design.

Jul 25, 2003, 01:33 PM	#17
NNO-Stephen macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma	yeah, I dont know how Apple could make it thinner unless they went up to a 14.1" screen. (then they could have a higher resolution) so maybe they will go up two inches... __________________ ~Stephen~ My GamerCard

Jul 25, 2003, 01:54 AM	#3
Spart macrumors newbie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Iowa	Fiber optic? I could have sworn the lighting method was something else, though I could be wrong. Then again, expecting MOSR to check their facts before posting is a little too much. If you're going to make up crap, at least make sure the stuff you say can't be disproved with confirmed, non-rumor info in the public domain.

Jul 25, 2003, 03:23 AM	#6
Omek macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2003	MMMmmm.... backlit keyboards across the entire line. That would be awesome.... Come on Apple release those suckers! Or at least announce them and tell us that Moto is kinda slow so we can at least pre-order them!!!

Jul 25, 2003, 10:40 AM	#12
Morpheus macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2003	What would be really cool is if they put a light behind the crome apple logo on the imac...then when you turned the lights out the edges of the logo would glow As for black imacs...looks too much like a dell. Maybe chrome, but even that seems reserved for the powermac/book lineup

Jul 25, 2003, 01:22 PM	#16
snofseth macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2003	I dont think appple can make the 12" thiner unless they loose the cd drive, they may be able to add the backlit keyboard but not thiner. I think there is not enough room in the computer. The 15 and 17 have much more space so they can be thiner. I think if they removed the cd drive it could be thiner than the 17" but that doesn't seem something that apple would do then you need an exteranal cd drive. I think most of the I apps dont support them well.

Jul 25, 2003, 04:44 PM	#22
e-coli macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brooklyn	I'm betting the iMac hemisphere goes metal because of the heat produced by the faster G4's. Also, add a (desperately needed) graphics card update, and it's going to need fans or different materials. If they make the dome smaller, they're going to have to go with portable hard drives like those found in the PowerBooks.

Jul 26, 2003, 10:42 AM	#25
ph_555_shag macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Adelaide Australia	god that black iMac REALY does look Dell like........... I LOVE the white iMacs they havea very clean look, changing to metal would make then look much less apealing to my eye

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